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He’d just blame Wagner group for the mess.It would've been disastrous for Putin if he discharged any kind of WMD inside Russia, since a lot of civilians would've been killed in the process.
He’d just blame Wagner group for the mess.It would've been disastrous for Putin if he discharged any kind of WMD inside Russia, since a lot of civilians would've been killed in the process.
True. Unless this is some sort of elaborate 4d chess fake by Prigozhin. All other signs point to him getting killed since he has made Putin look incredibly weak by fleeing the capital.
If Gerasimoigu get replaced and Wagner continues to exist, it would appear that he got what he wanted from Putin by blackmail. Not a small feat.
Interesting
HardlyDisintegration of the Russian federation.
Putin could save his face by throwing Shoigu and Gerasimov under the bus. He could make a statement that the military leadership actually ordered an attack on Russian troops (i.e. Wagner), and that the people responsible are being arrested. In general, both Putin and Prigozhin have plenty of support among the Russians, and I think most would be ready to forgive them both.I don't really understand Prigozhin's thought process in accepting this deal. His primary aim seems to have been to prevent Wagner from being absorbed into the MOD and his power/influence eliminated. He's supposedly accomplished that, but he's also abandoned all of the tactical advantages he had in this scenario along with putting a huge target on his bald head. He's moving from a place where Putin and Shoigu can't attack him without jeopardizing the broader war back to the front lines where he could catch an errant missile.
The only way for Putin to save face and prevent a repeat is to kill him, which I imagine could happen soon.
Interesting
Coup is cancelled boys. Thy did a deal
How long before he's dead? 2 weeks?
Obviously not now.Hardly
That's arguably the scenario that makes the most kind of sense to me. Prigozhin will say that he 's shown over the last 24 hours that the people who were in charge are completely incompetent, so put him in charge of the entire military and he'll not only turn his troops around but he'll win the war for Russia. Putin won't be happy, but agreed to the terms since things looked so bad for him.I reckon prigozhin has the majority of the military and the security services on his side. He's probably been given control of the defence ministry and putin will take a back seat ala Medvedev style
Exactly. He'll hate Lukashenko for appearing more competent than him as well.
Coup is cancelled boys. Thy did a deal
Deal signed, and here we go! Prigozhin to join the underworld in permanent move.
Also, the sheer speed at which both Lukashenko fled Minsk and Putin/Medvedev fled Moscow, suggests these guys are absolutely bricking it at the thought of being overthrown and executed. Not knowing when that inevitable moment is coming must be excruciating.
Deal signed, and here we go! Prigozhin to join the underworld in permanent move.
Nah, they're nothing special.They are very good.
Whether Kadyrov actually wants his trusted regiments to die while defending the Russian military is a separate question.
No he wasn't?Yeah. He was in prison for child prostitution, then took over a restaurant that was a meeting point for Moscow's high society. This way he met Putin and his friendship gave him the opportunity to open restaurants all over the country, as well as cater for the whole Russian army. He made billions and with that money, he created Wagner.
Someone will bump him the first chance they get. I doubt this guy is going to respect any deals they have with China, but the US will see this as an opportunity to get Russia.Yeah, I agree. I think he'll throw the kitchen sink at Ukraine in order to win the war, but then fail as an administrator when running the country.
Prigozhin had better keep away from high-up windows, or cups of tea.
Progzhin almost engineered a coup, there is no way he’d be stupid enough to get assassinated by Putin’s goon squad. Some feckery must be afoot.
Maybe Putin has promised to step down?
Do a Krushchev
If anyone will dear me to say it’s not russians war it’s Putin’s next time:
It’s a blood thirsty nation that deserves to be completely isolated from the western world. They’re not like us.