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They no longer make the Challenger 2 do they? Maybe they should restart production or is there another one in the works or something?
 
TwoSheds said:
They no longer make the Challenger 2 do they? Maybe they should restart production or is there another one in the works or something?
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There is a Challenger 3 project. But interestingly it wouldn't mean producing new tanks, but refurbishing the existing Challenger 2 fleet - key point would be replacing the gun, effectively taking this "sniper" ability away from it, by using the 120mm/L55A1 smoothbore gun. Which is the same (but modernized) gun the Leopard 2 and M1 Abrams use. This would effectively bring the British tank fleet to NATO standard and ease cooperation, but it also changes it's abilities a bit.
 
stefan92 said:
There is a Challenger 3 project. But interestingly it wouldn't mean producing new tanks, but refurbishing the existing Challenger 2 fleet - key point would be replacing the gun, effectively taking this "sniper" ability away from it, by using the 120mm/L55A1 smoothbore gun. Which is the same (but modernized) gun the Leopard 2 and M1 Abrams use. This would effectively bring the British tank fleet to NATO standard and ease cooperation, but it also changes it's abilities a bit.
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Perhaps the upgrade ought to be to the Leopard and Abrams...
 


Russia building modern Flaktürme, following the Nazi blueprint.

In combination with the reappearance of TB2s as offensive weapons I guess it is safe to conclude now that Russia is truly running out of air defense systems. They can't defend both the front and it's own cities.
 
Is a Pantsir an automated cannon system then?
 
If anyone thought Erdogan is a friend of the west because he released some Mariupol defenders. He is a piece of shite who plays both sides for his own benefit, he will never change.
 
"We spit on Western sanctions."
"Let me speak. Otherwise, you will really hear what Russian Grad missiles are capable of."
"Morons" - preceded by an expletive.
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In the newly published interview, the pilot also pushed back against Russian misinformation about the invasion of Ukraine.

“The truth is, there are no Nazis or fascists here. It’s a real disgrace what is happening here. Murder, tears, blood. People are simply killing each other. That’s all I can make of this and I don’t want to be a part of it,” he said.
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That high-level cases of corruption are coming to light is positive, said Andrii Borovyk, director of Transparency International in Ukraine, rather than an indication of a nation bogged down by insider dealing; it shows that the country can fight the war and graft at the same time, he said.

“Scandals are good,” he said. “The war,” Mr. Borovyk added, “cannot be an excuse to stop fighting corruption.”
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It should be clear to anyone with a bit of brain cells, of course that UA loss can be high too.

It's why I find it weird that people think the UA won't seek to end the war by some diplomatic way that would be backed by major powers from both sides. It may be why the U.S is pushing them to focus and capture some southern territories to bring Putin to the table on the UA terms. Whether Putin will come by then is a different topic altogether but they have to try it.

All these let UA do their way is ridiculous because the U.S could stop supporting them altogether after the next election and then what? It is even questionable for the next year with the current political situation in the house.
 
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For those who frequent r/combatfootage, in the past days 2 new Bayrakter videos were uploaded.

 
Good to see them in the fight at least. Presumably, the media and whoever is going to make a massive fuss about it being the first one ever destroyed, and its loss in general without knowing anything about what it accomplished.

 
Simbo said:
Good to see them in the fight at least. Presumably, the media and whoever is going to make a massive fuss about it being the first one ever destroyed, and its loss in general without knowing anything about what it accomplished.

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The most important question is what happened to the crew. Did they survive this? If yes then it did well despite getting lost. And considering that so far no Leo 2 crew member died there is hope that the Challenger also protects its crew well enough against Russian weapons
 
stefan92 said:
The most important question is what happened to the crew. Did they survive this? If yes then it did well despite getting lost. And considering that so far no Leo 2 crew member died there is hope that the Challenger also protects its crew well enough against Russian weapons
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Would think highly likely unless it's a direct artillery hit, the issue with the Russian tanks is the ammo has an autoloader from what I read so a good hit will cause the whole thing to explode, the turret to usually pop off and the crew have no chance. Challenger's have ammo that explodes outwards so might well be what we're seeing in the vid (Forbes article was where I read this)
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Would think highly likely unless it's a direct artillery hit, the issue with the Russian tanks is the ammo has an autoloader from what I read so a good hit will cause the whole thing to explode, the turret to usually pop off and the crew have no chance. Challenger's have ammo that explodes outwards so might well be what we're seeing in the vid (Forbes article was where I read this)
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True, but it has to be said that an autoloader as such is not the problem, but the fact that the currently used T-tanks store their ammo in the same area the crew populates. It is possible to build autoloaders that also utilize safe storage compartments and blowout panels.

Western designs like the French Leclerc or the projected German KF51 use such designs for an autoloader, which is much safer for the crew - and the Russian T-14 actually does that in a way as well, simply by using an unmanned turret.
 
It's Jewish Nazis time again, so nobody forgets Russia's rightous cause. Let's see when they start talking about hidden bio labs again. Seems like there is a lack of new ideas for the genocidal war.

 
Of course the Russian embassy was gonna jump on the Challenger tank loss.

 
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