Who said I got any + what does this have to do with Brexit?
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Oh god. Was just a funny sentence (not so funny I see) that Brexit is imaginary like Santa and the ones that voted for it were your parents (older generation)
But lets leave it like this. My fault, sorry
Actually my parents didn't vote for it, they were pretty pissed about it, I didn't vote because although I could have done so I don't live in the UK anymore so IMO it wasn't my place to to so
Apology not needed, I didn't quite understand hence the questions - no big deal
No shit Sherl...
England to diverge from EU water monitoring standards
Exclusive: campaigners fear less rigorous methods could lead to more pollution in rivers and waterways
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...to-diverge-from-eu-water-monitoring-standards
England to diverge from EU water monitoring standards
Exclusive: campaigners fear less rigorous methods could lead to more pollution in rivers and waterways
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...to-diverge-from-eu-water-monitoring-standards
Why do the tories hate water?
They don't, they like the extra cash they get by not having to spend money fixing stuff
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Step 1 - get into power
Step 2 - sell all the stuff
Step 3 - lose election
Step 4 - let Labour rebuild all the stuff
Step 5 - complain about Labour spending money
Step 6 - win next election
Step 7 - see Steps 1-6 again
Problem is that is 15 years of tories vs 5 of labour
What happens wheb step 2 dries up?
Get other people, who coincidentally happen to be your mates and donors, to build it and charge fees for it that huge swathes of the population can't afford. Then demonise that section of the population.
Been quiet in here for a while.
Bad news for British illegal immigrants in France.
Census in early 2024.
Those trying to live under the radar without proper papers and those driving illegal cars, not registered, taxed, insured or MOT'd.
Plus ETIAS and EES hopefully by the end of the year.
Bad news for British illegal immigrants in France.
Census in early 2024.
Those trying to live under the radar without proper papers and those driving illegal cars, not registered, taxed, insured or MOT'd.
Plus ETIAS and EES hopefully by the end of the year.
I bet half of them still voted for Brexit though!
The illegal ones yes, they didn't think Brexit affected them and still don't.
Hopefully during the next year or so they will be flushed out.
So the British press will be full of stories about the nasty foreigners making British people homeless, best let them know they can't get a tent for the street anymore
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So the British press will be full over stories about the nasty foreigners making British people homeless, best let them know they can't get a tent for the street anymore
What are the chances that there are more British illegal immigrants in France than refugees crossing the channel? If they claim asylum maybe they can send them to Mali or put them on a barge in Cherbourg.
Been a while since I was in France so I couldn't say
Do the French send refugees to Mali? I know the British Government tried Rwanda but haven't managed it yet, now if they're Brexiteers then a barge in Cherbourg would be perfect
Been a while since I was in France so I couldn't say
Do the French send refugees to Mali? I know the British Government tried Rwanda but haven't managed it yet, now if they're Brexiteers then a barge in Cherbourg would be perfect
No I'm joking but surely Sue-Ellen would be in favour. I know of at least 20 households just in the local area who obviously are not abiding by the rules they voted for. All in good time.
The tories are literally destroying the country
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...osen-post-brexit-chemical-regulations-further
UK to loosen post-Brexit chemical regulations further
Experts warn UK’s regulations now lag behind those of the EU and that Britons will be exposed to more toxic chemicals as a result
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...osen-post-brexit-chemical-regulations-further
UK to loosen post-Brexit chemical regulations further
Experts warn UK’s regulations now lag behind those of the EU and that Britons will be exposed to more toxic chemicals as a result
Cameron now not only rewarded with a seat in the Lords but also made Foreign Secretary (irony anyone?). Good to see the cockwomble that is responsible for this debacle is paying for it.
Oh wait.
Oh wait.
Following the return of David Cameron to the Tory government as Foreign Secretary, I listened to a number of radio phone in's.
And the vast majority of the people who called in were in agreement that Brexit has been a complete failure.
And some were calling for the UK to rejoin the SM. As if that could magically happen.
In my view, I would say that a large number of people who voted leave are now beginning to recognise that they were completely mislead about the claimed benefits. And that Brexit has been a catastrophic mistake.
And the vast majority of the people who called in were in agreement that Brexit has been a complete failure.
And some were calling for the UK to rejoin the SM. As if that could magically happen.
In my view, I would say that a large number of people who voted leave are now beginning to recognise that they were completely mislead about the claimed benefits. And that Brexit has been a catastrophic mistake.
Well, wasnt brexit about unelected officials? Rishi, cameron, lords? How they spin this in the press?
David Frost , now a Lord, was the Chief Negotiator for Exiting the EU for the withdrawal agreement and led the negotiations during the transition period for the Free Trade Agreement.
Never been elected by anybody. The Brexit Public will swallow any old lies and rubbish , and the government knew it.
The Brexit Scandal | Dark Money | Bought Brexit? | Documentary
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...th-even-less-than-previously-thought-obr-says
UK’s flagship post-Brexit trade deal worth even less than previously thought, OBR says
Office for Budget Responsibility says UK entry into the Indo-Pacific agreement will add just 0.04% to GDP in the long run
Still being considerably over-optimistic.
Apart from a few nutjob Tories and Starmer, does anyone actually still believe Brexit was ever a good idea or ever going to work?
UK’s flagship post-Brexit trade deal worth even less than previously thought, OBR says
Office for Budget Responsibility says UK entry into the Indo-Pacific agreement will add just 0.04% to GDP in the long run
Still being considerably over-optimistic.
Apart from a few nutjob Tories and Starmer, does anyone actually still believe Brexit was ever a good idea or ever going to work?
Brexit-backer Richard Desmond invokes EU law to sue Gambling Commission
Ex-Express owner is expected to claim regulator made errors during bidding war for national lottery contract
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...ond-invokes-eu-law-to-sue-gambling-commission
Ex-Express owner is expected to claim regulator made errors during bidding war for national lottery contract
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...ond-invokes-eu-law-to-sue-gambling-commission
So another day in Brexit Fantasy Land.
James not very Cleverly raises the salary for immigrants and restricts their families from joining them. That should work well for the country. Britons competing with those dreaded foreigners for the higher paid jobs who can't wait to be separated from their families. Now the Brits will have no competition for the lower paid menial jobs, bet those Brexit voters can't wait to get stuck in.
On the other side we have Keir Starmer who still hasn't understood Brexit and its consequences.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...0856ef8db70e38#block-656de7c88f0856ef8db70e38
Starmer defends criticising Tories for failing to realise 'possibilities of Brexit'
Q: In your Sunday Telegraph article you said the Tories had failed to realise “the possibilities of Brexit”. What are those possibilities?
Starmer says growth was a problem before Brexit. So it is wrong to say Brexit is the source of all economic problems.
He says in some areas, like life sciences, Brexit means the UK can be more “agile”.
But he also says the UK needs a better relationship with the EU.
Q: The Resolution Foundation report talks about a UK protocol, like the Northern Ireland one. Do you favour that?
Starmer says the Northern Ireland protocol was “a step in the right direction”. He says he does not know if it would work on a UK-wide basis.
Don't think Starmer understands the NI protocol or the Windsor Framework. Waiting with bated breath what the possibilities of Brexit are. Who you going to trade with?
Do Labour and the Tories understand the difference between 1. Legal immigrants. 2. Illegal immigrants and 3. Refugees/asylum seekers. I have my doubts.
James not very Cleverly raises the salary for immigrants and restricts their families from joining them. That should work well for the country. Britons competing with those dreaded foreigners for the higher paid jobs who can't wait to be separated from their families. Now the Brits will have no competition for the lower paid menial jobs, bet those Brexit voters can't wait to get stuck in.
On the other side we have Keir Starmer who still hasn't understood Brexit and its consequences.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...0856ef8db70e38#block-656de7c88f0856ef8db70e38
Starmer defends criticising Tories for failing to realise 'possibilities of Brexit'
Q: In your Sunday Telegraph article you said the Tories had failed to realise “the possibilities of Brexit”. What are those possibilities?
Starmer says growth was a problem before Brexit. So it is wrong to say Brexit is the source of all economic problems.
He says in some areas, like life sciences, Brexit means the UK can be more “agile”.
But he also says the UK needs a better relationship with the EU.
Q: The Resolution Foundation report talks about a UK protocol, like the Northern Ireland one. Do you favour that?
Starmer says the Northern Ireland protocol was “a step in the right direction”. He says he does not know if it would work on a UK-wide basis.
Don't think Starmer understands the NI protocol or the Windsor Framework. Waiting with bated breath what the possibilities of Brexit are. Who you going to trade with?
Do Labour and the Tories understand the difference between 1. Legal immigrants. 2. Illegal immigrants and 3. Refugees/asylum seekers. I have my doubts.
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Hopefully Starmer is just trying not to piss the brainless Brexit demographic off prior to the election. Hopefully.
Another case of...lets do what the right would do to avoid that the right doesn't come into power to justify that the left doesn't exist
When the far right control so much of the press it is tempting to try to appease them.
Must be why he praised Thatcher then because it;ll sure piss off the left! https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-67604830
I understand but or you are strong leader or you end doing what the right would do to avoid that they would fo anyway
I don't disagree. But when you see sensible center left parties lose to insane right wing parties so often you can see why they do it.
yes, I agree with you. that is what had been happening everywhere that I observed the last 20 years. And this way, little by little we kept dragging the whole political spectrum to the right. The right more far right and the left to the center till a point that musk is center left
Joking apart, left as I understand it is practically nonexistent or at least, not relevant
They are losing because since 2010 they've either nominated complete unelectable leaders (Corbyn), or ones to be 'safe' or weak without a slither of personality or charisma (Starmer). - Lurching from Miliband to Corbyn to Starmer has been the definition of identity crisis.
Corbyn was only really unelectable because of the mass right wing propaganda campaign. I mean, Boris was elected, so rationality is far less important than mass right wing propaganda. Anyone who couldn't see that he was a slimy, untrustworthy, dishonest, buffoon shouldn't be allowed to drive unsupervised.
I think you raise a good point as well as a bit of a conspiracy theory. There is currently discourse in the US about how/if the media are enabling Trump [again] and their responsibility to prevent it. Corbyn came off as untrustworthy though (regardless of reality), whereas both Boris and Trump have managed to convince large swathes of the population they are trustworthy. This isn't a mass media campaign, but the individual quality of the candidate. You can rationally conclude that Corbyn should have been unelectable anyway, but that the others should also have been. And question why media were unable or unwilling to drive home that unelectability point in the case of BJ. And the unfettered use of dark money to help drive people. (Which I think is more influential than traditional media)
I'm not suggesting some dark cabal of right wingers is operating in the shadows. The far right mass media is operating openly in full sight, and proud of their insanity, prouder still that so many believe their bullshit. Of course money/priviledge is self sustaining, so more ignored than dark in most cases.
The right wing press will attack them regardless. Blair got the Sun's backing by cosying up to Murdoch. Not by appealing to the editorial team. The rest still supported the Tories.
The papers are largely irrelevant these days though. They still retain the ability to drive headlines in other media every now and then but in an ever decreasing fashion. Social Media is a far bigger driver in determining opion now. That has the ability to tap into emotion arguments and anecdotal evidence like tabloids could only dream of back in the day. Insane right wing parties feed off that stuff. Through in a stagnant or declining and it festers.
Doubt even hard core republicans truly thought Donald was trustworthy. He was just more likely to do the things they wanted than Hillary was. It wasn't a debate over who would do x better. It was a debate about what x was.
Boris said he'll follow through on Brexit. No one else did.
Didn't everybody said that they would follow through brexit, even corbyn and starmer?