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There is an unnecessary combativeness in your posts. Did I say it was problematic? I asked for @Idxomer to elaborate on his post.

I don't share the same assessment by the way. Politicians say many things. That doesn't mean we can't criticize their rhetoric, and Israeli politicians sure as hell aren't helping themselves including "Mr Security" himself. But on this particular matter, I'm skeptical about it being translated into a policy of integrating Gaza & WB into official Israel. I'll see if I'm proven wrong.

The larger point is that Zionism is a settler colonialism movement that has both violence and land grabs as two of its foundations. Neither of those two things are going to change. You can't ignore what they say as politics because they have turned that into reality in one way or another for the last 75 years.

And yes of course they want to take over Gaza and the West Bank, they have already stolen a lot from the latter over the decades and they aren't exactly stopping. The former has been mostly turned into a rubble with most of its features gone.
 
How far can you stretch the "let's vandalize everything because hamas may use it". For Israel i guess nothing is sacred in Gaza. How this punishment of a people hasn't been stopped yet i cannot fathom.

In a day or two we’ll hear Hamas have tunnels under the cemetery. Hollow earth theory is well and truly alive over there.
 
I feel the same way.

Well, part of the stuff that matters is that 3 big decision-makers from the Israeli government including the PM have come out strongly today against a Palestinian state.

I like it because it exposes the facade of the 2 state solution the EU and especially the US like to parrot. It has always been nothing more than just a line when both know the zionists never have the intention to move towards.
 
Well, part of the stuff that matters is that 3 big decision-makers from the Israeli government including the PM have come out strongly today against a Palestinian state.

I like it because it exposes the facade of the 2 state solution the EU and especially the US like to parrot. It has always been nothing more than just a line when both know the zionists never have the intention to move towards.

Certainly not with Netanyahu around. And that's been the case for 15 years now.
 
Well well well...
more than 3 months in,
atrocities that go beyond words,
no end in sight,
Hamas has not been extinguished or damaged in ways it can't rebuild itself in a couple of years...

quelle surprise.

It's like random people on the internet who never served a day in an army could foresee how it was all going to unfold.
 
Well well well...
more than 3 months in,
atrocities that go beyond words,
no end in sight,
Hamas has not been extinguished or damaged in ways it can't rebuild itself in a couple of years...

quelle surprise.

It's like random people on the internet who never served a day in an army could foresee how it was all going to unfold.

Yeah, but they never needed to tell the truth nor they intended, for many (including many who post here), them saying Hamas was the target was enough to justify everything they were doing at that point.
 
Have you been living under a rock these past couple of months? It's crime after crime by the israeli army...

The claim that his mindset is reflected in what he does is an assumption. You have no idea what he's actually been doing, whether he thinks a third temple should be built or not. I'm not talking about other soldiers or the army in general.
 

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This is the kind of thing that moves western academics and editorial columnists much more than brown deaths. Somehow I don't think its going to change anybody's mind this time.
 
The claim that his mindset is reflected in what he does is an assumption. You have no idea what he's actually been doing, whether he thinks a third temple should be built or not. I'm not talking about other soldiers or the army in general.
You're in denial, mate. Just look at all the crimes reported in the last couple of months, what mindset do you think the israeli soldiers have when they commit them?
 


The IOF is still counting every man murdered as a Hamas fighter which anyone with a brain cell knows is pure nonsense.
 
You're in denial, mate. Just look at all the crimes reported in the last couple of months, what mindset do you think the israeli soldiers have when they commit them?

Anger and wish for revenge for October 7 rather than fantasies about the Temple.
 


That guardian story is probably bollocks, just like the 40 beheaded babies story.


Given what we know do you think it would be beneath them to rape women on the 7th. October attack?
 
No point speculating over what they might have done with no such evidence exists.

Is your general position that body cam footage or the likes, is the only valid evidence of rape?