Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES

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ZolaWasMagic said:
thees a 4th. total guess but i think the 4th candidate its gallardo or spalletti
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I would think the 4th name being considered is someone currently in a job whose team still have something to play for this season so might not want to disrupt them by making the name public. Maybe Spalletti, Mourinho or Glasner?

Got to say I'm not a fan of the way the recruitment process is being handled. Too many names being considered and interviewed just makes the whole thing a big mess. The reason we have these 'sporting directors' at the club in the first place is so in a situation like this it's their job to analyze and identify who would be the best fit for our current squad and the direction we want to keep building the team towards. There's enough data about the managers and their preferred style to make a choice first and just offer them the job. If they accept then it's settled but if not, go after whoever's second on the list. It's not that fecking hard.
 
Rnd898 said:
I would think the 4th name being considered is someone currently in a job whose team still have something to play for this season so might not want to disrupt them by making the name public. Maybe Spalletti, Mourinho or Glasner?

Got to say I'm not a fan of the way the recruitment process is being handled. Too many names being considered and interviewed just makes the whole thing a big mess. The reason we have these 'sporting directors' at the club in the first place is so in a situation like this it's their job to analyze and identify who would be the best fit for our current squad and the direction we want to keep building the team towards. There's enough data about the managers and their preferred style to make a choice first and just offer them the job. If they accept then it's settled but if not, go after whoever's second on the list. It's not that fecking hard.
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vivell and stewart is why i quietly was sure nagelsman was nailed on
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
Yeah, Jose loves being patient with young players. I'm sure the likes of Mudryk and Madueke will flourish under his tutorship.
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I was more looking from a stylistic point of view. Mudryk is perfect for the way Mourinho likes to play.
 
1905 said:
I was more looking from a stylistic point of view. Mudryk is perfect for the way Mourinho likes to play.
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Mourinho was good at utilising Son's pace on the counter, but Son was already an established PL player (one of the best in the league) by the time he arrived. Whereas Mudryk looks raw. I can't see Mourinho having any patience with him.
 
Rnd898 said:
I would think the 4th name being considered is someone currently in a job whose team still have something to play for this season so might not want to disrupt them by making the name public. Maybe Spalletti, Mourinho or Glasner?

Got to say I'm not a fan of the way the recruitment process is being handled. Too many names being considered and interviewed just makes the whole thing a big mess. The reason we have these 'sporting directors' at the club in the first place is so in a situation like this it's their job to analyze and identify who would be the best fit for our current squad and the direction we want to keep building the team towards. There's enough data about the managers and their preferred style to make a choice first and just offer them the job. If they accept then it's settled but if not, go after whoever's second on the list. It's not that fecking hard.
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Absolutely disagree. We are doing the right thing. There’s no standout candidate in the names mentioned and taking time to make the right decision is exactly what we need. We are a shit show because of rash decision making and we grab any old person means we could end up with a scolari or AVB, someone not suited to the job. Let’s not forget this job is quite possibly the hardest job in football right now. If you think a few names flying around the media is a bad sign then I don’t know what to tell you. Though I’d much rather be in our position than Spurs who have every single manager reject them on a daily basis.
 
1905 said:
Not only insane for him but also an even bigger risk for us than Potter was. I like Kompany too, especially his personality I think fits a want to be top side. But at this stage its too big a risk.

Call me mental but I think our squad as it is suits Jose more than anyone. I do wonder who the 'mystery candidate' is.
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2005 Jose maybe. You've just (ATM, over)spent over half a billion on largely 'project' players. On the hand hand they might be more 'impressionable' and able to buy into Jose's ideas (read, easily bullied) - on the other, how many 'ideas' does he have left, aside from grind and then let the players at the top-end work it out ( which is working OK for Roma, but has a ceiling), and what are the odds that he just turns around 6 months down the line when Chelsea are in 6/7th, and playing tumescent, if not catastrophic, football, and demands that Boehly sells half of them off so he can buy some real 'personalities' (again, read expensive old-timers).
 
Rnd898 said:
I would think the 4th name being considered is someone currently in a job whose team still have something to play for this season so might not want to disrupt them by making the name public. Maybe Spalletti, Mourinho or Glasner?

Got to say I'm not a fan of the way the recruitment process is being handled. Too many names being considered and interviewed just makes the whole thing a big mess. The reason we have these 'sporting directors' at the club in the first place is so in a situation like this it's their job to analyze and identify who would be the best fit for our current squad and the direction we want to keep building the team towards. There's enough data about the managers and their preferred style to make a choice first and just offer them the job. If they accept then it's settled but if not, go after whoever's second on the list. It's not that fecking hard.
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Sadly I think the number one aspect is who can work with Boehly.
 
Alright didn't see that coming. Woodward level incompetence from them. Missing out on Nagelsmann and Luis Enrique is actually hilarious. Boehly probably wanted too much influence... Nice to see United isn't the banter club anymore.
 
bosnian_red said:
Alright didn't see that coming. Woodward level incompetence from them. Missing out on Nagelsmann and Luis Enrique is actually hilarious. Boehly probably wanted too much influence... Nice to see United isn't the banter club anymore.
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Didn't see what coming?
 
bosnian_red said:
Missing out on both nagelsmann and Enrique?
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Not wanting them = missing out?

Enrique has only had sucess at Barca with Messi/Neymar/Suarez (let's be real, I would've won La Liga managing that side) and Nagelsmann at 36 years old would be a massive gamble. I'm pleased we've decided not to further pursue either.
 
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duffer said:
Not wanting them = missing out?

Enrique has only had sucess at Barca with Messi/Neymar/Suarez (let's be real, I would've won La Liga managing that side) and Nagelsmann at 36 years old would be a massive gamble.
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Everyone is a gamble in a way but those 2 are by far the best managers in terms of managing at a high level and having a track record of implementing a good and modern system with excellent coaching. Of course, Tuchel should never have left in the first place as he ticked that box too (but had other issues).

Not wanting them though shows to me that whoever is picking the manager just doesn't know what they are doing. It's the same shit United went through for a decade until finally we made the smart, modern choice with Ten Hag. I thought this year for Chelsea would be like last year for United - and thought they'd be fine next year provided they get Luis Enrique or Nagelsmann in... Getting neither is laughably dumb and I will be surprised if they aren't looking for another manager in 1 or 2 years of average performances.
 
Not sure if skipping Nagelsmann and then going for Kompany is a good idea. Enrique won't be a miss. Poch will be decent for Chelsea.
 
bringbackbebe said:
Not sure if skipping Nagelsmann and then going for Kompany is a good idea. Enrique won't be a miss. Poch will be decent for Chelsea.
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Pretty sure kompany is paper talk. The only people who will pay attention to this name is non Chelsea fans. Creates the illusion we are in trouble when taking time to interview people is the first correct thing they’ve done in a while. The team is in trouble though for sure and getting the next manager in will determine whether we continue to fall off a cliff or make a resurgence next season. I’ve said it before, you guys were in a similar (yet less shitty) position last season and you got in the right manager, makes all the difference.
 
Luis Enrique only had success at a top team. Sure. I thought Chelsea were a top team. So what is the problem?

There are practically no managers out there who have great success at clubs that aren't already at the top. That is the nature of modern football.
 
Luis Enrique not fitting Chelsea's ideas and Nagelsmann ruling himself out suggests that Chelsea's ideas are not in line with normal managers' expectations. Easy to believe, seeing how Chelsea under this ownership consistently do things in a different way than anyone else.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
Luis Enrique only had success at a top team. Sure. I thought Chelsea were a top team. So what is the problem?
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If you think 2023 Chelsea are in any way comparable to 2015 Barca then I'd seriously question your sanity.

I'm sure he's a great coach but I'd have won stuff as manager of that Barca side.
 
Nagelsmann must be quite an odd fella if this is true.

The first tweet is about Poch being interested in Chelsea after Tuchel left and it being better for him in hindsight that he didn’t get the job at that point.

 
I'd rather Chelsea didn't get Poch. He's a good Manager. I would have taken him over Ten Hag in a heartbeat last summer (I hasten to add, before Eric was appointed and has proven to be both excellent and a good fit).

Marsch would work... my fellow Americans 'n all that. He's a crap enough Manager to keep Chelsea where they are now.
 
Pochetino surely a choice destined to fail. Simply because his teams often failed to have the discipline when going gets tough.

His spurs and PSG have bad disciplinary records in crunch games like spurs battle of bridge game or psg cl semis against city. His spurs even got Nick name dirty spurs. I am not at all convinced with him.
 
Pochettino would be my pick
Think they just need a reset and a boring, pragmatic coach with some experience. No unproven, visionary, up and comers. They need the top 6 equivalent of Big Sam.
 
WeePat said:
Nagelsmann must be quite an odd fella if this is true.

The first tweet is about Poch being interested in Chelsea after Tuchel left and it being better for him in hindsight that he didn’t get the job at that point.

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Totally normal process in any job. If he didn’t want to do want 99% of the working population has to go then he can go feck himself. At least we caught some red flags before hand. Im definitely 100% supportive of taking time and doing due diligence in an attempt to get it right. It could still fall flat in our faces of course but it’s a step in the right direction from some of their rash decision making of the past.
 
Nagelsmann sees himself as the super star I think. Self confidence not a bad thing for a coach. Special One 2 ?

These owners are totally different to Roman. They're looking for long term value, not trophies necessarily.

I'd rather have kept Potter than get Poch in. If we don't sign new forwards we'll be just as bad next season.
 
HookedOnAPhelan said:
Who wouldn’t want the job, you work for a few months and then collect a fortune.
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Yeah, anybody that completes two full seasons at Chelsea is basically one of our longer serving managers. I think only Mourinho has managed to go beyond 2 years in the last 20 years.
 
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