Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

Ringol said:
If Bayern is so hopeless as you write and loses 5-0 to everyone, why did the bookies make them as the main favourite to win the Champions League before the start of last season? Did they want to lose money? Don't look at the Bundesliga level! Bayern plays in a completely different league to the rest in Germany. There are 17 clubs + 1 Bayern. They weaken their league rivals every year by buying the best players from them. Something unthinkable in the Premier League (Levy). Even having a disastrous previous season, they won the league (11x in a row). IMO a lot of the credit for that goes to Neuer's injury, without it they would have secured the title a few rounds before the end of the season.

BTW. If you want to run 90 minutes every three days for a measly 20 million a year, send your CV to Munich. If they take you on (why wouldn't?), in a year you'll have more trophies than Kane :D
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I didn't say Bayern was hopeless, just that their chances in the CL is not any better than many other clubs, signing for them in the hopes of winning a CL is stupid.
Ringol said:
Sure, United is the 3rd most popular club in the world. That is not disputed by anyone. However, the difference that the 2 top clubs (Real, Barca) have over United is bigger than United has over the 10th club on the list. Depending on which ranking you come across, there will be Liverpool, Juve, Bayern, City, PSG, Chelsea, etc (random order).

You gave a cool example of Rooney. Are you able to check the number of followers he has on social media vs Beckham? My intuition tells me that the 2nd will have 2x more.


We don't know what Kane's priorities are. If his main goal is to finally win some trophies, his best chances are in: 1. Bayern, 2. Real, 3. Spurs. 4. United. Thats bookies predicted last season. I didn't even realise United's chances were rated so low. Now i'm sure he won't sign with United cuz the chances of trophies are negligible and the bigger money can he earn elsewhere. The final aspect - no desire to leave England (family, kids), then Kane will extend his contract with Spurs.
In England, Kane already has an established brand and significantly his marketing value will not change. In a new market, he is gaining a very large audience at the beginning.
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I'm not sure using IG/FB followers is the best guide of popularity, otherwise you'd have PSG in 4th place in the world. Anyway, an argument for another day.

Beckham is not exactly the best comparison, is he? It helps immensely to be good looking, and he played for Real Madrid as well as United.

I accept that he's more likely to win trophies at Bayern or Real, how did you arrive in the conclusion that he's more likely to win something at Spurs? :lol:

Since you like looking at odds so much: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/winner

United are 4th favourites at around 11-13, Spurs are at 41-51 for the Prem.
 
Sandikan said:
What do you think defoe did? As he actually moved around a lot.
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Spent his prime years at spurs while not winning anything until he won the Scottish league at the age of 38 I believe.

I recon Kane could end up with a similarly mediocre career.
 
I feel uneasy with the links to United refusing to go away. He is 30, would cost a fortune and has a history of failure for both club and country. Also missed the most important penalty of his career when facing a has-been club team mate in goal. Obviously, not to say that he is not a great player, but the time for this transfer was at least 4 years ago, not now.
 
He’ll sign a new contract with a legal obligation to wear a T-shirt with Levy’s bald head in every game, lifting his Spurs jersey up every time he scores.

Posters who are worried about him signing can relax, he isn’t coming.
 
the_cliff said:
Not when it comes to money. Like hell he'll let Kane walk for free.
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Agree. Levy is a cnut but he's a businessman. And a fecking greedy one. No way he'd let Kane leave on a free.

Imo this would be decided only by the last week of August. Levy then would have a choice of selling to Bayern or Madrid for 60m or nothing. Or to us for +80m, if we have the cash by then and haven't bought Hojlund yet.

Levy is still waiting for a better bid but as everyone know they'd get Kane for free next summer. Or maybe 30m in Jan. So nobody is in a hurry. Levy thinks he's smarter than everyone but he's obviously not.
 
If he has any sense he refuses any contract offer. From a footballing or financial point it makes no sense whatsoever. He'll earn less for one season maybe if he doesn't, but the free transfer to a big club next season means he'll cover the difference. And that is precisely why I expect he'll go on to sign a new five year with Levy.
 
Cal? said:
I accept that he's more likely to win trophies at Bayern or Real, how did you arrive in the conclusion that he's more likely to win something at Spurs? :lol:
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Ringol said:
1. Bayern, 2. Real, 3. Spurs. 4. United. Thats bookies predicted last season.
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I wrote that according to the bookmakers odds from last season. I didn't want to use the current ones, as the transfer window can shuffle the odds of individual clubs considerably. HERE are odds for last season from site you provided. Tottenham were ranked higher than United. A year ago it was certain that Kane would be a Spurs player. Anyway, it doesn't matter. 2% Spurs or 7% United is still like a drop in the ocean. Quick maths, statistically with those odds, Kane would need to play 14 seasons at United to win Premier League.

Cal? said:
Beckham is not exactly the best comparison, is he? It helps immensely to be good looking, and he played for Real Madrid as well as United.
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That's more or less what the difference in Kane's post-career popularity would be if: 1. He will play until the end of it in the Premier League and won nothing. 2. He'll move to Real, Bayern or PSG and win some trophies there.

Blackwidow said:
Munich has atleast 2 international schools with main language English that are very good - they are expensive but that should be not problem for Kane. He probably sends his kids to private schools in London, too, that should not be really cheaper.

It takes 2 hours to fly to London with a private plane. That should not be a big handicap either to have family over in Munich - or fly back to London for some time. His wife seems to like to go into skiing holidays in the Alps - just takes an hour to do that from Munich. You actually do not need to learn too much German (it is good when you do) to get around as most people understand English.
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True. I doubt Messi learned French and he didn't die of starvation for 2 years in France. We are talking about people who are monstrously rich. They can afford to hire servants for all kinds of jobs.
 
Lee565 said:
Levy is delusional, it's as if he thinks spurs are title challenging side or that selling kane to say us or Liverpool would be the main catalyst behind either side beating spurs to ucl football when the reality is spurs will bottle it with or without kane next season, the only difference is both spurs and kane lose out by him staying there next season as spurs potentially will lose him for free and kane spends another season trophy less
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I don’t think so. He’s just trying to get the biggest fee. He can wait a bit and if we get bought by Qatar he’s quids in
 
For Spurs not to sell Kane this summer is madness. £100m fee this season or nothing. It might actually benefit Spurs because their attack has to change. Less reliance on Kane and maybe teams will them unpredictable. Levy is a clown .
 
He can’t possibly sign an extension this year, there’s just no chance of that happening unless he’s insane or manages to negotiate a reasonably release clause within that contract (which I can’t see Levy accepting). Even if he entertains the idea of staying at Spurs he’d be better off playing out the first few months of season and learning whether they are in fact going to be competitive with this new manager and squad changes.
 
Levy has the chance to get a big fee and make sure Kane doesn't play for a rival club, but the idiot is simply to stubborn. No wonder Spurs are stuck in mediocrity
 
He hasn’t told the club he’s not signing anew deal. That’s the key here.
 
All he has to do is refuse an extension and suddenly this becomes a very different saga. Needs to stop being a coward, he owes nothing to Spurs at this point.
 
RC89 said:
If he has any sense he refuses any contract offer. From a footballing or financial point it makes no sense whatsoever. He'll earn less for one season maybe if he doesn't, but the free transfer to a big club next season means he'll cover the difference. And that is precisely why I expect he'll go on to sign a new five year with Levy.
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Every year is very valuable to him right now, he doesn't have many left at the highest level and if he wants to win trophies then he will want to act sooner than later.
 
I wonder what players think about moving to Spurs these days?

They see stories about Levy outright rejecting any moves to ‘PL rivals’ and yet they’re never in the picture of winning the league or cup titles.

Players surely can’t see them as a ‘stepping stone’ club because of this?
 
He needs to go into Levy’s office and say he’ll stay but he intends to move to United next season. Surely the prat wouldn’t turn down a huge fee only to see him join United 12 months later.
 
Ringol said:
I wrote that according to the bookmakers odds from last season. I didn't want to use the current ones, as the transfer window can shuffle the odds of individual clubs considerably. HERE are odds for last season from site you provided. Tottenham were ranked higher than United. A year ago it was certain that Kane would be a Spurs player. Anyway, it doesn't matter. 2% Spurs or 7% United is still like a drop in the ocean. Quick maths, statistically with those odds, Kane would need to play 14 seasons at United to win Premier League.
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Your posts in this thread were bad anyway, but did you just added probabilities here? ‘Look I am smart, know probabilities and other shit’ to then proceed to add probabilities while adding statistically there. The only thing it shows is that your math skills are not much better than posting skills.
 
DavelinaJolie said:
It would be a very Kane thing to do now and give in to the man who has stood in the way of him moving to a better club twice, by signing an extension.
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They - an argentinian source - are the only ones reporting this... About a club based in Munich without ties to Argentina.
 
Suedesi said:
Our club can't sell for shit. They had one of the most iconic footballers in the world leave for free midseason and able to get a bumper contract of 200m per season.

An astute club would have been able to claw a transfer from that deal.

Whereas Chelsea are able to get money for Mendy and Koulibaly...
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Who in the world would have spent money on a past it egomaniac who everyone knew we wanted out post-haste?
 
Imagine kane and mbappe both being free agents next summer, only concern as united fan with everything we have had witness over the past 10 years with our noisy neighbours is that they end up signing both of them on free
 
Jericholyte2 said:
I wonder what players think about moving to Spurs these days?

They see stories about Levy outright rejecting any moves to ‘PL rivals’ and yet they’re never in the picture of winning the league or cup titles.

Players surely can’t see them as a ‘stepping stone’ club because of this?
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It depends how much of it is posturing, I guess. There's a chance Levy's behaviour is designed to get Kane to hand in a transfer request and push hard to leave so he has a ready made excuse to present to the Spurs fans if and when Kane does leave.

If he isn't prepared to let Kane go under any circumstances, that's a different story. I certainly wouldn't want to move to Spurs if I was a player in that position, but that decision is made easier by the fact that there's very little sporting merit behind that decision right now. They've gone backwards and there's a number of other Premier League clubs who represent more attractive propositions than they do atm.
 
Revan said:
Your posts in this thread were bad anyway, but did you just added probabilities here? ‘Look I am smart, know probabilities and other shit’ to then proceed to add probabilities while adding statistically there. The only thing it shows is that your math skills are not much better than posting skills.
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Using the page he provided, Tottenham's title chances for the current season are 2% (1/50), United 7% (1/14). If you think I am counting wrong, please write what the correct calculation should be.
 
Lee565 said:
Imagine kane and mbappe both being free agents next summer, only concern as united fan with everything we have had witness over the past 10 years with our noisy neighbours is that they end up signing both of them on free
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Rashford also didn’t yet sign a new contract…
 
United NEED to put a bid in, seriously
 
That’s not even 70 mil £. It will get rejected unless the add-ins are 10 mil for each BL title.
 
UnitedSofa said:
United NEED to put a bid in, seriously
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they would need to blow any Bayern bid out of the water and not even close. You either make a bid that he can’t refuse or it’s pointless. It comes down to if we have the funds, especially where FFP is concerned. I think we might make the base signings we need and then sell some players and go in for him later in window.. but that’s just speculation. For levy to listen to us you’re talking 100mil minimum.
 
90 mil euros with add ons? IF that is the price, we should ditch Hojlund and pay for Kane.
I bet that with new owner we would be all over this deal.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
90 mil euros with add ons? IF that is the price, we should ditch Hojlund and pay for Kane.
I bet that with new owner we would be all over this deal.
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Levy wouldn't sell Kane to us for that price, though. He'd much rather sell to Bayern, even if he is getting less money.
 
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