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As you say yourself 'there would certainly have been cuts'. If you want to quibble about the word austerity then fair enough, my point was that Brown would have started with cuts but I believe he would not have kept that up over time as the Tories have.
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I wasn't disagreeing with you btw. More that "Austerity" is a slogan that was promoted specifically by David Cameron and the conservatives to instigate an ideologically motivated transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest. It's hinted at in that article linked with Cameron and Osborne calling Brown and Darling's 50p tax rate "distraction burglary".

Had Brown been PM there would have been cuts, but I strongly believe (as you do? again not questioning what you're saying, you're correct) Brown would have been an ideal prime minister to steer us through 2010-2015.
 
Spark said:
I wasn't disagreeing with you btw. More that "Austerity" is a slogan that was promoted specifically by David Cameron and the conservatives to instigate an ideologically motivated transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest. It's hinted at in that article linked with Cameron and Osborne calling Brown and Darling's 50p tax rate "distraction burglary".

Had Brown been PM there would have been cuts, but I strongly believe (as you do? again not questioning what you're saying, you're correct) Brown would have been an ideal prime minister to steer us through 2010-2015.
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Nice one, quite agree. Economic policy has certainly benefited those with assets over those without, like you I can't believe Brown would have kept that up for too long.
 
Why should the taxpayer have to fund the benefits for lazy disabled people who just need to get up off their snivelling arses and find work? Bloody scroungers.

Esther McVey claims expenses to rent flat while husband lets out nearby home

‘Minister for common sense’ who has criticised Whitehall waste is said to have received £39,000 in two years

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/21/esther-mcvey-expenses-flat-philip-davies
 
Meet the Unelected Lord Shutting Down Peace Protests to ‘Save Democracy’
This arms-trade lobbyist is targeting Palestine campaigners.

Woodcock grew up on protest marches. He told GB News: “People that come from our political tradition – we come from the left, we come from the Labour party – we’re all brought up in the tradition of protest … I was taken by my mum on CND marches in the 1980s.”

He has been on a journey since then, however, and is the author of a soon to be published, government-commissioned review of political violence and disruption. He has criticised the political left and centre for “viewing the idea of disruptive, angry protest as sacrosanct to democracy”. Protest actually “threatens the liberal democratic process” when taken too far, he told Channel 4 News. “There are so many channels that are open” for people to register their views, he said. “Being in one place shouting is only one of those ways.”
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Woodcock fronts the Purpose Defence Coalition, a lobbying company which he says is “working to evaluate the positive impact UK defence companies are making in their communities and beyond.”

The group is sponsored by Italian arms giant Leonardo, which has been repeatedly targeted by protesters over its links to Israel. According to Campaign Against Arms Trade (CAAT), the UK granted 26 export licences to Leonardo for military goods to Israel between 2008 and 2021.

Woodcock’s experience as an arms lobbyist may have coloured his attitude towards protesters. Speaking to GB News, he recalled attending a recent defence industry event where “everyone who ran the gauntlet was being shouted at, screamed at, horrific things said to them, megaphone in their face.”
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Meet the Unelected Lord Shutting Down Peace Protests to ‘Save Democracy’ | Novara Media
 
Reform polling at 15%. What the feck is this country turning into?
The gripe for the right was Brexit, what is the issue now?
 
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Adisa said:
Reform polling at 15%. What the feck is this country turning into?
The gripe for the right was Brexit, what is the issue now?
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Migrants crossing the channel in dinghies to be put up in 5 star hotels, overloading the NHS, being the cause of all the country's problems, etc.

I'd also imagine they feel the Tory party has abit too much melanin within it's senior ranks.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Reform UK drops second parliamentary candidate in two days over extremist views

We're not really far-right - honest

At the rate of expelling one extremist candidate per day, they won't have any candidates by the time the election comes around. When will their far-right honorary president be expelled?
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For a country obsessed with how it helped defeat Nazism, a good chunk of the population shares plenty of their views.
 
Kaos said:
I'd also imagine they feel the Tory party has abit too much melanin within it's senior ranks.
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Don't worry. They are self (race) hating white middle class elitists on the inside.
 
Kaos said:
Migrants crossing the channel in dinghies to be put up in 5 star hotels, overloading the NHS, being the cause of all the country's problems, etc.

I'd also imagine they feel the Tory party has abit too much melanin within it's senior ranks.
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It honestly amazes me that people really think that this is the major problem facing this country right now
 
Labour cannot win in my constituency so I won’t be voting for them, but today is probably the closest I’ve come to voting green again. I spent all day seeing racists on my Twitter feed kicking off about this, definitely wasn’t expecting Starmer to join them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68632034
 
Dan_F said:
Labour cannot win in my constituency so I won’t be voting for them, but today is probably the closest I’ve come to voting green again. I spent all day seeing racists on my Twitter feed kicking off about this, definitely wasn’t expecting Starmer to join them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68632034
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Clever though from Nike to create a totally unnecessary culture war rattling point to distract from the genuinely shocking price.
 
Jippy said:
Yep £125 is the real outrage here- it's about double what I thought it'd cost.
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That’s for the real version of the kit that the players wear. They’ve always been stupidly priced and you’re either an idiot or have too much money if you buy that. I think the replica is £85, which is obviously stupid money as well, but it’s the same price as our home kit when it launches. Thats just the cost of football shirts in 2024.
 
Dan_F said:
That’s for the real version of the kit that the players wear. They’ve always been stupidly priced and you’re either an idiot or have too much money if you buy that. I think the replica is £85, which is obviously stupid money as well, but it’s the same price as our home kit when it launches. Thats just the cost of football shirts in 2024.
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Ah, ok, I'm well out of the loop on these things- not had a shirt since 2008 and that was bought for me.
 
Jippy said:
Ah, ok, I'm well out of the loop on these things- not had a shirt since 2008 and that was bought for me.
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I think the last one I bought was around 2011 and I remember it being around £40/50. Had a look and the first article was from 2010 moaning about the cost of shirts :lol: https://amp.theguardian.com/money/blog/2010/sep/21/football-kits-premier-league-cash-cow

Slightly off topic anyway, as it was more about Starmer bothering to get involved with that shite. Maybe he was asked a question by a reporter, but I don’t understand the need to pander to that crowd at all.
 
Dan_F said:
That’s for the real version of the kit that the players wear. They’ve always been stupidly priced and you’re either an idiot or have too much money if you buy that. I think the replica is £85, which is obviously stupid money as well, but it’s the same price as our home kit when it launches. Thats just the cost of football shirts in 2024.
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To me 120 for the real deal makes more sense than 85 for the most expensive fake. If you're going to buy a fake at least buy a legit fake for real savings :)
 
Solius said:
Honestly people's brains are just mush at this point.
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Yep. We live in the dumbest dystopia.

The current state of the UK -

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Abizzz said:
To me 120 for the real deal makes more sense than 85 for the most expensive fake. If you're going to buy a fake at least buy a legit fake for real savings :)
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Unless you’re a top level athlete, I’m not sure you’ll need the moisture wicking technology. Everything else is identical. I’ll take the £40. Might just about be able to buy the shorts for that.
 
Dan_F said:
I think the last one I bought was around 2011 and I remember it being around £40/50. Had a look and the first article was from 2010 moaning about the cost of shirts :lol: https://amp.theguardian.com/money/blog/2010/sep/21/football-kits-premier-league-cash-cow

Slightly off topic anyway, as it was more about Starmer bothering to get involved with that shite. Maybe he was asked a question by a reporter, but I don’t understand the need to pander to that crowd at all.
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Jeez, interesting inflation gauge though.

I suppose it's of those stupid questions journos ask MPs, but yep, anything that deflects from NHS funding or what next with the Rwanda debacle.
 
Changing the colour of the flag of that guy from Turkey. How disrespectful.

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Sweet Square said:
Yep. We live in the dumbest dystopia.

The current state of the UK -

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This is the issue with having no actual oposition in Westminster. The debate today is about the colour of a flag rather than the 25% of children living in poverty in the land its supposed to represent.
 
These gammon lot will be retrospectively fuming when they see what Team GB wore in the 2012 Olympics!

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Diane Abbott: Police investigate Tory donor alleged race comments - BBC News

West Yorkshire Police has launched an investigation into alleged racist comments made by a top Tory donor.
Officers are investigating after Frank Hester reportedly said Diane Abbott, the UK's longest-serving black MP, made him "want to hate all black women".
The Guardian alleged the Leeds businessman, who has given £10m to the Tories, also said she "should be shot".
The force said it is working to establish if "a crime has been committed".
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Surely this comes under hate speech?
 
Bert_ said:
This is the issue with having no actual oposition in Westminster. The debate today is about the colour of a flag rather than the 25% of children living in poverty in the land its supposed to represent.
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Yep agree.
 
The Corinthian said:
Diane Abbott: Police investigate Tory donor alleged race comments - BBC News



Surely this comes under hate speech?
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Gaia Blues3 MIN AGO
Is anyone else fed up hearing the word racism?

Mike Johnson2 MIN AGO
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Racism is only real when it applies to the woke narrative of plod and their cohorts.

FW Hayek7 MIN AGO
Good, unlike Lee's statement this prime facie is racist.
Do not conflate colour with creed, it is better for the UK that we have more black christians than a white muslim in my view.
Those that do conflate creed with colour are he true racists.
'Islamaphobia' is an inherently racist term. EDITED

Mark Thomas7 MIN AGO
Racism is awful, however this was 5 years ago and no one reported it at the time.

james wilson13 MIN AGO
Hester merely stated facts.She,s black .she,s a woman and she got on his t***,s.

Alex White22 MIN AGO
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There is bigotry amongst white people towards other white people. Ask any Celt or European.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...nak-latest-news-cox-osborne-general-election/
 
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