Just lies, and knowing and calculated lies designed to stir up hate - and people are lapping it up.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Just lies, and knowing and calculated lies designed to stir up hate - and people are lapping it up.
Like Oslo agreements? Camp David? I could go on and on. The State of Israel have shown they dont care about agreements and nobody will bring them to order.
Since the Oslo agreement, settlements have trippled
Well it sounds like you're ok with keeping them in Gaza then.
Will be interesting to see how Israeli-Russian relations develop over time. As of now, Israel not pleased. But realpolitik may kick in again eventually.
Putin will obviously look for ways to insert himself into this without being able to actually do anything about it given his ongoing humiliation in Ukraine.
Why though, what's his angle? Please Iran?
Same as it was in Syria. An alternative to the "western" (ie. US) world view where Russia is seen as the great power savior.
It's quite obvious that the fact that Germany criminalizing the denial of Israel's right to exist and the adoption of the IHRA's definition of antisemitism creates distinct boundaries. If the IHRA is indeed (too) biased, despite being an international collaboration then that definitely deserves discussion. But I've skimmed through your links and most of them only tell half of the story.
E.g. Axel Springer:
It's a private (scum) company, so they are free to set their own political agenda. Much like I wouldn't expect a lot of pro Israeli content on some of the pages you linked. Reading some of the posts in this thread I'm also not inclined to automatically believe someone, who said he was fired despite doing nothing wrong: people, whose believes cross lines, rarely see themselves in the wrong.
Now the DW story didn't start with that Palestinian journalist winning her suit in a German court. It started when one of the bigger papers reported that DW's Beirut correspondent tweeted "Anyone involved with the Israelis is a collaborator and any recruit in the ranks of their army is a traitor and must be executed", about other Arabs. They also alleged that he spoked quite fondly of Hisbollah and Hassan Nasrallah in some of his previous tweets and reports.
They also found some employees denying the Holocaust. After which they asked whether €400m of tax money were well spent on these people.
So that's why they updated their code of conduct and that's why they had that external antisemitism audit. Though of course it seems fair to criticize their picks for the job, after all the court proved that they overstepped in some cases.
Scholz's remarks aren't really aimed at Palestinians per se. Immigration is the hot topic of the moment. The AfD are getting around 20%, there was a poll even before the attacks that had about 80% express their dissatisfaction with the country's immigration policy and in particular with the efforts to deport people, who were denied asylum status.
Samidoun were already under watch for extremism and made national headlines for celebrating on the streets on 07.10. distributing sweets. Forgive me for not feeling sorry for its supporters.
I'm sure there are also plenty of cases where people get unjustly accused and harassed by authorities. But maybe it would help if people didn't deliberately pick the most biased sources to shape their world view. Like a couple of days ago someone showed like half a dozen tweets of one of the electronicintifada guys directly supporting Hamas. But sure, these are the guys, who will tell you exactly what's going on in Germany and elsewhere.
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Hamas staged a super effective attack on a much more powerful neighbour, whilst keeping their intentions secret from one of the best surveillance states in the world. I'm guessing he's wanting to learn from Hamas' attack.
But it's also solidifying what is pretty clear to most, the new anti-west/Democratic axis that exists. Iran and their Palestinian proxies are clearly on the side of Russia.
If israel would not be in israel they would not get killed in october 7? What kind of logic is that?
Well we could ask Israel to cease fire and stop behaving like a big baby. Violence has not brought peace for 80 years and nor will it this time. But it is ok, we know the life of an Israeli is worth more than the life of Palestinians. We know that only Israelis are deserving of a life of dignity and prosperity, Palestinians are ''sub humans'' that should live in a refugee camp without dignity.
That’s why we said short of a bombing ceasefire, this would be the best option. The Israelis have already started their ground incursion so a ceasefire isn’t likely anytime soon.
there was a ceasefire on 6th October.
Of 240 palestinian deaths in 2023. Kids included
Market communism. Tito invented it.
Is there any point of this kind of glib post? Would be just as pointless to retort that it sounds like you're OK with ethnic cleansing then.
'Easily mitigated', give me strength.
It’s not glib at all. It’s reality. Not allowing civilians to leave is tantamount to keeping them in danger.
Also posted in the Islamophobia thread:
Not sure where to post this.
So the 2 lads next to me brought in a Palestine flag to the game today. Waived it for a few mins at half time. They got kicked out. It says on the united website you’re allowed to bring flags in.
Another incident. A friend of mine got exec seats. He was wearing Palestine colours (a hoodie). Initially refused entry before a senior said it was fine. The person who refused threatened to quit if he was allowed entry. Fortunately he was allowed. Good luck to her with her new job.
Not sure where to post this.
So the 2 lads next to me brought in a Palestine flag to the game today. Waived it for a few mins at half time. They got kicked out. It says on the united website you’re allowed to bring flags in.
Another incident. A friend of mine got exec seats. He was wearing Palestine colours (a hoodie). Initially refused entry before a senior said it was fine. The person who refused threatened to quit if he was allowed entry. Fortunately he was allowed. Good luck to her with her new job.
Modern democratic world for you.
You do realise Israel created this open air prison right? So not only do they get to callously create this open air prison, they also get to bomb it into oblivion and then you’re here asking the residents who have suffered so much already to leave their homes, all 2.4 millions of them, so Israel can what, swoop in and claim the land for themselves?
If we're getting into optimism and hope, it's probably Marwan Barghouti being let out of jail, winning elections and becoming the next Arafat and a peace deal somehow being brokered with the leverage of the Americans threatening to cut funding to Israel if they don't make one, but then again I also hope United win the treble this season.
They're not bombing Hamas targets - they're bombing hospitals, schools, mosques, residential buildings. It's wanton destruction, and there's plenty of evidence to prove it.
Even if somehow, you can use your mental gymnastics to make a claim that all these buildings are Hamas run (they're not) - they've still murdered 60+ UN / humanitarian workers, around 20ish journalists (and in one case the journo's family), and 3,000 children and 2,000 women. So, you're misrepresented choice makes no sense.
He knows full well what answer he's going to get, he's been asking variations of it for days now.
Netanyahu and his cronies have been doing what they could to ensure Hamas remains in power in Gaza because having that threat around benefits them. They were perfectly willing to accept occassional rocket barrages, because it A) meant they could say "see, they're dangerous and you need us to protect you from them" and B) gave them cover for continuing their horrendous treatment of the Palestinian people, and especially the Gazans. If there's one conspiracy surrounding this that I'm willing to believe, it's that Netanyahu allowed the attack to happen (though I don't expect he had any inkling as to how bad it would end up being) because he believed it would give them the international cover they needed to rid Gaza of Palestinians once and for all.
Regardless, the fact that they've now been given carte blanche to massacre Palestinians because their rabid dog broke its leash is completely insane.
He's an Assad defender which is a cruel irony. I think there's quite a few who have spent the last decade almost defending or outright denying the massacres Assad has authorised in Syria.
More than a few turned their heads away from Assad's atrocities in this country too. They know who they are.
This but also the irony that the closest fascist government we currently have to the Nazis is this Israeli one (and possibly Modi’s lot).
That probably didn't solve it, because your issue is that you can't access his profile page due to privacy settings, and therefore can't physically access the ignore button, right? As in, you're just getting the "access denied" screen.
The profile address is this: https://www.redcafe.net/members/ragnar123.121593/. If you add on "ignore" to the end, then that will fix it. Or just click this: https://www.redcafe.net/members/ragnar123.121593/ignore
Mossad, Shin Bet, & the Aman have all looked far less qualified than their previous rep made the world think.
He's quite something.
Quite disappointing.
Yeah, it was exactly as you described it.
I hit a brick wall with your first option but the alternative worked a treat. My eyes will be able to get a rest now.
I honestly wish for an option to directly put a poster on ignore without having to access to their profile first.
Thanks mate, you're the man.
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Insightful from previous US state department director
No worries, was corrected myself many moons ago & just paying it forward.
Bullshit this isn't enough. This should have been in bold and all caps.