Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES

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Writing off his contract would be the first smart money move from this new Chelsea

It'll hit them hard with FFP. Writing off his contract will mean 60m amortization cost + 60m in unpaid wages = 120m. They're better off loaning him to whoever's interested or keeping him and hope the new managers can turn things around with Lukaku. They do need a clinical finisher and who better than to score that 96th min goal when the team needs it most if not Romelu Lukaku? ....right? :lol:

It's very possible that most or all of Lukaku's remaining amortisation was already written off in the last financial year though. On the last set of accounts the club willfully booked an extra £76.7M loss for "impairments on player registrations within the period" which basically translates to the club having downsized remaining yearly book costs for the future seasons by taking a massive one-off hit on the 2021/22 financial year.

The financial statement of course didn't specify which players' values were affected by that manouver because individual player values are never disclosed on the public documents but funnily enough that £76.7M figure would equal Lukaku's remaining book value in the summer of 2022 almost down to a pound.

My educated guess would be that Lukaku's value got more or less written off so either the club already took the full hit on Lukaku's fee on last year's accounts or some of his remaining amortisation was left untouched and the rest of the 'impairing' partly wrote down the values of some other players as well to add up to the £76.7M overall.

That still doesn't take care of Lukaku's elephant sized salary that we're still on the hook another three years for, but having his remaining book value closing in on zero and the salary being the only obstacle to overcome would already help massively in the club's efforts to offload him.
 
It's very possible that most or all of Lukaku's remaining amortisation was already written off in the last financial year though. On the last set of accounts the club willfully booked an extra £76.7M loss for "impairments on player registrations within the period" which basically translates to the club having downsized remaining yearly book costs for the future seasons by taking a massive one-off hit on the 2021/22 financial year.

Doing this while simultaneously offering 8 year contracts to offset amortization costs is a super risky strategy. If true, not sure why they didn't just hold on to the value & write it off over time while offering 5-6 year contracts to new signings?
 
Doing this while simultaneously offering 8 year contracts to offset amortization costs is a super risky strategy. If true, not sure why they didn't just hold on to the value & write it off over time while offering 5-6 year contracts to new signings?

Maybe because Lukaku was already deemed a failed investment going into the summer of 2022 so better to just get it over with?

It's also possible it may have something to do with the FFP rule changes. The year 2021/22 was still covered under the 'old FFP rules' but for this season and going forward the rules have changed.

Whether the £77M impairment was booked fully on Lukaku or partly him and the rest on some other players, any losses accounted in 21/22 still fell into the final monitoring period of the previous FFP rules where the club stayed within the allowed limits so it makes sense to make full use of the allowed cap and then continue with a cleaner slate under the new rules where the first monitoring period started this year.
 
Maybe because Lukaku was already deemed a failed investment going into the summer of 2022 so better to just get it over with?

It's also possible it may have something to do with the FFP rule changes. The year 2021/22 was still covered under the 'old FFP rules' but for this season and going forward the rules have changed.

Whether the £77M impairment was booked fully on Lukaku or partly him and the rest on some other players, any losses accounted in 21/22 still fell into the final monitoring period of the previous FFP rules where the club stayed within the allowed limits so it makes sense to make full use of the allowed cap and then continue with a cleaner slate under the new rules where the first monitoring period started this year.

What you are mentioning above is the set of accounts from the tax angle which is disclosed to investors. You cannot advance amortization & write off a capital asset from the tax perspective early. It's basically tax fraud if you do that. I'm not sure of the specifics of what Chelsea have done for FFP though.
 
Chelsea only exists today because the property developers who wanted to turn Stamford bridge in to flats went bust in the early 90s property crash. Those were dire times.

This is nothing, we need goal scorers, a clear out and a decent manager. If the owners can't see what's wrong now...

It may not work out well for financially for clearlake, the team should be back next season.

And yet we still have Chelsea fans railing against the CPO as if they were some evil organisation holding the club to ransom.
 
Are you kidding? Why would anyone feel sorry for them.

They will anyways throw even more money and get it right.

Rival fans feeling sorry for us would be a lot more annoying and honestly, very embarrassing, than just the standard banter we're getting this season.
 
What you are mentioning above is the set of accounts from the tax angle which is disclosed to investors. You cannot advance amortization & write off a capital asset from the tax perspective early. It's basically tax fraud if you do that. I'm not sure of the specifics of what Chelsea have done for FFP though.



'Impairment' seems to be a fairly normal procedure and also not that uncommon. If you click at the tweet there's a follow-up that has 5 year impairment numbers for every PL club from 2016-2021.

Apart from United, Burnley and Villa every club had done it to some extent. Chelsea booking £77M impairment losses in a single go is definitely unprecedented but apart from FFP there doesn't seem to be any rules that prevent such measures.
 
I guess Enrique is out, and now replaced by Poch as a possible option.

 
I was all for selling him at the time because I thought we could do better but hindsight has proven that to be a colossal mistake. Abraham has been our best striker since Costa.
Eh. Abraham wouldn't have solved your scoring problem if his time at Roma is any indication
 
Eh. Abraham wouldn't have solved your scoring problem if his time at Roma is any indication

Judging by his time at Chelsea, he would have been a far better option than literally every single attacking player we’ve had since 2018.
 
oh feck off

I was leaning towards Enrique myself and I’m sure the idea of Poch is much worse than the reality of Poch but he would be such an underwhelming appointment. If Enrique is out, I’m fully onboard the Nagelsmann train. It has to be him.
 
Has this been posted already?



I take it the “first step” he’s referring to is sacking Porter?
 
I was leaning towards Enrique myself and I’m sure the idea of Poch is much worse than the reality of Poch but he would be such an underwhelming appointment. If Enrique is out, I’m fully onboard the Nagelsmann train. It has to be him.

I'd take Ancelotti back if he's available at all, but yeah firmly agree Nagelsmann over Poch.
 
Has this been posted already?



I take it the “first step” he’s referring to is sacking Porter?


I posted it in the Boehly thread. I took that part to be a reference to sacking Tuchel tbh.
 
I'd take Ancelotti back if he's available at all, but yeah firmly agree Nagelsmann over Poch.

Oh no. Ancelotti would be a disaster I think. I’d much rather preserve the beautiful memories I have of him than have him and come and fail with this team.
 
Oh no. Ancelotti would be a disaster I think. I’d much rather preserve the beautiful memories I have of him than have him and come and fail with this team.

Yeah maybe you're right now that I think about it. He has typically done best with players who are savvy veterans and we don't have many of those.

Again though that's why I want Enrique - he doesn't take shit from anyone. Feels like that's badly needed.
 


'Impairment' seems to be a fairly normal procedure and also not that uncommon. If you click at the tweet there's a follow-up that has 5 year impairment numbers for every PL club from 2016-2021.

Apart from United, Burnley and Villa every club had done it to some extent. Chelsea booking £77M impairment losses in a single go is definitely unprecedented but apart from FFP there doesn't seem to be any rules that prevent such measures.


Barcelona when presented €486M of losses 2 years ago, €141M belonged to devaluation of the amortization of 5 players.

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I think Real Madrid did this too, but in smaller quantities.
 


'Impairment' seems to be a fairly normal procedure and also not that uncommon. If you click at the tweet there's a follow-up that has 5 year impairment numbers for every PL club from 2016-2021.

Apart from United, Burnley and Villa every club had done it to some extent. Chelsea booking £77M impairment losses in a single go is definitely unprecedented but apart from FFP there doesn't seem to be any rules that prevent such measures.


Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
 
They think appoint a top manager will solve their problems eventually, but fail to realize that without a proper squad engineering no manager in the world will suffice.
 
Oh no. Ancelotti would be a disaster I think. I’d much rather preserve the beautiful memories I have of him than have him and come and fail with this team.
With the wholesale change, Chelsea looks like a total rebuild job. Ancelotti is not suitable for that job especially without the vision from a DoF. Same reason he couldn't really improve Everton due to their scattergun approach with squad building
 
With the wholesale change, Chelsea looks like a total rebuild job. Ancelotti is not suitable for that job especially without the vision from a DoF. Same reason he couldn't really improve Everton due to their scattergun approach with squad building

I agree completely.
 
I was leaning towards Enrique myself and I’m sure the idea of Poch is much worse than the reality of Poch but he would be such an underwhelming appointment. If Enrique is out, I’m fully onboard the Nagelsmann train. It has to be him.
I've been against a potential Pochettino appointment for years but at this point I'm warming to him a bit.

Many of our players need microcoaching if we're to get out of this mess and he managed to get many players at Spurs who looked like utter write offs into elite performers (I especially enjoyed and was rather jealous of the fullback pairing of Walker and pre his injury Rose). Plus he will quickly sort out the fitness issues in the squad.

However his football isn't that great and his record in the market is pretty hopeless but I guess there's pros and cons to any appointment at this point. Ironically I think Sarri would be the best appointment from a pure footballing perspective but the toxic atmosphere that would bring in the terraces would just make it impossible.
 
Great news.

As long as the alternative isn't Poch, Kompany, or any other young project manager.
 
Great news.

As long as the alternative isn't Poch, Kompany, or any other young project manager.

Then who? Nagelsmann, Poch and Kompany made up literally the entire list of candidates.
 
It's gotta be Poch then surely? No Nagelsmann or Enrique, wow... I wonder if he saw how much of a mess it was and decided it wasn't for him, or did he get the promise of a better offer elsewhere in the summer
 
Then who? Nagelsmann, Poch and Kompany made up literally the entire list of candidates.

I'll still hold out hope for Enrique even though reports suggest we've distanced ourselves from him. And also you know who returning.

We need a manager now more than ever that will kick the players up the backside and instil an us against the world mentality. Substance over style for now until a core of players that can lead emerge.
 
I'll still hold out hope for Enrique even though reports suggest we've distanced ourselves from him. And also you know who returning.

We need a manager now more than ever that will kick the players up the backside and instil an us against the world mentality. Substance over style for now until a core of players that can lead emerge.

My preference was Enrique too but that seems very unlikely and with Nagelsmann out too, that leaves the path clear for Poch now. This will sound crazy but I do like the sound of Vincent Kompany though he would be genuinely insane to touch the Chelsea job.
 
My preference was Enrique too but that seems very unlikely and with Nagelsmann out too, that leaves the path clear for Poch now. This will sound crazy but I do like the sound of Vincent Kompany though he would be genuinely insane to touch the Chelsea job.

Not only insane for him but also an even bigger risk for us than Potter was. I like Kompany too, especially his personality I think fits a want to be top side. But at this stage its too big a risk.

Call me mental but I think our squad as it is suits Jose more than anyone. I do wonder who the 'mystery candidate' is.
 
Not only insane for him but also an even bigger risk for us than Potter was. I like Kompany too, especially his personality I think fits a want to be top side. But at this stage its too big a risk.

Call me mental but I think our squad as it is suits Jose more than anyone. I do wonder who the 'mystery candidate' is.

Yeah but I’m a sucker for a manager who can potentially build something medium to long term. I thought Potter was that guy. I think I prefer Kompany over Poch.

I wouldn’t let Jose within 500 metres of Cobham.
 
Call me mental but I think our squad as it is suits Jose more than anyone. I do wonder who the 'mystery candidate' is.

Yeah, Jose loves being patient with young players. I'm sure the likes of Mudryk and Madueke will flourish under his tutorship.
 
Chelsea fans talking about Amortisation and accounting practices is forever funny.

The club was fcuked when it lost criminal money. It’s somehow worse now they have more legitimate money.

The next 5 months need to be perfect for them, and they’ve got a fella at the helm who has no clue what he’s doing.

Nice to laugh at a club Fcuking it up as much as the Woodward-Glazer pairing did.
 
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