Chelsea 2022/2023 | THIS IS LAST YEARS THREAD YOU NUMPTIES

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Rnd898 said:
Yeah and mathematically speaking Man United or Newcastle could still win the league if they win their remaining games and at the same time both City and Arsenal start losing all of theirs but is there anyone who actually think that might happen? :lol:

The probability for someone other than City/Arsenal winning the league this season should be around the same as Chelsea being relegated, which would require us to lose all of our remaining games (possible) and also coincide with multiple relegation-threatened sides going on winning runs all of a sudden (theoretical at best).

Everton 41 points (4W)
Leicester 40 points (3W 1D or better)
West Ham 40 points (2W 3L or better)
Leeds 40 points (3W 1D or better)
Forest 40 points (3W 1D or better)
Wolves 40 points (1W 3L or better)

Basically a minimum five of those runs need to happen and we have to lose all remaining games to be in any real trouble. I don't see Everton, Leicester, Leeds and Forest all turning their form into title winner quality for the remaining games, especially as some of them have really tough fixtures coming up. Maybe one could surprise us and somehow fly their way into safety but at least three of them doing it is just not going to happen.



Mount has always been a player who for some reason has divided the fanbase. Some rate him very highly while others don't rate him at all. The latter group seem to have some weird agenda against him going back to when he was performing really well and was the club's POTY two seasons running.

Personally I think Mount is a really good player but it has to be said his form this season has been utterly terrible. Maybe it's been partly because he's been overplayed to the ground in the last couple of seasons, maybe it's the uncertainty with the contract situation, maybe it's just the team's form and lack of structure in general or more likely a combination of them all. Either way he's not been playing well.

I do hope the contract situation can be sorted out and he stays on. Maybe a solid compromise for all parties could be a 2-3 year contract to get a better idea where he fits in under the next manager and how influential his role in the squad will be before either party commits to a longer deal?
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I mean, as I said in my one line mate "everything has to fall that way"

Nice to know you're not concerned with the fact that you can literally be relegated, that is a (albeit slim) possibility.
 
WeePat said:
One of my best mates is an Arsenal fan and he’s spent the last 3 years trashing Mount, always talking about how grossly overrated he is etc. Soon as he was linked with Arsenal, he was like ‘not actually a bad player you know, I can see what he brings to the table’ :lol:

I would honestly be shocked if he ended up at either Arsenal or Liverpool. I think he’s signing a new deal.
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I actually think he'd be quality under Arteta but I can see why some people wouldn't rate him

If you need to sell players this summer I can see him being one of them.
 
Mogget said:
I actually think he'd be quality under Arteta but I can see why some people wouldn't rate him

If you need to sell players this summer I can see him being one of them.
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Im slightly different to WeePat in the sense i think he will end up going. Especially for anything over 50m.
 
The Purley King said:
Not seeing sterling’s name in any list of players to ship out, but he’d be towards the top of my list.
Has been awful for quite a while.
If Poch comes and has a free hand in shipping out what is needed, combined with no midweek games and I think they’ll be fairly close to top4.
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How do you ship out your most paid player who's on a long term contract - 300k+ per week till 2027?
 
duffer said:
Same way we've shipped out the million other players over the past 2 decades. Sell them, loan them or release them.
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There seems to be this weird consensus on the Caf that highly paid players are somehow impossible to sell, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
 
Siorac said:
There seems to be this weird consensus on the Caf that highly paid players are somehow impossible to sell, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
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I don't see how it's weird, or mountain of evidence. Will interesting to see how they would sell Lukaku who looks like he's finished as a prolific scorer and he's not the type who is happy to be a back up.

Chelsea used to have some shady transfer like Oscar, Ramirez, selling Felipe Luiz Morata back to Atletico under Abramovich. Not sure they still can pull those off now with the new higher up.
 
ti vu said:
I don't see how it's weird, or mountain of evidence. Will interesting to see how they would sell Lukaku who looks like he's finished as a prolific scorer and he's not the type who is happy to be a back up.

Chelsea used to have some shady transfer like Oscar, Ramirez, selling Felipe Luiz Morata back to Atletico under Abramovich. Not sure they still can pull those off now with the new higher up.
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We probably won't sell Lukaku, he'll just be shipped out on loan again, like this season and also like we did with the likes of other big money flops like Sheva or Torres.
 
duffer said:
Same way we've shipped out the million other players over the past 2 decades. Sell them, loan them or release them.
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Which player of Sterling's worth did you manage to ship?
Lukaku is the closest and he's on your books.
 
VP89 said:
Which player of Sterling's worth did you manage to ship?
Lukaku is the closest and he's on your books.
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Morata. Got back like 4/5 of the fee they paid for, selling to Atletico. But Atletico, Chelsea used to have shady connection between themselves and Chinese market. Chinese market seems to no long a viable option and this is a set up at the top at Chelsea.
 
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GifLord said:
How do you ship out your most paid player who's on a long term contract - 300k+ per week till 2027?
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I don’t know we certainly haven’t solved that issue but maybe a loan with an option to buy or something like that. He hasn’t offered anything for a while.
 
VP89 said:
Which player of Sterling's worth did you manage to ship?
Lukaku is the closest and he's on your books.
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Sterling cost 47.5 mil. We've shipped out a few over the years who cost more.

Not necessarily at a profit (and sometimes at a huge loss) but shipped out nontheless. Werner (who cost about the same as Sterling) being the most recent I guess.
 
duffer said:
Sterling cost 47.5 mil. We've shipped out a few over the years who cost more.

Not necessarily at a profit (and sometimes at a huge loss) but shipped out nontheless. Werner (who cost about the same as Sterling) being the most recent I guess.
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You can't just ship out players on very high wages. When Utd signed Lukaku and Rooney went the other way to Everton as part of the exchange Utd still had to pay a part of his high salary
https://www.besoccer.com/new/manche...und-15m-as-rooney-agrees-50-per-cent-wage-cut
 
duffer said:
Werner had 3 years left when we sold him and we still sold him.

I'm not saying we will sell Sterling but him having 4 years on his contract won't be a massive issue.
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That's because the player himself accepted a 50% wage cut. Do you really think Sterling whose this is his last big payday will do that?
 
Zaphod2319 said:
Boehly and his partners are trying to do what they did with the Dodgers. Buy the best young talent, even at a premium, and build the team. Will it work? Don't know. They never ran into problems selling their young talent for the Dodgers and they are convinced that model will work for Chelsea. The outliers to this are the players they bought in a rush with Tuchel.
I am not saying this is a great idea, but there is a method to their absolute madness.
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But we don’t know, that’s my point. Look at the game now, who can say anybody is playing well? That’s you all season. They’re waltzing through your midfield here, you may as well not have one.
Your season has been so bad that it doesn’t even count towards players getting used to each other, acclimatising etc. it means next year is another wasted year for you.
 
This one is on Frank. What a disastrous set up. Playing a half-fit Auba (which he acknowledged pre-game) and playing Sterling who can't find a pass over Mudryk makes zero sense. If you're gonna play Sterling, at least put him up front and get mudryk on to give you some penetration.
 
Unbelievable how new owners got literally 0 decisions right in one year. Tried to reinvent football and got shown up as frauds. A shame that money ultimately gets you results in the end and that it is hard to be as bad as they are for an extended period of time but they are so clueless. Ted Lasso would have done better as a manager than Lampard ffs.
 
Why do I think they’ll beat United?

Maybe I’m just super negative, but I get the feeling. They’re bound a good match with the players they have
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Why do I think they’ll beat United?

Maybe I’m just super negative, but I get the feeling. They’re bound a good match with the players they have
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I’m optimistically hoping we’ll be able to rest half the team for them
 
Chelsea have won 5 games in all competitions since the World Cup. We are closing in on 5 months
 
Surely Badashile and Fofana should be getting a go as the CB combination if you're playing a back 4? Silva 39 start of next season and pretty much always played in a 3 for Chelsea so if you're building for the long term that's surely logical.

Aside from that Chelsea the usual hot mess. Are they still actually going to sign Felix full time as he's been bench warming for weeks now after his bright start.
 
If Chelsea want to compete again, it is really obvious that Todd needs to stop being such a cheapskate and spend 2 billion in the summer transfer window!
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Why do I think they’ll beat United?

Maybe I’m just super negative, but I get the feeling. They’re bound a good match with the players they have
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It’s the penultimate game of the league season and we’re the home team. Only way I can see us not winning the game is it could be a dead rubber game with nothing riding on it, and it ends in a boring 0-0.
 
Shocking how bad Chelsea are here, I haven’t seen them play once this season and wasn’t expecting this.
 
I can't believe Chelsea fans are calm about the small possibility that they could be relegated, you have bloody Frank lampard in charge of your team, good luck even getting a single win in the remaining games with him in charge
 
telstar96 said:
100%. Also the volume at which players arrived and the overinflated price tags aren't indicative of Chelsea having no clue of what their doing, even though many people will want us to believe this. Rather it was just so they could exploit a loophole which has now since been closed. They've essentially expedited their recruitment from a potential 2-3 year period to 6 months, plus the certainty of having the players they want now and not potentially missing out on them in the future.
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Who are these players that Chelsea would have missed out had they not signed last summer? Or big clubs were in the queue to sign them.

Enzo is the only player who would have attracted lot of interest and for the price Chelsea paid, don't think any other club would have pulled the trigger.
 
I thought we were in a crisis with the shambles last season and finishing 6th.

Seeing Chelsea absolutely crumble is a whole new level and a joy to watch. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving club.
 
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