Westminster Politics

Fluctuation0161 said:
He just doesn't care, I don't think he gives it much thought.

The Tories don't care about much. The North is just another topic they don't care about unless it benefits them politically or financially.
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Oh, but they do, but it's about their future prospects!
Sunak knows he won't win the next GE, but if he can stop Starmer getting a sizeable majority, he will have something to appeal to 'bedrock' Tories about, persuade them to 'hold fast', don't get swayed by the smiling Sir Keir.... and that will be achieved (he believes) by returning Tories to their old mantra/battle cry "We are the party of cutting Taxes".

The best Labour can do on this is to promise they wont put them up, it was what 'hamstrung' Blair and he wasn't facing the same economic issues we are at present.
Sunak will risk the wrath of the north/redwall etc.by cutting the HS2 link to Manchester (and beyond) because realistically by getting that HS2 (estimated) £100B 'monkey off his back', he can then do something on the tax cutting front, not as much as Truss would have done, but just enough to put her and her supporters back in their cage!

The nearer it gets to the GE the more the Sunak led Tories will start to play 'hard ball', they will sacrifice anybody but their own or at least threaten to, so Starmer will have to have 'steel mittens' on to catch and return to the Tories.... with interest if he can.
 
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Ekkie Thump said:
Isn't the idea behind the 15 minute city simply that most amenities should exist within a 15 minute bike ride of most residents?
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No. Well, yes, but in Tory Land they're a test to control the populace. If you can get anything you need within 15 minutes then before you know it the Government will set up blockades and prevent you from going into other "sectors" of your city. And then the bastards will ban you from driving cars anywhere. The bastards.

So fixing potholes (which councils should be fecking doing anyway), killing small children in quiet residential areas with your fast cars, bigotry and conspiracy theories. That's the New Tory way!
 
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Ekkie Thump said:
Isn't the idea behind the 15 minute city simply that most amenities should exist within a 15 minute bike ride of most residents?
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Apparently that is Stalinism.

Also:


Report claiming net zero will cost UK trillions retracted due to ‘factual errors’
Rightwing thinktank Civitas mistakenly cost onshore wind power 10,000 times higher than reality and claimed bill would be £4.5tn

A report that hugely overestimated the cost to the UK of reaching net zero emissions has been retracted by the rightwing thinktank that published it.

The Civitas pamphlet published on Thursday claimed to offer a “realistic” estimate of the cost – £4.5tn – and said “the government needs to be honest with the British people”.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-uk-trillions-retracted-due-to-factual-errors

This thread is excellent:

 
Ekkie Thump said:
Isn't the idea behind the 15 minute city simply that most amenities should exist within a 15 minute bike ride of most residents?
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Having easily accessible public services and amenities is a Stalinist plot, didn't you know?

And reducing asthma rates and other instances of lung conditions is pure communism.
 
Ekkie Thump said:
Isn't the idea behind the 15 minute city simply that most amenities should exist within a 15 minute bike ride of most residents?
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In Oxford the idea is being implemented alongside the introduction of traffic filters designed to limit access to the busiest city centre roads - the two things have been conflated by 15 minute city conspiracy theorists. Even in Oxford the filters won’t stop people accessing any location in the city at any time - they’d just have to go a different route.
 
Eric_the_Red99 said:
In Oxford the idea is being implemented alongside the introduction of traffic filters designed to limit access to the busiest city centre roads - the two things have been conflated by 15 minute city conspiracy theorists. Even in Oxford the filters won’t stop people accessing any location in the city at any time - they’d just have to go a different route.
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They just make city's a nicer place to live.

But now The Torries are appealing to conspiracy theorists. It's a sad place to find one of the world's oldest political parties.
 
Vidyoyo said:
By minimum service time are they referring to better contracts for teaching staff because that might be a good thing for the hourly paid lecturers
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Nope. They mean you cannot strike. Like they want to do with nurses, a strike will mean a minimum proportion of staff cannot join the strike to ensure there is no "disruption". Feck actually paying people.
 
Liz Truss has thick skin you have to hand it to her.
 
So basically the MO for this party conference is - invent a lie/conspiracy, then say how the Tories will fight against it.

Sounds about right.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
So basically the MO for this party conference is - invent a lie/conspiracy, then say how the Tories will fight against it.

Sounds about right.
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Straight out of the Republican's playbook. Detestable people.

I make a point of going on holiday every time these cnuts have their party conference in Manchester just to keep my distance and rage levels down.
 
Frosty said:
Nope. They mean you cannot strike. Like they want to do with nurses, a strike will mean a minimum proportion of staff cannot join the strike to ensure there is no "disruption". Feck actually paying people.
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How it works here is they must provide peak time services. Outside those hours they can strike. For essential services like transport it's a great idea.
 
11101 said:
How it works here is they must provide peak time services. Outside those hours they can strike. For essential services like transport it's a great idea.
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Tell us you don’t understand how strikes work without telling us you don’t understand how strikes work.

Wouldn’t it be better if people said “we’re currently on strike but didn’t actually strike?”
 
11101 said:
How it works here is they must provide peak time services. Outside those hours they can strike. For essential services like transport it's a great idea.
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Kind of defeats the point of striking. Almost like that's why they brought in those laws.
 
Pexbo said:
Tell us you don’t understand how strikes work without telling us you don’t understand how strikes work.

Wouldn’t it be better if people said “we’re currently on strike but didn’t actually strike?”
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You are aware there are already laws surrounding strikes?
 
From anecdotal evidence I think there's a good chance Labour win in mid-Bedfordshire. The Lib Dems started campaigning early and probably had some momentum but I think their campaign has been pretty weak and near enough all based on slagging off the Conservative and saying Labour can't win so vote for us. They've also been caught out by saying the Labour candidate lives in London despite relocating to Bedfordshire a few months ago which makes them look a bit silly.

I think the Labour leaflets have been pretty good and the only candidate that says what they will do, rather than generic "improve cost of living" or "reduce GP wait times". Feel like I'm seeing Labour campaigners out and about everyday in big numbers too.

I've seen very little campaigning from the Conservative but in an area like this, they don't need to go to the same lengths as Labour.
 
nickm said:
That is disgusting.
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I wonder where she learnt that playbook?

Seems to be the same rhetoric you and may others would spout about Corbyn... I suppose the shoe is now on the other foot so we can go back to saying how awful that sort of politics is.
 
FireballXL5 said:
Next up, this bitch.

Kemi Badenoch failed to declare meeting with Rupert Murdoch

Business secretary privately met media mogul in apparent breach of ministerial code of conduct

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...failed-to-declare-meeting-with-rupert-murdoch
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Murdoch was reported by Politico to have questioned Badenoch for 20 minutes in an atmosphere that was said to have been described as akin to a job interview by one of those present.
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The damage this man has done to this country and the Western world is incalculable.
 
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Barclay talking about stopping the NHS from forcing staff to declare their pronouns to patients.

Literally never once been asked to declare my pronouns by anyone, ever.

Making up total nonsense.
 
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