It is gas that where already in the pipes that is leaking out. According to the Danish Energy department they expect the pipes to be empty by Sunday.
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I read somewhere it was to keep it from filling with sea water, but that may be wrong.
Pleasantly surprising that Mitch McConnell is pro-Ukraine, so even if the Democrats lose Congress, aid will continue.
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"A report drawn up by an international working group on sanctions concluded Russia should now be declared a “state sponsor of terrorism” and had reached the legal definition of a terrorist state under US and Canadian law. The head of the Office of the Ukrainian Presidency, Andriy Yermak, called for sweeping American and European sanctions in light of the report, after Ukraine accused Russia of sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...08ef7e8107c54c#block-6334fc128f08ef7e8107c54c
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...08ef7e8107c54c#block-6334fc128f08ef7e8107c54c
Zeihan says if this happens it means "anyone doing any business with Russia would be subject to sanctions", so a lot is at stake. The West has been reluctant to remove Russia from markets entirely, they have a lot of resources the world needs, especially for electric engines for cars.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Environmental movement as countries are forced to burn coal and resume nuclear, and expand it, and if the materials needed for electric engines become prohibitively expensive. We badly need better tech in this area.
What the actual fek. I've heard it all now.
Yes, Ukraine should just let them mobilize and attack them, here you go Russians, do your thing.
a 4th leak is now reported by Sweden.
This is so weird.
Surely the pipeline is an asset for Russia, if things get bad in Europe they might be forced to buy Russian energy. If it's there it can tempt people, if energy prices go up in the winter dissenting voices will call for using the pipeline, now that won't happen.
I know Russia is burning gas they can't sell, they're out of storage, and if they don't vent or burn the gas I believe the pressure will destroy the pipe and the well, requiring redrilling.
"As Europe's energy costs skyrocket, Russia is burning off large amounts of natural gas, according to analysis shared with BBC News.
They say the plant, near the border with Finland, is burning an estimated $10m (£8.4m) worth of gas every day.
Experts say the gas would previously have been exported to Germany.
Germany's ambassador to the UK told BBC News that Russia was burning the gas because "they couldn't sell it elsewhere"."
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62652133
Will this leak mean no more burning? Did they decide to turn it into a problem for Europe?
Surely the pipeline is an asset for Russia, if things get bad in Europe they might be forced to buy Russian energy. If it's there it can tempt people, if energy prices go up in the winter dissenting voices will call for using the pipeline, now that won't happen.
I know Russia is burning gas they can't sell, they're out of storage, and if they don't vent or burn the gas I believe the pressure will destroy the pipe and the well, requiring redrilling.
"As Europe's energy costs skyrocket, Russia is burning off large amounts of natural gas, according to analysis shared with BBC News.
They say the plant, near the border with Finland, is burning an estimated $10m (£8.4m) worth of gas every day.
Experts say the gas would previously have been exported to Germany.
Germany's ambassador to the UK told BBC News that Russia was burning the gas because "they couldn't sell it elsewhere"."
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62652133
Will this leak mean no more burning? Did they decide to turn it into a problem for Europe?
No, I read that as well - something to do with volume vs pressure.
It might also be Putin thinking he don't want any of his own people thinking "let's get rid of Putin and start selling gas again".
Good.
I am already anticipating that the moment there is a truce, Germany will start the "we now need to rehabilitate Russia into global society" BS discourse.
Well yes of course there will be, should be and arguably already has to be. The world needs to give Russia a perspective how to be integrated again, similar to like Germany was after WW2. After WW1 the opposite happened and then WW2 happened...
Obviously that has to require Russia to take responsibility for the atrocities and damage done, but we should make this offer to prevent them from becoming the next North Korea, for the sake of humanity. A heavily sanctioned fascist regime which hates the rest of the world and sits on a huge amount of nuclear weapons isn't what I want to see in the future.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63072113
Russia to formally annex four more areas of Ukraine.
Russia to formally annex four more areas of Ukraine.
Overall I agree but we should lay out our hard requirements to them first for any talks about reintegration to be a possibility. Make it clear that full denuclearization, desovietization, imperialist derusization, and war reparations are pre-requisites for the support we decide to provide to any Russian opposition if they want to work with the west again. Then and only then can we talk about it seriously…
I would suspect the pipes can be fixed relatively "easily" from a costs perspective at least, given the value of the product.
Yes, however after ww2 Germany capitulated and was occupied so all the reintegration was closely monitored for decades. Since here this would be impossible, it shouldn't really be a given that they should be easily reintegrate, especially with the same leadership. It would be the equivalent of Hitler making peace with the west, and reaching a standstill with the USSR , then resuming eventually trade with the rest of the world.
Fascist regimes need to be completely eradicated for any recovery to begin.
Land grabbing in 2022. The world cannot allow this shit stand.
Seeing as @stefan92 mentioned the pre-required Russian's admittance of it's crimes against Ukraine, it's pretty obvious that that scenario simply doesn't happen with the same leadership still in place, be it Putin himself of his direct successor with the same views on the matter. The reintegration should happen (both for Russia and the rest of the world's sakes) but only after the regime change and the full admittance of Russia's responsibility for everything that happened (and the steps taken to compensate Ukraine for the damage done). If Putin is still alive in this hypothetical scenario, the admittance of those crimes would be immediately followed by him being sent straight to Hague.
Errrr it happened as recently as 2008 in Kosovo with support from the West.
You'll have to explain that one
Washington recognized Israeli annexation of the Golan Heights less than four years ago.
Actually @harms understood what I meant. I don't want to see the current fascist regime stay in power and therefore the world should give the Russians some motivation to get rid of it.
That's a fair point
Fair point. Israel-Palestine is a basket case of a situation and the West are a disgrace everyday over it.
In this case it's Israel-Syria, not strictly a Palestinian issue. But it will surely be pointed to by Moscow as an example of Western hypocrisy.
This is a pipe dream though, a leader even if its not Putin that gives back annexed territories . Its not happening.
I just remembered. Thanks
I wouldn't be so sure about it, but I admit that currently it's unlikely. Nonetheless these (@Rajma did a good job defining it further) are necessary requirements. If Russia doesn't accept these they will stay the pariah of the World and that's it.
On the bright side, if Putin falls, chances are Russia will get a brand new government and constitution which will negate anything currently in place.
I'd imagine that any leader that follows Putin would be extremely interested in redoing the damage that Putin did to Russia and it's economy (even leaving aside stuff like international reputation etc.). And giving back annexed territories (or a claim on them — it's not an unlikely scenario that Ukraine would actually be in control of them at that point) would be one of the key points in any sanction-relief deal.
It's not like Russian people dreamt of annexing Kherson or Donetsk for years — in fact, even a lot of those who support the war are/were very skeptical about it due to the simple question of money. Hence why you won't see any vote in Russia itself that would ask people the question of "do you want those territories to become a part of Russia?".