Masi is a legend for not letting the championship end like this last season. We could've used his leadership today.
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So Max can win it all in the next race
Same podium as last week
Yes, rules are rules, fine.
But last year Hamilton fans were disgusted with the ending. Max fans weren't.
This time around, without a title on the line, it seems everyone wanted the race to have a finish.
That suggests to me if roles were reversed last year, Lewis fans would have loved the ending.
Just my observation of course
Max will retire as the GOAT.
With a crane being brought out onto the track that should have been red flagged but of course that would not have given Max a definite win. They only finish a race under the safety car when max is in the lead.
More people liked last year's ending. No one, or only a handful of boring people, liked this one.
Worth noting that there would have been less complaints last year if they’d red flagged it, as Hamilton would probably still have won then in a fair fight.
Only if it favours your driver...
I’m starting to think Latifi won’t win the championship.
Another total snoozefest.
Oh well, maybe something will happen next season.
Oh well, maybe something will happen next season.
Yup
I'm not a Hamilton fan and it was clearly bullshit. Obviously Hamilton fans would have taken it, much like when United benefit from a dodgy penalty I'm not going to make an issue if it, but it doesn't make it right and the two reactions are not even comparable. People are just saying it was boring and maybe they should change the rules. What happened last year was a piss-take from a nuetral's perspective.
I think after he wins the WDC at singapore he shouldnt race again this season. Just play no9 for utd and score 50 goals before the start of next season. Who needs haaland? We have supermax the greatest GOAT ever blud. After all he is the GOAT of all time of every sport, in every universe, of every dimension, every to be crrated or yet to be created.
He would still get slagged off in the utd player performance forum though...
People probably said the same about Vettel.
Yep.
My suggestion is that the rules are changed so that any safety car in the last 5 laps = red flag, all cars in the pitlane and then a standing start when they are ready. At least then it gives everyone some clarity.
Today was poor from both a safety and a spectacle with regard to the safety car. Yet again it was called for far too late. Everyone could see a safety car was needed but it must have took 30 seconds to press the button. Someone is going to get hurt and it's not the first time this year it's been very slow. Are they working out when to press it so as not to disrupt the leader? It must have taken 2 laps for the leader and safety car to find each other. I know Max pitted, as did others in the lead group, but again without any bunching up you've got cars racing round with a digger out on track.
Another race I'm totally convinced confirms Russell is secretly just an AI driver, he does nothing of note, flies under the radar and collects his good result. 7 podium finishes now yet outside of his pole in Hungary he's done nothing spectacular.
At no point has anyone gone "oh shit here comes Russell!", he's even boring in the wheel to wheel stuff as he just picks his battles. If Merc ever give him a race winning car he's going to be hard to beat over a season, he's so consistently boring.
At no point has anyone gone "oh shit here comes Russell!", he's even boring in the wheel to wheel stuff as he just picks his battles. If Merc ever give him a race winning car he's going to be hard to beat over a season, he's so consistently boring.
Yes as they can all change tyres under a red flag.
Mr Consistent. Very rarely sparkles, very rarely makes a mistake.
Just to be clear, I have absolutely no problem with this ending. It ensures that the best driver of the day won, benefiting from the 20 second gap he had made. I’d always prefer that outcome over a manufactured one lap shootout. However, you do understand that the difference today was that, had they restarted, it would have, at least, been a fair fight?
Had situations been reversed last year, I’d have been happy enough for the FIA to do the right thing and reverse the result. Sporting integrity should always trump any personal preference for one of the participants.
Safety car finishes and winners before today:
Bahrain 2020: Lewis Hamilton
Bahrain 2019: Lewis Hamilton
China 2015: Lewis Hamilton
Canada 2014: Daniel Ricciardo
Brazil 2012: Jenson Button
Monaco 2010: Mark Webber
Italy 2009: Rubens Barrichello
Australia 2009: Jenson Button
Canada 1999: Mika Häkkinen
But yeah, they only finish a race under the safety car when Max is leading
Exactly, which is why red flagging is understandable at least, as it would have allowed all drivers to pick the right tyres for the shootout, even if it's still manufactured.
Jenson Button regen (although Button was more likeable).
I was going to say that yes, it's the best description possible.
you've missed Spa from last year out of that list.Safety car finishes and winners before today:
Bahrain 2020: Lewis Hamilton
Bahrain 2019: Lewis Hamilton
China 2015: Lewis Hamilton
Canada 2014: Daniel Ricciardo
Brazil 2012: Jenson Button
Monaco 2010: Mark Webber
Italy 2009: Rubens Barrichello
Australia 2009: Jenson Button
Canada 1999: Mika Häkkinen
But yeah, they only finish a race under the safety car when Max is leading
Not a safety car finish. And he got half points in a race he probably would've won from pole.
Or do you think F1 orchestrated these conditions so Max didn't have to race that day?!
He got half points for a race that should have been cancelled.Not a safety car finish. And he got half points in a race he probably would've won from pole.
Or do you think F1 orchestrated these conditions so Max didn't have to race that day?!
It was a farce behind the safety car.
I'm quite sure that the red car we can see in that picture is a safety car.Not a safety car finish. And he got half points in a race he probably would've won from pole.
Or do you think F1 orchestrated these conditions so Max didn't have to race that day?!
Either way the race should never have taken place and The last race as per the rules should have finished under a safety car. Either one of those things happening and he wouldn't have won the title.
I was also sure that after what happened to Jules Bianchi if a crane needed to be brought onto the track the race was supposed to be red flagged.
That is a really good point.
absolutely this, man took one for the team
Yes they did the minimum distance they had to do not to give refunds to the crowd ... It should never have started
As for max a great drive today ... And he will win his first non human error world championship with ease
Hard to imagine that red bull and max not being right at the front again next year ... Who knows hopefully Ferrari cut the mistakes and merc make a car they can understand and we get a more competitive season next year
Its his first proper WDC that isnt tantied and is fully deserved. Its a huge shame we didnt get to see the psychological effects of a drawn out wdc race between max and leclerc. The pair of them underb extreme pressure would have been a interesting watch.
Lets hope mercedea can give lewis a title challeging car next year. There isnt anyone else other than lewis who can go toe to toe with max and slug it out.
In hindsight I wish Ferrari had gone for soft tyres in leclerc first pit. Would have been interesting at least. Though I still think max would have won. The guy is unstoppable and demoralising.
I feel for Sainz the most. I think he would have caught Russell.
Of course, the key problem last year was that the rules weren't followed with regards to letting lapped cars either all stay in place or let them all come through - which is clear inconsistency and was very hard to justify. (Except with the get-out clause 'the race director can ultimately do whatever they want'.) It's not about the use of the SC or a red flag.
Just watched the replay on C4.
Yet again, the race director ruins a race. FFS!
Yet again, the race director ruins a race. FFS!
Caught the highlights as I was out, Verstappen in Red Bull in a league of their own yet again. The title in Japan looks on the cards here.
The rules on safety car were applied correct here, but you could argue the communication to the lapped runners could have been better to have speeded up the process. Even the Marshall element took time but understandable given the gaps across a race like Monza. The FIA need to look at this to see how they can improve the speed of the decision making. Even with a final lap restart it wouldn't have made any difference as the performance of that Red Bull car was ridiculous in a straight line with increased levels of downforce.
Mega drive from De Vries though, they'd be foolish to not put him instead of Latifi in that car next year.
The rules on safety car were applied correct here, but you could argue the communication to the lapped runners could have been better to have speeded up the process. Even the Marshall element took time but understandable given the gaps across a race like Monza. The FIA need to look at this to see how they can improve the speed of the decision making. Even with a final lap restart it wouldn't have made any difference as the performance of that Red Bull car was ridiculous in a straight line with increased levels of downforce.
Mega drive from De Vries though, they'd be foolish to not put him instead of Latifi in that car next year.