Most of the info is on telegram channels, which are largely in Russian and most twitter users don't have the ability to process, so obviously most tweets will be reflective of Russian speakers translating info to Twitter. This guy doesn't know anymore than the rest of them. I'd rather get info from there than have muppets like Michael Weiss simply retweeting known things whilst claiming he has inside sources.
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Most of the info is on telegram channels, which are largely in Russian and most twitter users don't have the ability to process, so obviously most tweets will be reflective of Russian speakers translating info to Twitter. This guy doesn't know anymore than the rest of them. I'd rather get info from there than have muppets like Michael Weiss simply retweeting known things whilst claiming he has inside sources.
Its too late imo. Prigozhin will get killed if he surrenders or weakens himself in any way, either by Putin's army loyalists, the FSB, or a disaffected Wagner faction from within.
Putin doesn't need a justification to remove leadership he has done it plenty of times before. This whole thing made him look very weak.
He’s insane, he’s also a dead man walking.
That's what I think too, so I am not sure how he could possibly agree.
Naa Putin shat his pants
Who needs Tom Clancy when you can just make movies about just another week in Russia.
Yes. Makes no sense for either side. Putin hasn’t shown force to stop it - Wagner decided to stop - I don’t get how Wagner can suffer zero consequences regardless of guarantees. What a bizarre episode.
Whatever happens next, no one will argue going forward that Putin's grip on power is far weaker than a vast majority previously believed.
Hitler’s ghost after hearing that Wagner is moving away from Moscow
Think of the number of oligarchs and officials that have died under mysterious circumstances in recent months. This seems a very odd way to get rid of officials that, like you said, makes Putin look very weak. Even regardless of the power Putin holds over the media. It will be interesting to see how they present this story over the coming weeks
Anticlimactic I'd say. We'll, it has been a fun morning/afternoon anyway.
Anyway, I'd like to know who is the next de facto leader of the military. The guy who marched to the capital with his own army allegedly taking down russian helicopters on his way, the guy who has just been humilliated by him and was saved by a deal in the eleventh hour when he was already making preparations to defend the capital, or the guy who leads by running away?
Anyway, I'd like to know who is the next de facto leader of the military. The guy who marched to the capital with his own army allegedly taking down russian helicopters on his way, the guy who has just been humilliated by him and was saved by a deal in the eleventh hour when he was already making preparations to defend the capital, or the guy who leads by running away?
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I don't disagree on principle, but this particular guy is a proven bullshitter. Earlier in the war he suggested Kyiv was about to be nuclear bombed. And not in a "I'm speculating" manner, in a "the planes are being fueled right now" manner. I don't mind if people give their own comments, but there's absolutely no line of separation between the actual information and this guy's wild (and usually completely unfounded) speculation. It's impossible for someone who reads any of his tweets in this thread to know the difference.
Like the tweet @wr8_utd posted just now, about FSB mass raids. Is that speculation or credible information? We have no way of knowing. He could just have said "reports on Telegram that FSB is . . .".
Nobel peace prize for Prigozin ?
Anyway, even if there were "security guarantees", who would trust Putin's "guarantees" anyway, i know Prigozhin is an evil man, but is he also dumb?
Wagner guy has clearly read my posts about the setup, removing all generals etc and turned down the banquet.
No way this was a false flag, Putin wouldn't have abandoned Moscow if it was. It makes him look incredibly weak.
What strikes me as incredible is how easily it was for a pseudo military force to march into the outskirts of Moscow.
Whether its speculation or credible is for the readers to decide. He also posts a lot of audio/video, which can't be argued as BS, just as many of the other accounts post the same thing.
Either there’s another twist in the tail, or they’re all a bunch of massive idiots who have lost a lot of credibility over the last 48 hours.
No one suspects the family dog when it's walking around the house.
Isn't moving to a bunker standard protocol?
Okay, but that's an impossible task. You're making it harder for people who use the Caf for information to be informed.
This has definitely weakened Putin hugely. Seems like this will be looked back on as the catalyst to something else.
A likelier scenario is you're doing that by derailing the thread by arguing about this instead of tuning it out, in lieu of rarely making any substantive comments about the thread topic itself. If you don't like guy's tweets, ignore them and jog on.
Fleeing your capital is not a good look.
Yeah, but Prigozhin has a massive force of well trained soldiers who he has just demonstrated are loyal to him alone. Putin can rid himself of other officials within his own government because others/their replacements will fall in line. Prigozhin has a private army holding significant Russian interests in not only Ukraine but also the Middle East and Africa. Not saying Putin won't turn against him eventually, but Prigozhin holds cards others don't. Putin created a monster
A sensible protocol isn't meant to look good but be efficient and safe.
You're right, but if you think further, could it be an Erdogan 2.0, just a show for a cleansing operation? Threatening a coup to see who is loyal to him? Those who stayed silent throughout the day, or even left Moscow will have a bad time going forward. Or am I reading too much into it?
If it wasn't planned by Putin, I just don't see how Prigozhin and his Wagners will walk away with this. Then he is a dead man walking and he must know it. So why does he accept a truce?
It's too late, troops have been spotted in the streets of Hollywood.
Yeah would have been sensible for Zelensky to evacuate to Lviv. But sometimes sense needs to get thrown out of the window when you are a leader in critical situation for your country, and your job is to inspire your people.
I'm just an idiot bystander but I feel like this has setup written all over it. Russia has never been able to lie convincingly.
I remember reading an article some months ago about Prigozhin being a genuine threat to Putin's power. I remember reading the article and not understanding how someone who seems to rely on Putin entirely for his power and influence could then turn on Putin.
It's interesting looking back on how prophetic that article was. Obviously there wasn't a coup but Putin really has created a monster in his own inner circle.
It's interesting looking back on how prophetic that article was. Obviously there wasn't a coup but Putin really has created a monster in his own inner circle.
Deleting my response and giving me a warning, what a mature way to handle criticism by a senior figure on the site.
Lukashenko while talking about raoul: get this man a shield!