Imagine going watching that shite and it catching covid for your troubles on top of it all! Hope you feel better soon.
Thanks, I’m not sure which one is worse!

Imagine going watching that shite and it catching covid for your troubles on top of it all! Hope you feel better soon.
I’ve got it again, feel absolutely horrendous. I saw there’s a new variant going around, and that cases are ramping up. I went out yesterday to get a couple of covid tests and the first two pharmacies I went to had sold out of tests, I was told by both that there had been a massive increase in people buying them this week. Wondering if I picked this up at the game on Monday night.
Ah shit here we go again
Ahh don’t tell me that, I picked up a cough in the last 2 days of my holiday and it’s just got chestier as time has gone on. I’m now on antibiotics. Didn’t take a covid test as we don’t have any left in the houseI’ve got it again, feel absolutely horrendous. I saw there’s a new variant going around, and that cases are ramping up. I went out yesterday to get a couple of covid tests and the first two pharmacies I went to had sold out of tests, I was told by both that there had been a massive increase in people buying them this week. Wondering if I picked this up at the game on Monday night.
I've just been told she has a temperature of 38.5. feck
Okay thanks for the info. I believe we do have a contact for the Marsden and my Dad's trying to get through as we speak. She sounded wheezy when I spoke to her earlier. She's in bed and not answering her phone so I can't speak to her at the moment about her symptoms until my dad finishes his call.I know this probably won’t make you feel much better but the benefits of those antivirals are pretty marginal. Make sure she’s taking regular paracetamol to take the edge off her temperature but don’t worry too much about the fever. Main thing is to keep an eye on her breathing. If she’s not too chesty (and most covid cases these days are just bad head colds) then there’s nothing to worry about. Even though she’ll feel like crap. Did her oncology team give you an out of hours contact number?
Freedumb. Can't have experts teaching anything to the masses, that's way too woke. MAGA.What madness is this?!
What do more informed people on here make of this? Doctors or other health care professionals, or people who have witnessed these things in their environment?
What do more informed people on here make of this? Doctors or other health care professionals, or people who have witnessed these things in their environment?
Witnessed what? People treating randoms on the internet, like I don't know... a funeral director, as experts in areas they have no training?
The fringe antivax lunatics were always a dangerous nuisance, but the cover they were given by politicians who used the COVID vaccine as an election issue has spurred them, and their new conspiratorial conscripts, to wildly dangerous heights.
The damage done to people's faith in medical science is abominable and I fear that revolutionary strides in therapeutic and prophylactic mRNA based treatments may be stunted, if not killed.
That guy in the video is a total crank. An interesting case study of someone who started off well intentioned and had some relevant training but the lure of the YouTube grift took him more and more out of his depth. To the point where he was consistently talking ill informed conspiratorial bollox on topics he knew nothing about. I’ll watch this video later but it’s a safe bet it’s more of the same.
OK, I get your default position. But can you speak to the actual information. Why is there a rise in excess mortality, especially young people. Why are huge blood clots being found that weren't before? I'm just interested in people's take on that, not the messengers really.
Amen. Cheers for the link, interesting reading.If you’re interested in learning about disease epidemiology and public health there’s a load of medical journals you can wade through. Here’s one, for starters. These are where you find legitimate research on any meaningful new morbidity or mortality trends.
What I definitely would not recommend is watching a YouTube video hosted by a known crank, in which the “expert” he’s asking about this supposed public health crisis is a fecking funeral director!
OK, I get your default position. But can you speak to the actual information. Why is there a rise in excess mortality, especially young people. Why are huge blood clots being found that weren't before? I'm just interested in people's take on that, not the messengers really.
It's horrific and they always seem to forget that COVID, in of itself is damaging to the heart etc. Brutal illness.Witnessed what? People treating randoms on the internet, like I don't know... a funeral director, as experts in areas they have no training?
The fringe antivax lunatics were always a dangerous nuisance, but the cover they were given by politicians who used the COVID vaccine as an election issue has spurred them, and their new conspiratorial conscripts, to wildly dangerous heights.
The damage done to people's faith in medical science is abominable and I fear that revolutionary strides in therapeutic and prophylactic mRNA based treatments may be stunted, if not killed.
If you’re interested in learning about disease epidemiology and public health there’s a load of medical journals you can wade through. Here’s one, for starters. These are where you find legitimate research on any meaningful new morbidity or mortality trends.
What I definitely would not recommend is watching a YouTube video hosted by a known crank, in which the “expert” he’s asking about this supposed public health crisis is a fecking funeral director!
I remember really liking his videos at the start - they were very simple and informative at an hysterical time. Around 6 months after the vaccines he went totally mad - you could always sense he an undertone from him - very anti-EU etc but it was well hidden for a while.That guy in the video is a total crank. An interesting case study of someone who started off well intentioned and had some relevant training but the lure of the YouTube grift took him more and more out of his depth. To the point where he was consistently talking ill informed conspiratorial bollox on topics he knew nothing about. I’ll watch this video later but it’s a safe bet it’s more of the same.
Excess mortality in the EU during COVID-19 pandemic
During the month of March 2020, the number of deaths rose rapidly in some European countries when compared with the average number of deaths in the period from 2016 to 2019. The COVID-19 pandemic affected every part of the EU; however, its impact was not evenly spread. The highest peaks of a higher-than-average number of deaths during the first recording of COVID-19 cases in March-April 2020 were initially recorded in Italy and Spain, followed by France, Belgium and the Netherlands. During the period between March 2020 and February 2021, the EU experienced two waves of excess mortality: the first between March and May 2020 (reaching a 25.2 % excess rate in April) and a second between August 2020 and the end of the year (reaching a 40.0 % excess rate in November, the highest rate for the whole year). In this second wave, excess mortality rose in all EU Member States, this time with a geographical prevalence in the eastern part of Europe (Poland, Bulgaria and Slovenia reached an excess of more than 90.0 % in November 2020). Excess mortality reached a third peak in April 2021 (20.9 %) then decreased to a low of 5.7 % in July 2021, with some countries reaching a total number of deaths close to - or even below - the 2016-2019 baseline. During summer 2021, the downward trend reversed again and the EU rate increased in September to reach 12.8 % over the baseline period. Finally, in autumn-winter 2021, there was a fourth wave of excess mortality, this time with the EU rate reaching 26.6 % in November and 23.7 % in December 2021.
In 2022, excess mortality in the EU generally stayed at lower levels, at around 10 % except for July-August and December 2022. In July and August, when heatwaves affected parts of Europe, there were respectively 58 145 and 52 479 additional deaths. The excess mortality for these two months was exceptionally high (17.1 % of the average number for the same period in 2016-2019 for July and 13.9 % for August). In December 2022, excess mortality was the highest of the year and stood at 20.3 %. In 2023, excess mortality saw major decreases. In January 2023, it was 4.2 % of the average number for the same period in 2016-2019. In February 2023, for the first time since February 2020 (pre-COVID-19 pandemic period), there were no excess deaths and the indicator fell below the baseline to -1.1 %. In March and April 2023, excess mortality rose slightly to 1.3 % and 4.2 % respectively. In May 2023, when the World Health Organization declared an end to the COVID-19 public-health emergency, the excess mortality in the EU was 3.6 %.
Absolutely. One also needs to look at the death rate before and after vaccines were introduced. It’s night and day.It's horrific and they always seem to forget that COVID, in of itself is damaging to the heart etc. Brutal illness.
I remember really liking his videos at the start - they were very simple and informative at an hysterical time. Around 6 months after the vaccines he went totally mad - you could always sense he an undertone from him - very anti-EU etc but it was well hidden for a while.
Likely the algorithm trapping people into an ever-descending info spiral of stuff that just triggers confirmation bias.Yeah, he was a good teacher. I think that might have been his day job? He was a nurse who was involved in CPD, I think? His descent into madness was grimly fascinating. I put it down to the classic interplay between online grifters and their followers with more clicks and traction the more extreme their views but good point about him being an anti EU brexiteer beneath it all. That must had added fuel to the fire.
Yeah, since I got CV19 in Mar 22, the entire year was a write-off, I've never felt anything like it and was at times stuck in bed, convinced I was dying/having a heart attack. A brutal feeling and I still feel shit/can't exercise.Absolutely. One also needs to look at the death rate before and after vaccines were introduced. It’s night and day.
I am sure that there will have been a group of people adversely affected by vaccines, it was new to the market so always had that risk. Likewise I sure that there are another group who blame the vaccine but most likely had damage caused by Covid or something else.
at the end of the day governments were really damned if they did or damned if they didn’t on this issue
You’re aware of that phenomenon huh?Likely the algorithm trapping people into an ever-descending info spiral of stuff that just triggers confirmation bias.
Sorry to hear that. What’s your quack done, or said?Yeah, since I got CV19 in Mar 22, the entire year was a write-off, I've never felt anything like it and was at times stuck in bed, convinced I was dying/having a heart attack. A brutal feeling and I still feel shit/can't exercise.
Seems you are too.You’re aware of that phenomenon huh?
Erm, nothing.Sorry to hear that. What’s your quack done, or said?