Westminster Politics

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It is amazing that Susan Hall has survived in politics for so long. 6 years in the London Assembly and she has nothing to show for it.

And keeping the tradition of each tory candidate being worse than the previous one alive, the only viable option for the next elections is Tony Devenish.
 
Did anyone listen to King Charles reading out the King Speech today.
He couldn't have sounded any less enthusiastic if he tried.
It didn't take a genius to realise that he was totally unimpressed by the government legislation plans.
 
Buster15 said:
Did anyone listen to King Charles reading out the King Speech today.
He couldn't have sounded any less enthusiastic if he tried.
It didn't take a genius to realise that he was totally unimpressed by the government legislation plans.
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Hardly surprising given his past comments on political issues + I bet Billy and Kate have been bending his ear about the homeless tent thing
 
The Corinthian said:
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And he is quite correct about that.
People should not be banned from protesting. And I am sure that the vast majority will do so respectfully taking account of the Armistice Day tradition.
I have read that you have already been to many of these.
So will you be attending on Sunday. And if so, hopefully it passes without any adverse problems.
 
Buster15 said:
And he is quite correct about that.
People should not be banned from protesting. And I am sure that the vast majority will do so respectfully taking account of the Armistice Day tradition.
I have read that you have already been to many of these.
So will you be attending on Sunday. And if so, hopefully it passes without any adverse problems.
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The Palestinian protest isn't even taking place on the Sunday (Remembrance Sunday). It's on Saturday and it's taking place a few hours after the 2 minute silence on the Saturday.

What we're seeing is the British government (and a few other factions) trying to whip up some nationalism, and using jingoistic tropes to make what have been largely peaceful protests into something a bit more fractious.

There's also been a few 'call to arms' from far right groups (EDL, and another one called 'Football Lads Alliance') to defend the cenotaph on the Sunday (again, there's no protest on the Sunday), but knowing their ilk, they'll turn up on the Saturday as well to provoke.

Edit: And yes, I'll most likely be attending (on the Saturday).
 
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The Corinthian said:
The Palestinian protest isn't even taking place on the Sunday. It's on Saturday and it's taking place a few hours after the 2 minute silence on the Saturday.

What we're seeing is the British government (and a few other factions) trying to whip up some nationalism, and using jingoistic tropes to make what have been largely peaceful protests into something a bit more fractious.

There's also been a few 'call to arms' from far right groups (EDL, and another one called 'Football Lads Alliance') to defend the cenotaph on the Sunday (again, there's no protest on the Sunday), but knowing their ilk, they'll turn up on the Saturday as well to provoke.

Edit: And yes, I'll most likely be attending (on the Saturday).
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Thanks for clarifying that. I had been going by what the news media has been saying. Should know better.
Let's hope that those you mentioned don't achieve their stated aims and don't allow the government and police to turn a peaceful protest into something nasty.
 
The Corinthian said:
@Buster15 - Here's some more info on the far right groups - the Met has identified the far right as being the main probable cause of any social disruption:

Far-right and football hooligans main risk of public disorder at pro-Palestinian march, police fear (inews.co.uk)
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Thanks again.
To be honest, I find it sickening that these groups of people are trying to take advantage of the suffering that is going on in Gaza for their own ends.
But I am not at all surprised. So I really do hope that the protest on Saturday in aid of calling for a ceasefire and showing support for the Palestinians doesn't end badly.
 
Private WhatsApp leaks. Tories hate each other now

 
Braverman is making it too obvious now that she wants violence to erupt this weekend.

 
Cruella is desperate for violence & has done nothing but add fuel to the fire. Despicable cnut.
 
Hearing the home secretary's comments, my initial reaction was feck this country if that's how the govt view us and treat us.

But then that's what she wants, just look on twitter, all kinds of racists have been emboldened. She is trying to start a full on race war in this country. And she's brown, and the pm too...
 
I find Sunak more despicable. Even Liz Truss in the dying days of her premiership, sacked this cnut.
 
I kind of wish there was a rule that if you get sacked from government you don't get to come back but then there would be nobody left.
 
I mean, it's fairly obvious that this government is agitating for a bit of violence so they can feed the outrage machine and further enflame the culture war. Only way they can cling on to power.
 
Ekkie Thump said:
I mean, it's fairly obvious that this government is agitating for a bit of violence so they can feed the outrage machine and further enflame the culture war. Only way they can cling on to power.
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I think it's more likely than not that they as a government are wanting to put pressure on the police to ban the demonstration, however Braverman has her own agenda and knows whether she is sacked or not she's strengthening her position in the party by weakening Sunak and being the new Loony candidate for the hard right to wank over
 
She’s also trying her best to get sacked. British politics is in the gutter.
Imagine intentionally trying to get sacked at your job. Everyone of us would be blacklisted and would not get another job again.
but a minister of HRH can sabotage, get sacked and end up with a promotion. It’s ridiculous.
 
Adisa said:
She’s also trying her best to get sacked. British politics is in the gutter.
Imagine intentionally trying to get sacked at your job. Everyone of us would be blacklisted and would not get another job again.
but a minister of HRH can sabotage, get sacked and end up with a promotion. It’s ridiculous.
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Sunak knows that sacking her would cause a revolt by the ERG and likely end his Premiership. He also knows that he’s so weak that keeping her will just continue to damage him.

Nadine Dorries was on a self promo tour on BBC breakfast this morning and she claimed that Braveman has no chance anyway and that Kemi Badenoch has been groomed to take over for a long while now.
 
Pexbo said:
Sunak knows that sacking her would cause a revolt by the ERG and likely end his Premiership. He also knows that he’s so weak that keeping her will just continue to damage him.

Nadine Dorries was on a self promo tour on BBC breakfast this morning and she claimed that Braveman has no chance anyway and that Kemi Badenoch has been groomed to take over for a long while now.
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:lol: how depressing that there are three names and it's hard to find a redeemable feature in any of them. The future is rotten.
 
Ekkie Thump said:
I mean, it's fairly obvious that this government is agitating for a bit of violence so they can feed the outrage machine and further enflame the culture war. Only way they can cling on to power.
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Exactly.
And Braverman is trying to justify her ridiculous decisions and speeches by becoming ever more extreme.
She is a thoroughly vile individual.
 
About time she was called out publicly by the opposition and legitimate news organisations, as the vile racist cnut that she really is.

It astounds me that these publicly elected officials can spew this bile without fear of repercussion. Would absolutely love for her to get a taste of her own medicine someday. Absolute fecking scum!
 
She's a skidmark on modern politics.

It's clear she is pitching to get the leadership post Sunak by demonstrating to the noncey, old racist white guys that run the Tory party that she will do exactly as they wish, however extreme.

Clear she is basically ticking boxes at this point.
  • Remove civil liberties, protesting/police bills.
  • Remove Government transparency, stop FOIR.
  • Gut and destroy immigration system.
  • Ejection from ECHR
  • Privatising the NHS
  • Cutting welfare to zero
It's all a play and it's surreal and grim.
 
I know she's in a safe Tory seat, but there really needs to be a concentrated effort to remove Bravermann and her ilk at the next GE. Labour and the Lib Dems need to come to some sort of under the table agreement as both of them are pretty much neck and neck in terms of proportional support in her constituency.

Horrid cnuts like Raab, Dorries and my own MP have deprived us of the satisfaction of enjoying their Portillo moment, so what I would give seeing Bravermann subjected to the same humiliation. Yes I know they'd likely parachute her into another safe seat, but that would be another humiliation in itself.
 
Kaos said:
I know she's in a safe Tory seat, but there really needs to be a concentrated effort to remove Bravermann and her ilk at the next GE. Labour and the Lib Dems need to come to some sort of under the table agreement as both of them are pretty much neck and neck in terms of proportional support in her constituency.

Horrid cnuts like Raab, Dorries and my own MP have deprived us of the satisfaction of enjoying their Portillo moment, so what I would give seeing Bravermann subjected to the same humiliation. Yes I know they'd likely parachute her into another safe seat, but that would be another humiliation in itself.
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Honestly don’t think there are any “safe seats” for the Tories this next general election. Tory voter turn out will be so low, there might some that can hold their nose and vote Labour or Lib Deb but I expect most will just stay at home.
 
Pexbo said:
Honestly don’t think there are any “safe seats” for the Tories this next general election. Tory voter turn out will be so low, there might some that can hold their nose and vote Labour or Lib Deb but I expect most will just stay at home.
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Perhaps, but she does seem to command a far healthier majority than her colleagues.

I'm also weary of the shy Tory effect possibly giving her a bit of a lifeline at the ballot box.
 
The mad thing is no one even remotely mentioned or thought about violence when discussing this March until Braverman raised her ugly head.
 
Adisa said:
The mad thing is no one even remotely mentioned or thought about violence when discussing this March until Braverman raised her ugly head.
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The right wing would love nothing more than violence after which they can say "I told you so"
 
Braverman is genuinely unhinged. Thank feck this government's on it's last legs.

She's also inadvertently the best advert for these weekend's marches organizers could hope for :lol:
 
groovyalbert said:
She's also inadvertently the best advert for these weekend's marches organizers could hope for
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I don’t think so. Because of her, cnuts like Tommy Robinson are going there to look for trouble. The focus is no more about Palestine.
 
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