Same as with Palestine people in Gaza. Too bad these Ruskis know how to fight.
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Same as with Palestine people in Gaza. Too bad these Ruskis know how to fight.
Is Ukraine Israel in your example?
Stefan that's a significant assumption: "they focused much more on their Air Force."
Best estimates are we run out of all guided munitions in a large conventional war in about a month. Simply put, U.S. military is not structured to fight or support an extended conflict.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/rebuilding-us-inventories-six-critical-systems
This entire argument is misleading because the weapons you're citing are largely based around old warfighting strategies where armor and artillery were prominently used against the likes of Iraq 30 and 20 years ago. There have since been two major revisions in US warfighting doctrine which don't involve many of the above weapons because the latest strategy is built around data supremacy, not the old, outdated notions of two armies battling it out via tanks and artillery. This is also not coincidentally is giving some of its existing stocks to the Ukrainians and not replenishing them in their entirety.
No. Not at all. Just suggesting what should be done against unhinged Russians.
Yawn.
So, again, anything from the 20s specifically illuminating this massive money laundering scheme you purport is happening?
Sure - I get that. The U.S. had an inflection point in the early '90s with the defeat of the USSR, the unipolar moment, etc. The Pentagon needed to discard the two-and-a-half war doctrine and gear up to fight insurgencies instead. The Pentagon also went through a rapid consolidation of the defense sector, which inadvertently weakened the defense industrial base, followed by a decline in preparation for large-scale conventional warfare, as attention was diverted to smaller, more asymmetrical conflicts. This has led to a gap in addressing capabilities and alliances of major state actors.
And the problem is that our opponents didn't stand still. Thirty years later they are stronger than in the '90s, and in an alliance. In a conflict with Russia or China, when they too possess nukes, hypersonic and long-range precision-guided missiles, ECM, air defense systems, and plenty of drones, how do you battle it out? Do you battle it out?
Asked and answered.
But you're the type of troll that even when presented with cold hard data in other threads, resorts to snidey remarks, so I am not sure you're worth my time.
Figured you were a DYOR proponent. Typical escape hatch. Nothing even remotely close to being germane to the issue.
So, it's nothing more than a regurgitated right wing trope talking point then. Sounds about right.
How do you get said talking points, via fax, Whatsapp, Telegram? What's the frequency?
It's gotta be draining having to go to bat with the same debunked shit every day.
Liberation of Kherson city was a year ago.
Imagine the stockpiles it would need to keep the entire US military firing for over a month. And how much keeping that stockpile would have cost over the previous 78 years... It's a mute point anyway because no country that doesn't have nukes could survive a month of the US throwing everything at it anyway.Stefan that's a significant assumption: "they focused much more on their Air Force."
Best estimates are we run out of all guided munitions in a large conventional war in about a month. Simply put, U.S. military is not structured to fight or support an extended conflict.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/rebuilding-us-inventories-six-critical-systems
And barely any changes to the front-lines since then ... just Bakhmut meatgrinder.
I know no one likes to hear this, but given the situation in Middle East, upcming US and European elections, and latest hints and groans among the Western politicians, I can see them pushing Ukraine to enter negotiations within the next 6 months. I'm sure ukraine will ask for one more chance at a counter-offensive in Spring/Summer 2024, but what guarantee that it'll succeed? The 2023 one has had the frontlines changed by ~15-20km at cost of 70,000 AFU soldiers (including 2 family members of the Ukrainians I know here in Canada)....I have a feeling some serious conversations will be had about this war soon.
"U.S. and European officials have begun quietly talking to the Ukrainian government about what possible peace negotiations with Russia might entail to end the war, according to one current senior U.S. official and one former senior U.S. official."
Recommending negotiations isn’t going to change the Ukrainians’ minds on fighting though. As long as morale remains sufficiently high, they have the weapons and manpower-and they are committed to getting their land back, they will continue to fight.
Them getting the weapons is heavily dependent on Western support continuing though. I'm not saying it won't....but let's not pretend that Ukraine has the finances or the domestic defence industry to arm themselves independently for this war.
We know the US elections pose a big threat to Ukraine (and the world). Its ok to say that, but Ukraine doesn't seek peace just cos US pulls funding, not a chance. There's been 100 articles like that since this started and there will be plenty more. On the off chance those stories are true, we know US is full of nutjob/compromised "officials" willing to earn a buck.
How Ukraine, With No Warships, Is Thwarting Russia’s Navy
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/12/world/europe/ukraine-navy-admiral-black-sea.html
Can anyone explain me the point of negotiations when Russia openly keeps saying that it won’t stop until Ukraine is taken? Sure, let’s give them a few years to fully regroup/ recover to have another go? For the Kremlin regime a sovereign Ukraine is not an option. The sad thing is that White House still after 2 years of war haven’t set Ukrainian victory as a military goal as reflected by the scope and quantity of weapons provided. Lack of political will in Biden admin is disheartening to see.
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The assumption is probably that Russian officials are spouting these things for domestic consumption etc and they're not to be taken seriously.
In other words, people believe Putin would in fact sit down for negotiations if Ukraine proposed to negotiate.
Putin doesn't believe that Ukraine is a real country, or that Ukrainians are its own group of people.
What is there to negotiate over with someone like that?
He would just regroup, build up forces, and try again in a few years.
What is there to negotiate over with someone like that?
He would just regroup, build up forces, and try again in a few years.
If the US sent those F-16s earlier, we may not have this conversation as that would have meant clearer skies for the UA to launch helicopter-airborne operations behind Russian lines.
We can say ill about the current American doctrine, but we have to remember that it was first created on purpose for the sake of avoiding the kind of losses that plagued US forces in the Korean War and then in the Vietnam War. And besides, that same doctrine crushed 2 armies with Soviet doctrine and equipment in the 1990s. Wars are (almost) always won when one side has better mobility than the other.
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That's precisely why the Ukrainians shouldn't fall for it. Stopping now to assuage the political interests of foreign politicians would only allow Putin to claim victory, re-arm himself, then go for more in a few years.
Opposing negotiations would make sense if Ukraine had a clear path to victory - which is reconquering areas where ethnic Russians live. The defeat would have to be so decisive that no Russian leader ever dares to attack again.
The way Russians are positioned, two “possibilities” exist:
1. Push Russians back to original borders in one mighty offensive.
2. Never accept negotiations and just keep attacking until Russians run out of resources to defend the gains and eventually break and give up.
I mean, good luck.
The way Russians are positioned, two “possibilities” exist:
1. Push Russians back to original borders in one mighty offensive.
2. Never accept negotiations and just keep attacking until Russians run out of resources to defend the gains and eventually break and give up.
I mean, good luck.
Finally a respected voice who agrees with Suedesi.
Well...to be frank, I also don't think Ukraine can defeat Russia on the battlefield.
But I do think there is another scenario that could help Ukraine secure "victory". But it may take a looong time and that is to fight Russia until the Russian economy crumbles so much that Putin has to withdraw or Putin dies. And for that, we need more pressure on the Russian economy.
The Soviets were a decade in Afghanistan but had to leave eventually. And there's probably more historical examples of an invading force having to withdraw for political or economic reasons.
His logic is identical to some in this thread. What he conveniently omits from his theory is that the Soviet Union literally collapsed after protracted economic and political pressure from the outside. Putin's Russia will be no different, unless of course the US and Europe fail to hold their collective nerve and capitulate to domestic isolationists.
Very good news:
Ukraine will get the former Dutch Gepard SPAAGs, which have proven to be the best and most cost-effective countermeasure against the Shahed drones and low flying cruise missiles. This will double the available numbers for Ukraine, after they already got all Gepard's that were left in Germany and were already bought from Kuwait.
It's however probably too late to arrive in time before the Russian's start their winter attacks on the energy/heating infrastructure
Ukraine will get the former Dutch Gepard SPAAGs, which have proven to be the best and most cost-effective countermeasure against the Shahed drones and low flying cruise missiles. This will double the available numbers for Ukraine, after they already got all Gepard's that were left in Germany and were already bought from Kuwait.
It's however probably too late to arrive in time before the Russian's start their winter attacks on the energy/heating infrastructure
Very good news:
Ukraine will get the former Dutch Gepard SPAAGs, which have proven to be the best and most cost-effective countermeasure against the Shahed drones and low flying cruise missiles. This will double the available numbers for Ukraine, after they already got all Gepard's that were left in Germany and were already bought from Kuwait.
It's however probably too late to arrive in time before the Russian's start their winter attacks on the energy/heating infrastructure
Still, this winter will not be like the last, and I'm looking forward to see what Ukraine has in response. Dunno if it was posted in here, but they've issued clear threats to Russia's oil infrastructure.
“As long as it takes” they said…The engineers of this drip-feeding policy are complete imbeciles. How these thick bastards are even allowed anywhere near steering decisions concerning national security. Everyone including my dog were screaming right from the beginning that you need to take advantage of the public support when it’s high because long game suits Russia as it’s a dictatorship which will be investing billions into propaganda to sow the divisions in the house, and it wasn’t clear only for these incompetent tw**s such as Kirby and Sullivan. Can’t even look at his stupid arrogant face who allowed Ukraine to be at the mercy now of MAGA republicans.
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I really despise Sullivan. People like him have no business doing this job when making sure that Ukraine gets a total victory with the full might of the US military industrial complex behind them is what would score major political points both at home (in the US) and abroad.
Just as @Simbo pointed out earlier, I hope Ukraine will eventually destroy a good chunk of Russia's oil infrastructure. Time to hit Putin's biggest source of income or what is left of it.