Westminster Politics

Depends on your definition of elite I guess, but she is an MP, former long-term high profile government minister and TV personality of sorts.That's pretty elite in terms of profile, reach and influence.

My question was genuine as i read a brief biography that she comes from working class worked in NGOs wnvironments and she went up to the ranks. She became elite because she is in politics? Or is not liked because she is tory? I dont know her at all. Thats why i ask. It might not be liked because is not from the politcal spectrum that you like (not particularly you i mean) but IMO elite is something else
 
My question was genuine as i read a brief biography that she comes from working class worked in NGOs wnvironments and she went up to the ranks. She became elite because she is in politics? Or is not liked because she is tory? I dont know her at all. Thats why i ask. It might not be liked because is not from the politcal spectrum that you like (not particularly you i mean) but IMO elite is something else
I know what you mean. She's fairly dim and has more been a useful idiot to the likes of Johnson, who she was fiercely loyal to.
It's debatable how much influence she had, although she nearly sold off (and probably destroyed) Channel 4, one of the very few TV stations which has consistently criticised the government over its record.
She's certainly not conventional elite, ie Etonian, moneyed background etc...more a Lee Anderson-style working class right winger they can dangle in front of the masses.
 


Can’t afford £1000 rent but I am all of a sudden able to afford it when it is frozen at that. Great solution, why did no one think of it before!
 


Can’t afford £1000 rent but I am all of a sudden able to afford it when it is frozen at that. Great solution, why did no one think of it before!

Won't somebody please think of the landlords. :(
 
don't think about more supply and prioritise density of supply.....just keep subsidising demand!! fecking morons.

But we all know why supply is never taken up as the major priority issue... NIMBY's worrying about foreigners coming into the neighbour and "disturbing the tranquility", and home-owners that are desperate to justify their unsustainable mortages based solely on ludicrous house price increases.
 
What policy?

that's basically my point. If the question was stupid, i sympathise. Obviously no opposition can have policy enacted "overnight' to fix the mess you lot are in. However that is usually the opportunity to pivot the actual policy, which was completely missed as UK labour are playing so "small target" that they are missing every golden opportunity.
 
that's basically my point. If the question was stupid, i sympathise. Obviously no opposition can have policy enacted "overnight' to fix the mess you lot are in. However that is usually the opportunity to pivot the actual policy, which was completely missed as UK labour are playing so "small target" that they are missing every golden opportunity.
I think the problem. Is you need a vision to have a policy. Not only empty electioneering which seems to be Starmers strategy alongside purging any dissenting voices from the party.
 
That anyone can believe that Labour don’t have policy and direction to make things better… is evidence of the right wing press (ie everything bar one or two publications) suggesting as much.

Labour stated policy and targeted doctrine is still left of Blair and Brown. It’s not even close either.
 
That anyone can believe that Labour don’t have policy and direction to make things better… is evidence of the right wing press (ie everything bar one or two publications) suggesting as much.

Labour stated policy and targeted doctrine is still left of Blair and Brown. It’s not even close either.
Just don’t see why voting Labour wouldn’t be an automatic reflex action after having the Tories in power for so long. Why would anyone who is left politically even think twice?

Why could not the left coalesce behind Labour to, at the bare minimum, remove as many Tories as possible?
 
That anyone can believe that Labour don’t have policy and direction to make things better… is evidence of the right wing press (ie everything bar one or two publications) suggesting as much.

Labour stated policy and targeted doctrine is still left of Blair and Brown. It’s not even close either.

I'd say it's more to do with the fact that Labour barely talk about their (significant) policies tbh, and trying to get Starmer to state anything clearly about a policy before it has been put through 15 focus groups is like trying to teach a warthog how to tapdance.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65301099

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is being investigated by Parliament's standards watchdog over a possible failure to declare an interest.

Mr Sunak is being investigated over whether a declaration of interest was "open and frank", under rules set out by the commissioner for standards.
The BBC understands the probe relates to a childcare firm his wife has shares in.
The commissioner decides whether an MP has broken rules after an inquiry.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65301099

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is being investigated by Parliament's standards watchdog over a possible failure to declare an interest.

Mr Sunak is being investigated over whether a declaration of interest was "open and frank", under rules set out by the commissioner for standards.
The BBC understands the probe relates to a childcare firm his wife has shares in.
The commissioner decides whether an MP has broken rules after an inquiry.

You could make a good maths question out of that. If your wife has 10% shares in a company, and they get increased funding by x amount, how much would you stand to gain?
 
Just don’t see why voting Labour wouldn’t be an automatic reflex action after having the Tories in power for so long. Why would anyone who is left politically even think twice?

Why could not the left coalesce behind Labour to, at the bare minimum, remove as many Tories as possible?
Because a vote for Starmer gives him and his politics legitimacy, but doesn't actually solve anything.

This country has so many issues and all Starmer is proposing is austerity mk 2, a continuation of the Tory's hateful immigration policies, and less corruption. He's also worryingly authoritarian.
 
Because a vote for Starmer gives him and his politics legitimacy, but doesn't actually solve anything.

This country has so many issues and all Starmer is proposing is austerity mk 2, a continuation of the Tory's hateful immigration policies, and less corruption. He's also worryingly authoritarian.
More so than Tories already in power?

Hell, less corruption sounds like a positive step.
 
Going into a ransacked premises and taking something from it is looting surely? Should the CPS not have prosecuted? Are the CPS responsible for law regarding deportation?
Theft or Burglary both carry penalties sufficient for the deportation threshold.
 
Going into a ransacked premises and taking something from it is looting surely? Should the CPS not have prosecuted? Are the CPS responsible for law regarding deportation?
Theft or Burglary both carry penalties sufficient for the deportation threshold.
Fair enough if that's how you want to look at it but you can't blame me for being slightly worried that a man who pushed for tougher sentences for trivial offences is potentially going to be PM in a country where protesting is illegal.
 
Fair enough if that's how you want to look at it but you can't blame me for being slightly worried that a man who pushed for tougher sentences for trivial offences is potentially going to be PM in a country where protesting is illegal.
Would Starmer / Labour work to reduce / remove those anti-protesting laws if they were in power?
 
Fair enough if that's how you want to look at it but you can't blame me for being slightly worried that a man who pushed for tougher sentences for trivial offences is potentially going to be PM in a country where protesting is illegal.

Are we discussing the post-riots? If so, wasn't that an extraordinary event that required extraordinary action?