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Dean Henderson | Nottingham Forest loan watch
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Someone put " Henderson looks better than any version we've seen from De Gea since 17/18", which I assume was more to do with his shot-stopping abilities and dominance in the box, rather than his ball-playing abilities. I then replied it may have been a mistake by ten Hag to get rid of him. Again, not because of his ball-playing abilities but because it's safe to say that even De Gea's shot-stopping hasn't been great for a while now.
Had Henderson stayed, I'd have said the same thing if Henderson didn't prove to be good enough with the ball at his feet. I do; however, think he's better than De Gea in that regard, and if we weren't adding a keeper, which we obviously haven't done so (still time yet) then I'd have liked to see what Henderson could have done instead.
I didn't call anything a "cult", that was sarcasm responding to what the other guy was saying about people who disagree with him.
I'm firmly in the "they're both shit, get somebody else in" camp, for what it's worth.
No one has any individual clips, or videos, otherwise posters here might actually remember the mistakes. These are from his performance thread.
Here's one where he tried to show up De Gea by charging out.
If you disregard that one goal he conceded, he kept a clean sheet today.
I hope Dean is professional enough to be following John Harrison
He is off his line comically early.
Which might work if he was a man mountain like Schmeichel or Neuer, but he's a tiny little thing.
Which might work if he was a man mountain like Schmeichel or Neuer, but he's a tiny little thing.
Yes that's what I thought when I saw the highlights as he was caught a bit in no man's land.
It seems it was quite a high line by Forest so he had to make a judgement call. Come out and take everything to the cleaners with a clearance or drop back a lot, neither of which he did convincingly.
Henderson has previous of this type of situation already, so if he is following or knows about this aspect of his keeping, he's gonna still have to improve on it because it's not working yet.
To be fair, that approach did work later on for him when Gordon tried to chip him when he was stood tall, but yeah he seems a bit erratic with his decisions to come out (even if it is of course preferable to the De Gea approach of being planted on your line, before anybody chimes in with the comparison again).
There's certainly a trend there. Nothing that cant be worked on in a young keeper, but that's a few one on ones where when you look at it you wonder what he's doing
Over De Gea? Most definitely, Henderson is far more proactive, confident with his feet,better with his feet and sweeps and pushes his defensive line forward. All things that a 'top' club require from there GK all things De Gea isn't.
Weather he is actually good enough? Give him a decent crack and we will soon find out,if not we lose nothing other than not having de gea acting like a lead weight to our defence for a season.
Him benched at United has been a criminal act
. This thread is unbelievable. So many myths and bs at the same time.Henderson got his chance (run of games) and that time showed;
1) how average he is in shot stopping
2) how bad he is in one on one situations
3) how shit he is in positioning
Also that period broke all myths about him. He is NOT commanding keeper, he is NOT good on penalties (Boro game) and he is NOT good passer.
Henderson is exactly where he needs to be. Average gk in average PL team.
Now carry on with this delusion regarding him.
I am going to create a thread about Lingard and rewrite history
" Best amc that this club had"
he made high claims in 3 matches this season more than what DDG did the entire last season.
Henderson got his chance (run of games) and that time showed;
1) how average he is in shot stopping
2) how bad he is in one on one situations
3) how shit he is in positioning
Also that period broke all myths about him. He is NOT commanding keeper, he is NOT good on penalties (Boro game) and he is NOT good passer.
Henderson is exactly where he needs to be. Average gk in average PL team.
Now carry on with this delusion regarding him.
I am going to create a thread about Lingard and rewrite history
" Best amc that this club had"
Not a Top G, but surely better than ddg, facts
And Lingard is not top amc but is surely better amc than Bruno Fernandez.
Yeh. He keeps smacking his doubters face.
Neuer is 6'4, Henderson is 6'2, hardly that much smaller.
Wiki stats dont mean much, he is obviously much smaller, just look at them both in goal. He's probably 6 ft 1 but he has a very small frame and holds himself poorly.
With the way we’re going I would expect our next goalkeeper to be 5’5”.
Yeah. At a club that's currently nine places above us
All the bad things
And Dutch.
I always remember Costel Pantillimon at City. Stood at 6”7 or so, whenever he dived he suddenly became 4”10
I think hes a better keeper than De Gea. I also think hes pretty mediocre and like de gea would need to be upgraded asap. He also comes off as a dickhead so not pushed in the slightest to lose him.
We could compare de gea to any keeper in the league and he'll look second best. Doesn't mean i'm going to pine after Dean fecking Henderson
We could compare de gea to any keeper in the league and he'll look second best. Doesn't mean i'm going to pine after Dean fecking Henderson
Honestly, when I’m in the situation of trying to shoot like that in one v one situation, I would rather my goalkeeper not rushing out but stay deep so I can have more space to aim my shot.
It's a pretty weak fail comp. Even from the 'good' video, it was pretty clear he was launching the ball long a lot, so doesn't really add much.
He was caught in no mans land for the goal though.
Overall average to good, which as 90% of people in this thread is saying is still better than De Gea.
This is true. DeGea is bad… really bad
Are we going to analyze every goal he concedes from now on?
still has more touches than DDG and Mctommy combined.
still has more touches than DDG and Mctommy combined.
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Henderson reminds me of Joe Hart. Good at some things, a bit flappy, a bit error-prone, thinking he's better than he really is.
What has your keeper got to do with it if you are the one shooting?
Yep, he has the right attitude for a top keeper but none of the ability.
Flappy at crosses and shit with his feet. Hoofs the ball like a young Chris Smalling.
Im not a keeper expert to answer what's the right thing to do or what's the wrong thing to do but I can share my opinion based on what I experienced about which situation I would rather facing if the goalkeeper is my opponent. If I want to have better chance to score, I don't want the opposition keeper to close the gaps/space. If the keeper stays deep means the keeper allows me to have more time and space to think, which makes it easier of me to aim my shot. This happened many times to me.
We should recall him if it is even possible.
I understand that but your keeper is at the other end of the pitch defending your goal!