How bad do things have to get before they reverse it?
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Really, really, really bad. And then they'll do something that slightly stops the really (x3) bad thing, but not entirely. And then every press outlet will tell us we should be overjoyed at the new standard of living, and the BBC will post an article called "10 reasons why living in a bin fighting squirrels for scraps of dog meat isn't as bad as you think".
Give it 40 years.
Personally I don't think it'll happen, the conditions to make it happen are probably going to be unacceptable to a lot of people + I suspect the EU will shrink at some point, there's a huge amount of Nationalism in some EU countries and I can see "Brexit" votes happening elsewhere at some point
I think it’s a winning campaign for an opposition party at some point. “Vote for us and we’ll un-feck this whole mess”
Most EU countries are getting a lot more out of the EU than they are contributing, I don't see them leaving really.
The problem is there's no way to make it better. Other than a complete change of the mindset and a complete change of most of the politicians in the UK and a complete change of the way the media feed the nonsense to the British people. It's a long way off.
It's only three years since the UK left properly. By the end of the decade as things worsen and the country starts understanding what they actually voted for, then maybe there will be a shift.
But it won't happen under the current Tory or Labour parties.
So did the UK.
the main difference is most EU countries don’t pine for their former slave driving, colonising, war mongering empire like a lot of the auld Brits still do.
Maybe but it's not always about what you get out, it's about being told what to do, or more specifically what you can't do, one of the reasons the UK left was because the people don't like being told they must do this or can't do that, that's not a uniquely British thing and it's definitely on the rise in some countries
What specifically were people told they couldn't do?
The EU will get bigger not smaller. Being told what to do was one of the lies that the Brexiters believed. Amongst the thousands of others. The Uk was one of the main decision makers.
There may be some nationalism and anti-immigration sentiment. The difference is that other EU countries realise that voting against EU citizens only increases immigration from the rest of the world and destroying their economy is not a sensible thing to do.
Haven't seen any mention of this in the UK press since the decision was taken on 21st December but the nice EU have extended the grace period for EV's and batteries for another three years.
Partnership Council confirms one-off extension of the current rules of origin for electric vehicles and batteries
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_6707
Partnership Council confirms one-off extension of the current rules of origin for electric vehicles and batteries
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_23_6707
It'll be reported soon as a great success due to Sunak's diplomacy and hard bargaining.
Anal Pork Scratchings, could be a big export.
Surely even the most dim person in the world questions this?
They've ruined our Brexit!
Metric measurement rules to stay after Brexit review
The government has confirmed it is not planning to change the rules on selling in imperial measures after Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
Metric measurement rules to stay after Brexit review
The government has confirmed it is not planning to change the rules on selling in imperial measures after Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
Reversing Brexit sounds like woke lefty nonce sense.
On the bright side it will be possible to sell pints of champagne in the UK which is exactly the kind of forward thinking I was hoping to see.
Another ready made answer next time Gove or JRM are asked about brexit benefits.
Except that real champagne is only made in France and they won't be producing pint bottles (nor will anyone else)
The department also announced that rules would be altered to allow a 568 ml "pint" size of wine to be stocked on Britain's supermarkets, pubs, clubs and restaurant for the first time.
The move, it said, that was "ever thanks to new freedoms from leaving the European Union".
The 568ml size would sit alongside the 200ml and 500ml measures already available, it said.
The department said the reforms were thanks to "new Brexit freedoms" obtained via the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Act 2023.
"Our exit from the EU was all about moments just like this, where we can seize new opportunities and provide a real boost to our great British wineries and further growing the economy," enterprise, markets and small business minister Kevin Hollinrake said.
Wow now you can order a pint of wine, what a win for Brexit.
Let's all celebrate with a glass of delicious British wine, just as soon as someone makes one.
What's wrong with British pints of fizzy piss?
You can see it now, a global supply chain designing a new size of bottle and all associated boxes and pallet packing, to sell bottles of wine carrying a whole glass of wine less than the industry standard.
And importing to themselves because no one else will buy it
Blue passports and pints of wine 
And they only cost 3 groats and a farthing.
It seems that the rules for importing wine into England are different to the rest of the UK
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/importing-selling-and-labelling-wine
Is this a sign that England are moving towards independence from the rest of the UK , heralding a return to the Victorian Age to make all of Rees-Mogg's dreams come true
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Further to that the consultation this is all based on shows the following:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...on-units-of-measurement-consultation-response
What the responses said
17) The results of our analysis showed that 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling product, either as the primary unit of sale (maintaining status quo) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). 1.3% of respondents were in favour of increased use of imperial units when buying or selling products, either by increased choice between using metric and imperial units or moving to a purely imperial system.
18) The breakdown of responses into the 4 categories is as follows:
Certifiably stupid.
https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...on-units-of-measurement-consultation-response
What the responses said
17) The results of our analysis showed that 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling product, either as the primary unit of sale (maintaining status quo) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). 1.3% of respondents were in favour of increased use of imperial units when buying or selling products, either by increased choice between using metric and imperial units or moving to a purely imperial system.
18) The breakdown of responses into the 4 categories is as follows:
| Overall preference | Number of responses | Percentage of responses |
|---|---|---|
| Status quo (keep metric as primary unit of measurement) | 81,867 | 81.1% |
| More choice (open to increased use of imperial measures) | 870 | 0.9% |
| Purely metric (completely metric system) | 17,798 | 17.6% |
| Purely imperial (completely imperial system) | 403 | 0.4% |
| Total | 100,938 | 100% |
Certifiably stupid.
Big Sam was ahead of his time with his pint of Chardonnay.
Wait so they did this to satisfy 1.3% of people?
1.3% is pushing it, 0.9% were open to use more imperial, so only 0.4% really.
Government doing their best to make another British industry go bankrupt.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-post-brexit-uk-is-drifting-from-eu-standards
‘We’re out of step’: how post-Brexit UK is drifting from EU standards
The UKCA quality standard is imposing unwelcome costs, from chemicals to construction materials
This is an article that sheds some small insight into some of the problems of Brexit which will become more apparent as time passes. Industry in the UK is beginning to wake up and anyone involved in industry or trading in the Uk will be starting to curse themselves if they thought Brexit would be a good idea.
The Tories don't care as long as attention is diverted away from their incompetence and they can persuade the electorate that the EU and or foreigners were to blame for the country's woes.
Unfortunately for the country, Starmer has bought into the rhetoric and probably believes that Brexit can work more than the Tories - so at present there's no light at the end of the tunnel.
‘We’re out of step’: how post-Brexit UK is drifting from EU standards
The UKCA quality standard is imposing unwelcome costs, from chemicals to construction materials
This is an article that sheds some small insight into some of the problems of Brexit which will become more apparent as time passes. Industry in the UK is beginning to wake up and anyone involved in industry or trading in the Uk will be starting to curse themselves if they thought Brexit would be a good idea.
The Tories don't care as long as attention is diverted away from their incompetence and they can persuade the electorate that the EU and or foreigners were to blame for the country's woes.
Unfortunately for the country, Starmer has bought into the rhetoric and probably believes that Brexit can work more than the Tories - so at present there's no light at the end of the tunnel.
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And now for something completely predictable...
Brexit has completely failed for UK, say clear majority of Britons – poll
Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/30/britons-brexit-bad-uk-poll-eu-finances-nhs
Brexit has completely failed for UK, say clear majority of Britons – poll
Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/30/britons-brexit-bad-uk-poll-eu-finances-nhs
And one in 10 were lying.
We just need to make it work. Will be the claim made for the next few decades.
UK - there's pandemic on the rise, let's get them vaccines in arms
EU - There's a pandemic on the rise, we need to get vaccines in arms. Yeah but we need approval from so many governing bodies. Let's wait, not enough people have died yet
EU - There's a pandemic on the rise, we need to get vaccines in arms. Yeah but we need approval from so many governing bodies. Let's wait, not enough people have died yet
Are you drunk?