Every club should put their local fans first. That shouldn't even be a controversy.
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Apparently Des Lynam is Irish. I had no idea! 
Bit confused by all the bankers. Are they advising for a fee, or are they investors? I hope it's the former, as if they're investors they will be looking to make money out of the club. I'm still hoping for someone who isn't in it for that. I get someone more competent than the Glazers might be a step forward over time, but can't help wanting more.
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I think with 5bln being paid, Jassim is looking to get some high level advice and opinion?
Could also be that this isnt the whole delegation from Jassim but a combined delegation from other bidders also?
They're advisors and will be paid based on the valuation of the club should they be successful on acquiring.
In what way would they be our first? What’s the miles radius to be regarded as local?
We don’t know. It’s a sad fact that the most popular bid is shrouded in mystery and anything could result. People just see dollar signs.
We don’t even know for certain that Sheikh Jassim is a real person who actually exists.
You’d think with that much on the line he’d want to see it himself. Almost like the money isn’t really his….
Hope so. Thanks @TrebleChamp99
I've always thought this even as someone who doesn't live in the UK. Foreign fans get upset at this but it's not even a controversial take.
Why?
Local fans are likely to have a deeper connection but it's not a given. I'm sure you've met a lot of local fans through the years that don't share the same feelings you have for the club. In that sense it's entirely possible that there are fans outside Manchester that have a deeper connection to the club. At the end of the day it depends on how much the club means to you, and you have no idea the lengths that some fans from other countries would go through to just watch a United game.
The superiority angle you alluded to earlier is a bit troubling to be honest. I hope you could take a moment and reflect on that a bit.
Within the sound of The Bishop Blaize.
Because if it’s left any longer, we’ll have a reservoir of piss flooding the OT pitch within. 2 weeks.
Ramadan begins soon.
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Anyone who's been attending most of their lives would be considered local
Why is there a need for a hierarchal system of importance when it comes to supporting a football club? Many people contribute monetarily to United without attending games (I also think measuring support based solely or mostly on monetary contribution is a shortsighted thing).
Not when you speaking of an entity like Manchester United. Again, a substantial number of the people at OT every weekend aren't "locals".
Clubs make more money from TV deals than they do from matchday revenue, the Premier league could survive in its current form without matchday revenue as it did during covid, but it would collapse without the tv deals, so economically fans who watch on tv are fairly important
You need bankers for deals like this. It doesn't mean this guy will be instructing Ten Hag to revert to a 4-4-2 formation should the deal go through
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They're advisors for a fee. In my opinion I rate the advice of investment bankers very lowly. They want you to close deals which earns them the fee, they're not that interested in whether it's the best deal for you or not. The best use of them is to get them to do leg work (build financial models, slide decks, draft documents) and have your own vision of strategy.
From the point of view of BofA, the reason why there are indeed some senior bankers (head of their TMT practice) on this is because dealings with a royal family such as Qatar's are even more relationship based than normal corporate dealings (which also are but to a lesser degree). So they probably show the royal family all this commitment to stay on their good side and hope that they'll continue to be their preferred bank for future deals.
What's also interesting for me lastly is that I also think this whole situation reflects the different business cultures. Jassim or his dad probably feel that discussing numbers/valuation/terms in person is below them, and that sending a bunch of guys is a representation of their wealth and influence. SJR probably wants to talk about all the numbers and terms himself, to have an accurate sense of what he is buying and for how much.
Oh okay, that's just your opinion. Got it.
EDIT: I thought you wrote the earlier post
Des Lynam used to work on TV. Wonder what he makes of the Lineker debacle?
Of course Lineker is good friends with Woodward, so he’ll know a bit about bankers.
Of course Lineker is good friends with Woodward, so he’ll know a bit about bankers.
Facts. I had you as a 6 in the 0-10 scale of fan importance. You've just been bumped up to an 8.
Can business not be done through intermediaries?
That is one hell of a strong contingent to send! But Big Jim is turning up so clearly that'll swing it...
Apparently Des Lynam is Irish. I had no idea!
Well it is the week of the year where a lot of people try to be that
Just pointing out because when it was reported that SJR was working with JPM and GS on structuring the bid and his financing, it was argued by many that the involvement of bankers was a fatal flaw in the bid in their view.
The I's will be dotted and T's will be crossed whilst during Ramadan.
However, the actual deal within itself they'll want agreed.
Or they are being paid a retainer to churn through the valuations?
I can think of few finer things to be!Well it is the week of the year where a lot of people try to be that
Yep see my formula a few pages back.
Maybe I'm mistaken but I don't think this is correct. The TV deal gives each team £43m. Manchester United made £110m from matchday revenue in 2022.
@Wumminator there are a lot of bellends or casual fans who see a fair few OT games. Can you quantify their worth against some dedicated supporters abroad?
Qatari's coming in hot
Is there some article that says this or is just what you think?
I wonder if other clubs fans feel the need to be so petty as to rank the importance of different fan groups. Is Top Gooner a thing? Can you be best Scouser? Is there a hierarchy of Stockport? I’d be interested to know, but United fans do seem a peculiar breed.
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