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F1 2022 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
The simple answer is that the current crop of cars since 2015 are the fastest in F1 history. By nature of that fact, a driver is less likely to recover from a mistake than in previous years when the cars were slower. The cars are also much larger and heavier which will translate into more kinetic energy on impact and more pieces of debris to spread around the track.
Ill also note that safety was often an after thought up until Sir Jackie and Niki took initiatives to improve safety in 70’s and 80’s which was then furthered after Senna’s death in the 90’s and early 00’s.
Ill also note that safety was often an after thought up until Sir Jackie and Niki took initiatives to improve safety in 70’s and 80’s which was then furthered after Senna’s death in the 90’s and early 00’s.
Whether we like it or not safety cars do increase the entertainment.
We wouldn't have had that 10 lap shootout at Silverstone that everybody is raving about without it.
The same for Max winning the title, without the safety car he's lost it.
I guess it's swings and roundabouts, but f1 have clearly decided entertainment + safety over everything.
I suppose that's what it comes down to. Liberty Media have taken the decision entertainment and ratings trump purity of racing. They've not hidden that they're chasing the casual race observer.
Pretty much. F1 is business now more than ever - for better and worse.
I think in this situation though they had no choice. Ocon was broken down on the straight, and they're never going to have recovery vehicles on the track with cars going normal speeds ever again.
The risk of another Bianchi situation or putting marshalls at risk just isn't worth it.
Impressive. Wonder where it had lodged.
In one of the Venturis blocking all the airflow.
Considering these are ground effect cars it explains why the car became so crap.
So unlucky. Such a shame it never fell out all race
Remarkable it didn't and remarkable drive to grab those points!
A red flag would have saved his race. Could have knocked that fecker out with a broom handle or something.
This is true. To the detriment of the sport. If it can even be called a sport anymore. When do you draw the line?
When Hamilton starts to win again?
Cars need to be smaller
couldnt they have done that at one of his pit stops?
Don't think they knew what the problem was exactly during the race.
I don't think they'll ever go smaller again because of safety reasons.
Tracks should just be updated to become wider to cope with modern cars and street racing just needs to feck off.
Feels like other than Spa, Silverstone, Monza, and Monaco all modern tracks are already "updated" to tedium.
They are looking to make the cars smaller for the next car revision which should be 2026.
Size isn't much of an issue with safety, it's the weight. They need to make the cars lighter. They're ditching the stupid MGU systems thankfully (who the feck ever thought they would translate to road cars) which will help but there is more to be done.
Haha.
It's not about who wins. It's about sporting integrity. Regardless of individuals it will take F1 a long time to win back credibility after last season.
It is a very bitter pill to swallow for Hamilton fans. I was hoping that Mercedes nails their car this season to give him a good shot at a redemptive season but they have fecked it up.
Would be absolutely awesome if he gets one more season and gets to be the champion again, kind of like Fergie seeing off mancini
Just a thought on Zhou accident and looking where it finished.
If the fuel tank had exploded, in the same way Roman's did, not only would Zhou be dead but also some of crowd.
Scary thought.
If the fuel tank had exploded, in the same way Roman's did, not only would Zhou be dead but also some of crowd.
Scary thought.
Not too sure about the crowd either way, but Zhou would have been charcoal before they got him out. He was stuck in there forever.
Hope they learn the lesson from this one and do everything they can with the design of the barriers to make sure there's no way a car can end up in such a position that the driver can be trapped in there that long.
Credibility among Hamilton fans - sure. Nobody else gives a shit.
It won’t because there’s a lot of people who don’t care about what’s right, as long as their man wins. All they’ll say is “time to move on, only Hamilton fans care etc”. It’s sad when tribal loyalty trumps caring about the integrity of the sport but that’s often the case.
@SirAnderson you should be interested in this
F1 fans who have followed the sport before drive to survive certainly care. The newcomers maybe don't and some will try to simplify it to tribalism, when that is really not the case.
You are likely right as the profile of F1 fans moves away from the classic sports fans to the tribal neanderthals they are trying (and succeeding) to attract.
I have so much on my plate, handbags are sadly not on the menu, but hopefully I'll be able to catch up on the thread. Probably about 40 pages or so since the race!But I see F1 is basically WWE now.
Impressive. Wonder where it had lodged.
I wonder if they knew the floor was damaged why didn't they jack it up and have a quick check - they normally do for other damage. They must have sensors and all sorts to know. Perhaps it could've been removed. Though they did pit very quickly the first time around thinking it was a puncture and maybe thought another pit stop was a bad idea.
Couldn't have been a fun debrief for Yuki
Even worse with batteries these days though they say they are designed to not do that these days.
Hopefully no hybrid engine. Just a v10 bio fuel engine would reduce the weight lot.
Just in case you were looking forward to Austria this weekend.
Sprint race alert.
Sprint race alert.
Son's crying, thanks
Oh good, a crap shorter race. Just what nobody wants.
yeah, seems like the right reaction. feck Sprint qualifying.RB and Ferrari are going to appeal the new TD about flexi floors as their current floor setup will be illegal after the austria GP.
No idea how big an effect it will have on performance in France if their appeal is unsuccessful. But if the TD is upheld we could see increased bouncing in the RB and ferrari cars
No idea how big an effect it will have on performance in France if their appeal is unsuccessful. But if the TD is upheld we could see increased bouncing in the RB and ferrari cars
they don’t need to release a statement about how not racist they are because their actions are so not racist.