Does he?
Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Yeah it is his dream club because it's his club and he and his entire family are Spurs fans. Why else is he still there?
I agree, but at the same time, it's kind of ridiculous for fans to feel that a player owes them their entire career and cannot, under any circumstances, sign for another English club. I fully understand not selling to a genuine enemy, like Arse or Chels, but United and Spurs don't have any serious beef. He's given them so many years and they are worse now than they were 10 years ago. Is this how football is now? If you end up playing for your boyhood club you can never be allowed to leave? It's sort of pathetic.
Cos his brother is a shit agent?
I mean I guess so, At the time i'd have absolutely detested the thought of Giggs, Beckham, Scholes etc playing for another English team and playing against us in the league. Like Beckham was my idol, I was a kid and I cried when he went to Real.
Alot of the fans would probably understand, at the same time the club is clearly at a tipping point here, they need a good summer and their star man up and leaving when he might be needed the most is something I'm sure won't sit right with a lot of people, this is something that might play into it. He or Levy might say give it a season to help get us back into Europe and then control his own destiny next season after giving that, that scenario wouldn't surprise me either.
Either way I hope we get a definitive answer sharpish and either pursue it or cut it off quickly and move elsewhere, we really don't need another FDJ saga holding us back again, on top of the non-takeover too
Kane needs to decide, if he wants to move his best bet is this summer. Next summer he may, or may not be required, I am not convinced he is right for us personally, I think he is going to age badly in 3 years. If he doesn't want to move this year he should just sign a big deal and stay there for life.
Of course we will chase this all the way until the last day and end up signing another average player.
Of course we will chase this all the way until the last day and end up signing another average player.
Gazza went to Spurs, Wazza came to us, Lampard and Joe Cole went to Chelsea. It's generally the way of the world that top class players - even when they start off at their hometown clubs - move on to pastures new when they outgrow their surroundings. Weirdly, because Kane has stayed there so long it almost feels harder for him to leave, when the reality is that if anything he deserves to be able to leave without any shit because he has given that club so much of his life. Even at the height of our success (success that Spurs can only dream of) we lost Becks and Ronaldo to Real - and at the time they were very close rivals, in spite of them being in a different country. It's the way of the world, sometimes players want a different challenge - it's their fecking life FFS, and footballers careers are short. Time for Levy and Spurs fans to stop being such fecking babies, and let Kane leave with their eternal thanks - whether that be for United or Real.
I mean, you've gone off on one here because Levy isn't letting Kane join us, would you care so much if it wasn't us involved? There's nothing to say Kane even wants to leave currently, maybe he does, but it's not exactly confirmed
Levy will not see the 2024-2025 season if Tottenham are having a similar season and Kane leaves as free agent (Son would be 32-years old too for the 2024-2025 season and the other players are nothing special).
Tottenham will need a miracle to finish in the top four next season with the current squad.
Levy should sell Kane now so the club can get a fresh start (New project) and can spend this money for 3-4 good new players.
Tottenham will need a miracle to finish in the top four next season with the current squad.
Levy should sell Kane now so the club can get a fresh start (New project) and can spend this money for 3-4 good new players.
Agreed. Just a question of at what age.
Can we afford to wait until next year
Imo this is unlikely. He doesn't rely on pace to play anyway. Imo he has at least 3 good seasons left in him.
And he's just perfect for us mate. Not only a PL proven top scorer but also excellent passer, very strong, can keep the ball really well under pressure, very good in the air, excellent linking he'll simply elevate the forwards around him to another level. Plus he doesn't really need much pace to play in a possession based system. You need pace mostly for the counters. To play in a possession based system you'd need technique and brain much more than pace. For a top goal scorer it's actually all about how they read the game, choose their position, move a bit ahead of the defenders and have the strength to outmuscle them. And of course finishing.
The fact Pep was ready to splash +100m on him and only signed Haaland because Levy was too greedy speaks volumes imo. England is knew for overrating their players but Kane is usually so underrated it feels unbelievable really.
Do you think he ends up here whether that is this summer or on a free in 2024
I bet Kane wants to leave this summer. He knows that club is going nowhere. And when Levy doesn't sell him, Kane is going to be pissed.
Still need a lot of convincing on that
Well if anyone is in a position to ignore a gentleman's agreement, it's Kane.
Would serve Levy right.
He needs to grow a set pronto
Imo it's quite unlikely. But there's still hope.
Madrid have a pretty good team and they'll challenge for top honors next season. But they'll look to replace Kane as soon as Haaland or Mbappe are available. And English players usually don't do well there because of the cultural difference. So there's some uncertainty for Kane and Madrid won't want to spend too much on him.
We're still rebuilding but as I have said in this thread we'd have a chance at the title with Kane next season. Imo ETH would convince Kane of that. But we won't have the 100m until the takeover is over. There's so much uncertainty.
Imo this would be drag for a while simply because of Levy. That cnut knows very well he'd need to sell this summer. But as greedy as he is he'll try his best to maximize the fee. So he'll wait for another bidder. There's not many top proven scorers on the market anyway and Kane is top quality.
Imo Kane will definitely move this summer no way Levy would let him leave on a free. And imo Kane really want to move too. So if the takeover got done soon enough we'd have quite a big chance to sign Kane if we're ready to spend big on him I think. Money talks after all.
Why not? Arsenal only have Jesus level of striker (only score 11 League goals), and they're close on winning title.
Yeah but our front six work as a unit and Jesus often drops deep and rotates the centre with Martinelli. We dont have a 'front man' and to be honest, we could propably function and score goals if we played no striker and used a false 9.
Arsenal as a team are worth more than the sum of the parts.
So Spurs want Sancho... well, Levy knows how to get him. otherwise he can feck right off - I'd be furious if we let them have their target without us getting ours
I wouldn't if it meant offloading Sancho for 60m.
Hes open to moving and won't sign a new contract.
Don't be so naieve.
Will wait for Spurs tier 1's to say it
Levy is even thicker than I thought he was if the interest in Sancho is legit.
Sancho is massively talented, but he just needs to adapt to ETH's style, and regain his confidence. There is a good player in there somewhere, and I trust ETH to bring out the best in him.
Their recruitment has been pretty terrible last few seasons. Not sure any player had any big impact and they fall back to what they know. Son and Kane.
We should play their games. Quote them 100m for him. He’s still under contract unlike Kane who as 1 year left on his. We should offer them Martial aswell.
Oh yeah that's a great idea
How do you know all that?
Because we saw it with City albeit he had longer left on his contract back then
Probably by not burying his head in the sand?
Seems this got missed, this is Spurs Tier 1
“Tottenham remain steadfast in their intention not to sell Harry Kane this summer, especially to another Premier League club”
well, I care enough to spend 2 mins writing a post on RedCafe, but believe me I'm not losing any sleep over it!
No.
He needs to push for his Utd move. If he doesn’t, he won’t get it, and Utd shouldn’t wait or opt for ‘stop gap’ strikers.
He pushed for City a few years ago but Levy slammed the door firmly in his face. Now, then he’s got all the contract leverage, hes gunshy
He pushed for City a few years ago but Levy slammed the door firmly in his face. Now, then he’s got all the contract leverage, hes gunshy
I think if Qatar is announced Kane’ll very quickly start making noises (not just in his usual way of nasal talking…).
But most of all Utd mustn’t be doing anymore stop gaps now imo.
No more faffing around.
From what I understand the new owners don't suddenly make our budget more elastic. It will certainly allow us to make the moves we were planning on making though.
No, but I think it does make the project a lot more exciting.
Look at Newcastle, the moment they got bought with Ashley properly removed, the performances stepped up. The players clearly desperately want to be part of a huge project.
If I was Kane and it was a choice between Real or Utd, it would matter to me if it was Utd owned by 92 Foundation or Utd owned by Ratcliffe and Glazers, I just don’t think it’s anywhere near as exciting or promising as a project.
I could be wrong. It’s just my opinion.
Excited toddler dribbling and squeaking kind of thing?
Very much so.