It's more mechanical grip than downforce. Ferrari + red bull have the most amount of downforce, but the rear ends of Mclaren and Mercedes are excellent. They're excelling in the tight/twisty tracks like Monaco/Budapest where it's more about acceleration and putting the power down out of corners.
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Dutch GP FP1 & 2 Timesheets
Dutch GP Practice One Timesheet
Dutch GP Practice Two Timesheet
Times don't tell the whole story, Max had problems in FP1 his gearbox lasted 10 mins and then struggled in FP2, both Merc's looking good.
Both Ferrari's will be looking to take advantage if Red Bull cant get it together, but I expect them to in FP3
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) George Russell | Mercedes | 1:13.416 |
| 2) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.240 |
| 3) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.390 |
| 4) Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.474 |
| 5) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +0.622 |
| 6) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | +0.672 |
| 7) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +0.961 |
| 8) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +1.178 |
| 9) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +1.508 |
| 10) Alex Albon | Williams | +1.608 |
| 11) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +1.708 |
| 12) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +1.802 |
| 13) Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +1.950 |
| 14) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +2.019 |
| 15) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +2.045 |
| 16) Zhou Guanyu | Alfa Romeo | +2.079 |
| 17) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +2.175 |
| 18) Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | +2.240 |
| 19) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +2.259 |
| 20) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +2.667 |
Dutch GP Practice Two Timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 1) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 1:12.345 |
| 2) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | +0.004 |
| 3) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | +0.072 |
| 4) Lando Norris | McLaren | +0.103 |
| 5) George Russell | Mercedes | +0.310 |
| 6) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | +0.401 |
| 7) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | +0.503 |
| 8) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | +0.697 |
| 9) Esteban Ocon | Alpine | +0.960 |
| 10) Daniel Ricciardo | McLaren | +1.017 |
| 11) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | +1.074 |
| 12) Sergio Perez | Red Bull | +1.148 |
| 13) Mick Schumacher | Haas | +1.259 |
| 14) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | +1.266 |
| 15) Zhou Guanyu | Alfa Romeo | +1.279 |
| 16) Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | +1.321 |
| 17) Alex Albon | Williams | +1.492 |
| 18) Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | +1.822 |
| 19) Kevin Magnussen | Haas | +1.937 |
| 20) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | +2.452 |
Times don't tell the whole story, Max had problems in FP1 his gearbox lasted 10 mins and then struggled in FP2, both Merc's looking good.
Both Ferrari's will be looking to take advantage if Red Bull cant get it together, but I expect them to in FP3
The whole Piastri think is not good for the sport.
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Just as I thought Max in FP3 is massively faster than anything in FP1 or 2.
Its looks so close going into qualifying. This could be another one like Hungary where Russell could grab pole over Ferrari and RB
track is improving, Max might not get all his own way here.
Russell does seem to be handling the Merc better than Lewis.
Ferrari looking good.
Russell does seem to be handling the Merc better than Lewis.
Ferrari looking good.
Alpine brought this by themself by extended Ocon multiyears and Alonso by a year basis. Should have signed Alonso and Piastri multiyears in the first place.
Yeah they said yesterday their setup was shite and they'd be working hard to improve for today. They did improve but it still doesn't look like a perfect setup. Really missing the data from FP1 here.
Vettel's form hasn't really been great this year, he is not far from retirement anyway. Shit car doesn't help either.
Lucky boy Sainz.
OUT IN Q1
16) Valtteri Bottas, Alfa Romeo
17) Kevin Magnussen, Haas
18) Daniel Ricciardo, McLaren
19) Sebastian Vettel, Aston Martin
20) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
16) Valtteri Bottas, Alfa Romeo
17) Kevin Magnussen, Haas
18) Daniel Ricciardo, McLaren
19) Sebastian Vettel, Aston Martin
20) Nicholas Latifi, Williams
Q2 Red Flagged because of fecking idiot Max fans and there fecking stupid flares !!
FFS just switched on thought it was at 3!
The Dutch fans are the best I’ve met but these fecking flares 
Pigeons causing headaches
Pigeons on the apex of one corner, could be nasty if one was hit.
Good !! Flares are now banned.
You havent missed much.
100% they should have made the tough call and got rid of either Alonso or Ocon, but they couldn't do that and wanted to keep Piastri benched.
Not surprised he decided to take his own future into his hands. He should have been in f1 last year but they couldn't find him a seat.
Twats. Seriously what is the point
I do like this track, one of my favourites
I dont see the point of them , If I had paid good money and was stood behind a twat who had let one off, he would not be liking my reaction.
Watched the lap yesterday from driver's perspective, it looks really hard for drivers.
WOW Max on used , Lewis on new.
Max is on fire so far.
Max is on fire so far.
It is, I think an excellent driving track and the banked corner, is brillant.
Fun lap to drive, not so great to watch in terms of a race unfortunately.
Its not the worst for racing.
remind me that tomorrow please!
Feels like Max isn’t even having to try.
OUT IN Q2
11) Pierre Gasly, AlphaTauri
12) Esteban Ocon, Alpine
13) Fernando Alonso, Alpine
14) Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo
15) Alex Albon, Williams
11) Pierre Gasly, AlphaTauri
12) Esteban Ocon, Alpine
13) Fernando Alonso, Alpine
14) Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo
15) Alex Albon, Williams
Zhou has outqualified Bottas a few times this season.
Q3 Max out first, not something he normally does.
Looking to set the bench mark early and high.
Looking to set the bench mark early and high.
Max sets 1.10.515 for his first lap.
Max even can afford a slight mistake in sector 1
Lewis was close and Leclerc with a cracking lap.
Max made a mistake in is lap, he will not do it again.
Max made a mistake in is lap, he will not do it again.
Oh man, can’t wait to see how Ferrari feck things up for Charles tomorrow now.
Pigeons to shit on their new tires and mess the heating or something like that?
Nah, Ferrari don't need outside help for that. Something like that would just be... icing on the cake.
More Flares, how fecking thick are some of the Dutch fans