Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Sorry its a poorly put question.
What I mean is even if Ukraine take back occupied territory will Russia just keep rearming and keep coming back?
Is the whole war likely to last years

No, I don't think it will last years and years.

I don't think they can come back from a defeat as severe as seems to be happening.

Putin must be shitting himself right about now.
 
Hard to beat Desert Storm in that regard. The used technology hasn't advanced since those days

Thanks for the clarification. It also comes as a good lesson to refrain from posting things I generally know little about. :D
 
Not getting the coverage given the effective media blackout in the UK but you would imagine/hope that the Foreign Office/MoD are keeping a close eye given how apparently decisive this counter-offensive has been.
 
Saying they wouldn't retaliate with nukes doesn't mean they won't go hot war with Russia. Nuclear escalation is what they have made clear they don't want, nobody wants. Fortunately NATO doesn't need nukes to neutralise Russia.

I wonder how many Americans would support direct military intervention consider how many Americans now have the "America first" motto.
 
I thought the orcs had digged in. This is equal parts very impressive advancement and total disorder from the Russians.

Multiple reports that Lyman, further east is taken too, or at least soon will be. Appears to a Russian collapse of the whole area.
 
I seriously think with such a force they can move into west Russia, it will be completely undefended. They won't cause they get nuked, but still conventionally it would be possible within the logistical limits of course.
 
This says Donetsk Airport is occupied... what?

Yeah, double checked myself on google maps how come that's a thing.
Donetsk airport is NW from Donetsk, and not far from Pisky town, which was heavily contested, so not far from frontline in the area. If true, ukrainians pushed close to Donetsk city limits on that frontline.
 
I seriously think with such a force they can move into west Russia, it will be completely undefended. They won't cause they get nuked, but still conventionally it would be possible within the logistical limits of course.
It probably won’t be a smart move as this will allow Putin to call for a global mobilization, which will significantly increase the amount of man power (albeit, most likely, extremely ill-equipped).

Although I do wonder at what point Putin will admit his defeat and stop the offensive, considering that losing Crimea and accepting it would most likely be a rare thing that would be able to overthrow him. Losing Donetsk and Luhansk will cost him dearly but I’m not going to underestimate the power of his propaganda again, he may withstand this (although I’d still hope that he wouldn’t, after betting so much on this invasion to literally lose and end up in a worse position that he had started off…).
 
Yeah, double checked myself on google maps how come that's a thing.
Donetsk airport is NW from Donetsk, and not far from Pisky town, which was heavily contested, so not far from frontline in the area. If true, ukrainians pushed close to Donetsk city limits on that frontline.
That'd mean they are breaking through 2014 front lines which would be massive.
 
It probably won’t be a smart move as this will allow Putin to call for a global mobilization, which will significantly increase the amount of man power (albeit, most likely, extremely ill-equipped).

Although I do wonder at what point Putin will admit his defeat and stop the offensive, considering that losing Crimea and accepting it would most likely be a rare thing that would be able to overthrow him. Losing Donetsk and Luhansk will cost him dearly but I’m not going to underestimate the power of his propaganda again, he may withstand this (although I’d still hope that he wouldn’t, after betting so much on this invasion to literally lose and end up in a worse position that he had started off…).
I agree it will not be the correct move since it will also erode int support for Ukraine, some countries will be very quick to condemn it, politically it will make no sense. It was purely as a thought exercise whether will be possible with the current state of both sides.
 
Not getting the coverage given the effective media blackout in the UK but you would imagine/hope that the Foreign Office/MoD are keeping a close eye given how apparently decisive this counter-offensive has been.
They are the one part of the UK government still doing public-facing business as usual in terms of briefing the media and public. Gives you an idea of what the singular key issue of the day remains.
 
Will be interesting to see how much armor and other equipment the Russians have left behind. The fact that the only way out of the pocket was a cross the Oskil river means they might have had to leave a shit ton behind.
 
That'd mean they are breaking through 2014 front lines which would be massive.

Not sure how massive it is, as I don't think airport has been operational since 2014-15 battles, and Donetsk should (key word here) be fortified. Symbolic victory if anything, most likely chance opportunity due to RF moving reserves north to help.
 
One wonders whether the recent media coverage of the energy crisis prompted Ukraine to speed up its operations before they lose public support in the winter?
 
Not sure how massive it is, as I don't think airport has been operational since 2014-15 battles, and Donetsk should (key word here) be fortified. Symbolic victory if anything, most likely chance opportunity due to RF moving reserves north to help.
Not operational for civilian traffic but it still an airport it has military uses. Unless the runways have been destroyed beyond repair
 
Not operational for civilian traffic but it still an airport it has military uses. Unless the runways have been destroyed beyond repair
I don’t think that it’s in any way operational
 
One wonders whether the recent media coverage of the energy crisis prompted Ukraine to speed up its operations before they lose public support in the winter?

It's definitely been an objective for Ukraine to regain lost land before the winter. They know when winter hits there will be more talk in the european population whether it's worth it with declining living standards.
 
What's the exact translation?
In this situation, the best picture of the future is the overall picture of the past. Our common past, recent. When everyone is together, when Victory Day, when there is a parade, when both Russian and Ukrainian are taught. When both in kokoshniks, wonderful songs are sung both in one language and in another.
All together, everyone is happy, everyone is calm and proud that we are together. It was an excellent picture. I am sure, in a historical perspective, no other option is possible.

 
In this situation, the best picture of the future is the overall picture of the past. Our common past, recent. When everyone is together, when Victory Day, when there is a parade, when both Russian and Ukrainian are taught. When both in kokoshniks, wonderful songs are sung both in one language and in another.
All together, everyone is happy, everyone is calm and proud that we are together. It was an excellent picture. I am sure, in a historical perspective, no other option is possible.


What complete nonsense. :lol:
 
That's a parody but Girkin is a real person. Former GRU I believe.

Yes but everything we've seen online has been coming from the parody account. Unless Girkin has a real social media account or telegram channel i don't know about.
 
Masterclass - "Learn the art of gaslighting directly from Vladimir Putin"

 
Yes but everything we've seen online has been coming from the parody account. Unless Girkin has a real social media account or telegram channel i don't know about.
I think the real Girkin is often quoted, but where the quotes come from specifically, I don't know either.
 
I thought the Girkin page on Twitter was a parody account ?
Don’t know if the Twitter page is a parody account and controlled by someone else than Girkin, but the lad has his official Telegram channel with over 500k followers and since the beginning of war he was extremely critical of Russia’s incompetence and general idiocy in the Russian army. Obviously that’s not because he loves Ukrainians and their freedom, but he knows his shit and never held back in pointing out bad decisions by Russian commanders.
 
Don’t know if the Twitter page is a parody account and controlled by someone else than Girkin, but the lad has his official Telegram channel with over 500k followers and since the beginning of war he was extremely critical of Russia’s incompetence and general idiocy in the Russian army. Obviously that’s not because he loves Ukrainians and their freedom, but he knows his shit and never held back in pointing out bad decisions by Russian commanders.

Good to know. I don't mess with Telegram, but suspected he may have a significant voice there.
 
Yes but everything we've seen online has been coming from the parody account. Unless Girkin has a real social media account or telegram channel i don't know about.
He is active on Telegram and gave some interviews.