jamesjimmybyrondean
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I'd be interested in knowing the preferred strike of those that are against Kane
GreenwoodSo who is a striker you know that we can get who drops deep to link up play but then works just aswell getting in to finish chances in the box?
Theres bigger concerns from the other prospective targets.It is not has; it is will. So then, what becomes of such a post?
Kane has scored and assisted a lot of goals, but are you under the impression people voicing concerns aren't aware of that?
There's a stream of posts voicing reasons why there is concern, especially at the prices touted, which aren't even inclusive of what would be an astronomical wage.
Tier 1:
The United-related bits:
- Aouar's camp is currently in talks with Roma, but Milan and Frankfurt are other options that are still being kept alive.
- Roma's currently in the lead.
- Barcelona's keen on Matheus Nunes, but he's too expensive for them.
“Total bollocks” yet the source is a tier 1 highly reputable journalist. Oop.I'd ignore anything on that twitter account. Total bollocks.
I agree about Kane, he drops deep but then usually doesnt show the pace to get back in to the box. Its my main problem about him.
But as you said about Osimhen, he doesnt really fit our role either because he doesnt drop deep or link up play that well either.
So who is a striker you know that we can get who drops deep to link up play but then works just aswell getting in to finish chances in the box? Because i thought about this before & the only player i can think about is Benzema who has arguably been top 3 players in the world even if hes old & maybe available as a stop gap until we see how players like ferguson at brighton/the next wave of strikers develop.
Do you know anyone?
“Total bollocks” yet the source is a tier 1 highly reputable journalist. Oop.
“Total bollocks” yet the source is a tier 1 highly reputable journalist. Oop.
Pretty sure it would be Osimhen type of striker. There was a thread called Osimhen vs Kane.I'd be interested in knowing the preferred strike of those that are against Kane
Kolo Muani. He’s my guy now.
Levy would never let us sign Kane and have him for a glorious pre-season tour of North America.If this is true (and the Express surely wouldn't make it up...), I'd put in a bid literally the minute the window opens
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...Harry-Kane-asking-price-Man-Utd-transfer-news
The time for Kane at a huge fee was at least 2 years ago. His brother and Levy made their respective beds, and that's that.
The ONLY reason we should be after Kane is if it's cheap due to the contract situation and the pressure we can exert. Has any player who can walk free in 6 months garnered more than even 40m?
We are Manchester f*cking United - a club that has been synonymous with strikers - and we've not had an actual first choice centre forward under the age of 35 for about 4 seasons. It's disgraceful squad management.
If we have a run at Kane it has to be a stop-gap. Because in 3 years it's going to be a problem again, and the rest of the squad desperately needs work. Buying Kane and then going cheap on another CM and RB would make us worse then spreading the funds across the positions.
The time for Kane at a huge fee was at least 2 years ago. His brother and Levy made their respective beds, and that's that.
The ONLY reason we should be after Kane is if it's cheap due to the contract situation and the pressure we can exert. Has any player who can walk free in 6 months garnered more than even 40m?
We are Manchester f*cking United - a club that has been synonymous with strikers - and we've not had an actual first choice centre forward under the age of 35 for about 4 seasons. It's disgraceful squad management.
If we have a run at Kane it has to be a stop-gap. Because in 3 years it's going to be a problem again, and the rest of the squad desperately needs work. Buying Kane and then going cheap on another CM and RB would make us worse then spreading the funds across the positions.
So he'd be able to sign a pre-contract for free in January right? That's what I meant by walking in 6 months (after this summer). So Spurs etiher get something this summer, or nadda.His contract ends in 2024.
Ha, good point. A great decision all around.
Yeah sorry, you're right.So he'd be able to sign a pre-contract for free in January right? That's what I meant by walking in 6 months (after this summer). So Spurs etiher get something this summer, or nadda.
He'll only just have turned 30 by the start of next season. Got at least three very good years left unless he picks up a serious injury, which of course could happen to anyoneThe time for Kane at a huge fee was at least 2 years ago. His brother and Levy made their respective beds, and that's that.
The ONLY reason we should be after Kane is if it's cheap due to the contract situation and the pressure we can exert. Has any player who can walk free in 6 months garnered more than even 40m?
We are Manchester f*cking United - a club that has been synonymous with strikers - and we've not had an actual first choice centre forward under the age of 35 for about 4 seasons. It's disgraceful squad management.
If we have a run at Kane it has to be a stop-gap. Because in 3 years it's going to be a problem again, and the rest of the squad desperately needs work. Buying Kane and then going cheap on another CM and RB would make us worse then spreading the funds across the positions.
Thats not the way to look at it, mate. Look at the amount of games he has played, and how he looks to be on a negative spiral. Not a player we need. We need him five years ago. Let’s look elsewhere.He'll only just have turned 30 by the start of next season. Got at least three very good years left unless he picks up a serious injury, which of course could happen to anyone
how the hell do you arrive at the conclusion that he's on a downward spiral? check his goal tallyThats not the way to look at it, mate. Look at the amount of games he has played, and how he looks to be on a negative spiral. Not a player we need. We need him five years ago. Let’s look elsewhere.
Try watching the games and the goals he scores.. Don’t want him. It’s Ronaldo 2.0, and we need something else. Spending that kind of money, you want something for the future and the present.how the hell do you arrive at the conclusion that he's on a downward spiral? check his goal tally
how the hell do you arrive at the conclusion that he's on a downward spiral? check his goal tally
One thing I would note about the goals he has scored in the league this season is that 12 have been from open play, 11 from penalties/set-pieces. Versus a couple of seasons ago say when he scored 18 from open play, 5 from penalties/set-pieces.
And obviously you's genelly take more encouragment from what a player produces in open play.
Cut the crap. How many penalties out of them set piece goals..
4 penalties, 7 set-pieces. What difference does that make? In either case it's less impressive than open play goals when you're using goals to judge whether or not his general level is as good as it once was.
It means he scored 19 non penalty goals this season. Which is all that counts if you want to analyse it from open play. Trying to deflect because he scored from a freakin’ corner is just silly. That’s what we want.
It obviously isn't all that counts though. Because you pointed to goals as a measure of whether Kane's general ability as a footballer has declined from his peak when he was younger. And scoring goals in dynamic situations rather than off set plays clearly tells you more in that regard.
For example if Kane has lost pace or altered his game so that he's in the box less often, that impacts his ability to score goals in open play. Not his ability to head in a corner.
It's not an argument about whether we'd want those set-piece goals too, which we obviously would. It's an argument about whether he could have got those set-piece goals while also having declined as a footballer generally as he ages, which he obviously could.
So when he was dynamic and scored 18 from open play how many was from penalties that season?
The way I see it. If he has the ability to score goals during the flow of a football game what is the problem. If a large percentage is due to penalties like Bruno and Lacazette. Then yes there is a point for concern. But this is not the case… Teams will always get set pieces.