Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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As in they were sanctioned, but now the sanctions have been dropped? Or "they have dropped sanctions on their asses"?
Would be great if Yanks could speak English.
Dropped as in "we put sanctions on them". So they are getting sanctioned.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-sanctions-members-of-russian-cybercrime-gang
UN working on guarantees for Russia to restore grain deal but Moscow skeptical
https://www.reuters.com/markets/com...store-grain-deal-moscow-skeptical-2023-09-07/
My pop worked in procurement for the Phalanx CIWS during his time at Raytheon as one of his projects. He & other colleagues flew out west to some desert to watch live trials & he was blown away at the sheer destruction that thing caused.
This seemed a little like the Phalanx but with individual barrels.
What a narcissistic cnut.
What a piece of shit. I know many americans react allergic to any kind of government control, but in my opinion such technologies shouldn't be in private hands, or at least the decision making must be made by the democratically elected government and not some unhinged narcissist, regardless of whether he made the technology in the first place.
Essential services should absolutely be in government hands, and it might be necessary to nationalize things like Starlink in the future. Good luck getting the Americans on board, though, as you say.
Always funny when Russians realize what other people think of them.
So you wish for businesses not be able to develop technology and if they do the State has to have control over it? Sounds like a CCP dream.
Raytheon can't sell weapons to anyone they want, among many restrictions, Starlink may need similar rules.
Ukraine is not allowed to use Starlink for military strikes, considering it is part of a civilian company, it's likely off limits by ITAR restrictions.
The last thing SpaceX wants to be classified as a DoD contractor under ITAR, which would get them basically banned across the entire planet.
What this tweet is, is clickbait/propaganda. They KNOW, legally, SpaceX can't allow this... But that doesn't stop them from trying to use it to do more "Musk Bad" tweets and articles.
At the end of the day, SpaceX isn't trying to become a defense contractor which would shut them out from all international contracts and being able to do business with the public.
At the end ot the day its a commercial communication network , very different from weapons technologies. What the US government will probably do, is build their own constellation of similar capability. It is evident that they are missing this broadband functionality.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/08/russia-ukraine-defense-counteroffensive
This is insane - a terrible, trench war that should be brought to an end
This is insane - a terrible, trench war that should be brought to an end
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/08/russia-ukraine-defense-counteroffensive
This is insane - a terrible, trench war that should be brought to an end
It will only end when Russia leave Ukrainian territory.
I agree. Putin should pull out immediately.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/08/russia-ukraine-defense-counteroffensive
This is insane - a terrible, trench war that should be brought to an end
Tesla/starlink aren't a weapons producer.
Starlink withholding it's services to prevent an attack on the Black sea fleet is a wee bit different in my opinion. I'd imagine he's protecting his business interests. Maybe the US government can share their similar technology as they don't really care if they upset Putin and Co.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/08/russia-ukraine-defense-counteroffensive
This is insane - a terrible, trench war that should be brought to an end
True, Russia should leave Ukraine asap.
Un can't do that on its own
They already did.
Within days of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Mr. Musk sent Starlink terminals to the country in response to public pleas from Ukrainian officials. Throughout the war, the connectivity provided by Starlink has been pivotal for Ukraine to coordinate drone strikes and gather intelligence.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/world/europe/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine.html#:~:text=Within days of Russia's full,drone strikes and gather intelligence.
Correct, Elon sent Starlink terminals which offer online connection via orbiting satellites. From day 1, it was made clear that these cannot be used for offensive attacks that kill people. This isn't even the first time SpaceX had to pull the plug; it has happened many times, and it's not a new thing or regulation. The purpose of allowing them to use Starlink was to give them a massive advantage to bypass Russian aggression that was cutting off their communication infrastructure, which was a critical part in Ukraine being able to defend themselves. Ukraine knows that they can't be using Starlink for offensive military purposes.
From the very article you referenced:
"Mr. Musk said last week on Twitter that SpaceX was “not allowing Starlink to be used for long-range drone strikes.” And on Wednesday, Gwynne Shotwell, Starlink’s president and chief operating officer, said at a conference in Washington that Starlink was “never meant to be weaponized.” Ukraine, Ms. Shotwell said, had leveraged the technology “in ways that were unintentional and not part of any agreement,” according to Reuters. She added that Starlink had taken steps to curtail the Ukrainian military’s use of the technology for controlling drones.
Ukrainian officials on Thursday responded with a mix of anger and diplomacy, though they did not directly address the claims." Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, tagged Ms. Shotwell in a Twitter post, saying that companies are either on the side of Ukraine and “the right to freedom,” or they are on the Russia’s side and the “right to kill and seize territories.” Starlink, he said, “should choose a specific option.” Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine’s digital minister who helped facilitate the first delivery of Starlink terminals to Ukraine after the invasion, struck a more conciliatory tone. “Elon Musk is one of the biggest private donors of our future victory,” he said, with SpaceX contributing more than $100 million, according to the government’s estimates. “We hope for further stable work of Starlinks in Ukraine,” Mr. Fedorov added in a statement. He said there has so far been no disruption of the Starlink system in Ukraine.
So, Ukraine 100% knows what the terms of the agreement are; it is spelled out. This isn't the first time SpaceX has had to do this. But Ukraine tried to do it anyways. But when you're running secret clandestine operations, you aren't necessarily going to follow the rules. But you can't complain afterwards.
Sure, if you can win of the battleground you can dictate terms.
In the real world, after a long stalemate, you settle for what you have.
US will sue for peace, Putin will get what he wanted (Crimea + Donetsk + Luhansk, plus security guarantees that Ukraine will not join NATO), and Little Jakie, Vicky and Teeny Tony have lost yet another war after spending close to $100Bn.
And that's when you wake up and stare at your Elon as iron-man live sized poster .
Odd that you interpret it this way rather than "We helped Ukraine defend itself against an invasion."
Interpreting it any other way would require having at least a trace amount of empathy.
So the Starlink was so Ukraine could defend itself. But that can’t mean killing people. Yeah, my opinion of Elon remains unchanged.
Can someone translate this to adult for me?
I genuinely don’t think even the poster knows, bizarre post.
I don't follow, can you elaborate?
You're out of your mind if you think Ukraine would ever sign a deal that surrenders land and keeps them out of NATO.