Ordinarily but aren’t they far more relaxed on penalties just after a start? Nothing will surprise me at this point.
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Stroll completely choked his chance as per usual.
Restart
Pre crash order
It’s not even about finishing under safety car.
You don’t need a red flag to remove gravel. You don’t need a red flag to remove bits of a front wing.
The safety car is literally designed to enable tracks to be cleared of debris safely.
None of this needed a red flag
everyone that was fine with 2021 asked for this.
Happy for Alonso but fecked off for Alpine. They should get litigious
I suppose by the rules:
If they crossed S1, they do this final lap under safety car in current positions.
If they did not cross S1, then they revert to original positions and then do the lap. But presumably those who didn’t make it back to pits on own accord can’t rejoin.
If race times out then original positions from before restart including those who crashed would be the final position?
If they crossed S1, they do this final lap under safety car in current positions.
If they did not cross S1, then they revert to original positions and then do the lap. But presumably those who didn’t make it back to pits on own accord can’t rejoin.
If race times out then original positions from before restart including those who crashed would be the final position?
Alpine screwed.
So, basically; Alpine lose out on points because of an accident that didn’t officially happen.
Clowns.
Clowns.
I never digested that one. Just end the fecking thing with a safety car.
Alpine will be furious.
Don't know what you got from what I said there but for once I agree with you
Tbf Ocon and Gasly were cretins as well.
Sainz should still get a penalty for that shit driving
Can’t wait for them to get Alpine’s chief on the radio again 
This reminds me of the great times when racers used to run back to the pit to get the T car ahead of their teammates before restarts. Glad we finally have defined working routines for this sort of thing. That used to be a circus.
There will be appeals after the race and they will bring back the results from the lap 56. Pretty sure.
Imagine binning it on the formation lap now.
Bring back Masi.
So looks like the middle option?
Yeah what I mean is, I dont think this had anything to do with Wittich being scared of finishing under a safety car.
He already showed with the first red flag, he's scared of clearing any debris off a track while the cars are on it. Which is mental and will ruin every single race going forward.
Im so confused. I fell alseep with like 15 laps to go, what's going on
Why even bother restarting it, just confirm the order pre restart
Not doubting they’ve gone by the rules, but that rule is shocking.
The crashes happened, the crashed cars are out, but those effected still on track get to keep their place. Makes zero sense logically.
The crashes happened, the crashed cars are out, but those effected still on track get to keep their place. Makes zero sense logically.
Dutch presenters saying lap 57/58 being shown?
We have to wait for 10 more minutes for another shitshow.
They’re wrong
First intelligent thing Ted has said in a while
Have no clue what's going on with the Sainz penalty
Ted talking too much sense.
Sainz. He will basically be last.Farce continues with Sainz penalty.
Maybe they are going back a lap?
Maybe they are going back a lap?
This is hilarious. Sainz is going to have a few tailgaters behind him.
Sainz and Alpine and Alonso and Max are going to absolutely destroy Wittich and the FIA now. Going to be a month of pelters and no racing. Media shitstorm
5 second pen for a lap that didn’t officially happen.
Ted was spot on
Ted was spot on
Don’t think so.
So what's the difference now to the last restart?
Why is Max complaining but not Hamilton? Classic.
Completely deserved pen for Sainz. Terrible mistake at the end of a decent race for him.