Westminster Politics

Yeah and the SNP don't even try to pretend either anymore. Greens would be my vote, but their leaders are completely hopeless in government. Sturgeon really did paper over a lot of cracks in the Scottish political landscape.

How would you know? Far as I'm aware there's never been any Green ministers in the UK have there? They've largely improved my local council as the opposition even if they come across a bit wishy washy.
 
How would you know? Far as I'm aware there's never been any Green ministers in the UK have there? They've largely improved my local council as the opposition even if they come across a bit wishy washy.
There are Green ministers in the Scottish Government. Relax.
 
Fair enough, 2 very minor ministers in one of the home nations. Huge sample size of course.
They are the co-leaders of the Scottish Green party and are two ministers within the Scottish Government. Why isn't that considered significant enough to criticise or judge? Very strange point of view.
 


Nothing to see here, just the ‘leader’ of a ‘political party’ publicly blackmailing a serving Member of Parliament.
 

I’m sorry, I mustn’t have my glasses on.

CRIMINALISE…HOMELESSNESS

FOR FVCK’S SAKE!!!
What's funny is that homelessness was criminalised by the Vagrancy Act 1824 and it is only very very recently that this Conservative Government decriminalised it. It is a u turn on a very recent policy.
 
The Times poll has the Tory's on 98 seats.



98 seats too many. How the feck can the Lib Dems and Greens not be making more gains in such a scenario? Our political system is trash.
 
98 seats too many. How the feck can the Lib Dems and Greens not be making more gains in such a scenario? Our political system is trash.

if your vote is inherently lower than the major parties and spread out over an entire country, first past the post will always see little change in seat totals for those parties.

FPTP incentivises switching between major parties and people want to punish the tories
 
I really wanted to vote Labour in this GE but I think I might end up having to vote Green… these aren’t Labour policies
I'll have to wait to see who the local candidates are but I'm thinking the same way. If a GW was held tomorrow, I'd likely vote either Lib Dem or Independent.
 

Wow, I respect Rishi for this. Getting people off our streets sleeping rough, and giving them warm meals, a bed, and the use of a shower / loo. Good on him!
 
Lammy and the opportunist Labour lot using this leak as a means to pretend they're innocent. As slippery a bunch as the people they sit opposite. He and Emily Thornberry are probably the most disappointing on that front bench, I thought they were decent. To be fair, I actually believed Starmer's original pitch too. It's so depressing.



 
What's funny is that homelessness was criminalised by the Vagrancy Act 1824 and it is only very very recently that this Conservative Government decriminalised it. It is a u turn on a very recent policy.

How on Earth would something like this even be enforceable?

Stage 1: Fines -> they can’t pay them
Stage 2: Imprisonment for multiple ‘offences’ / not paying the fine -> we barely have space in prison for rapists and murderers anymore!!!
 
How on Earth would something like this even be enforceable?

Stage 1: Fines -> they can’t pay them
Stage 2: Imprisonment for multiple ‘offences’ / not paying the fine -> we barely have space in prison for rapists and murderers anymore!!!
I imagine that’s the only reason some Tories are rebelling against it. If they could somehow fling them into the North Sea it would probably get a lot of support.
 
I imagine that’s the only reason some Tories are rebelling against it. If they could somehow fling them into the North Sea it would probably get a lot of support.

It is a typical distraction tactic for the gullible to latch onto.
The country is in a mess.
Nothing works anymore.
So blame it on the homeless because that is a lifestyle choice.
Pricks.
 
I'll have to wait to see who the local candidates are but I'm thinking the same way. If a GW was held tomorrow, I'd likely vote either Lib Dem or Independent.

Lib Dem aren’t any better really. Jo Swinson hoovered up all the defecting/expelled tories last GE as well.
 
Don't pay your TV licence and go to prison to watch TV all day for free!. This Country has gone down the pan over recent years. This place has never been the same since the financial crash of 2008. The Coalition Government came in with no money left so has to squeeze public spending and increase taxes whilst millions were jobless or taking wage cuts. If this Country was a business, the shareholders (you and me) would have sacked the board years ago. Problem is, there are no credible alternatives as far as I can see. Raving right wingers like Farage and Reform or dozy who knows what they are Labour. When Labour do eventually get in and say things are worse than they thought, the cycle starts again plus we'll be a heartbeat away from Angela Rayner as P.M. if Starmer crokes. Basically, we're f***ed. In the meantime, thousands of 'asylum seekers' with no identification land on our shores and are welcomed, fed, kept warm and cosy whilst Lawyers make millions from processing their claims. Yes, we also pay for their Lawyers. Genuine Asylum claims take way too long because of the bogus ones clogging up the system. Nothing will change.
 
Don't pay your TV licence and go to prison to watch TV all day for free!. This Country has gone down the pan over recent years. This place has never been the same since the financial crash of 2008. The Coalition Government came in with no money left so has to squeeze public spending and increase taxes whilst millions were jobless or taking wage cuts. If this Country was a business, the shareholders (you and me) would have sacked the board years ago. Problem is, there are no credible alternatives as far as I can see. Raving right wingers like Farage and Reform or dozy who knows what they are Labour. When Labour do eventually get in and say things are worse than they thought, the cycle starts again plus we'll be a heartbeat away from Angela Rayner as P.M. if Starmer crokes. Basically, we're f***ed. In the meantime, thousands of 'asylum seekers' with no identification land on our shores and are welcomed, fed, kept warm and cosy whilst Lawyers make millions from processing their claims. Yes, we also pay for their Lawyers. Genuine Asylum claims take way too long because of the bogus ones clogging up the system. Nothing will change.

They only need lawyers because the system is a mess. Having tried to work out visas myself a couple of times recently for different things, the Home Office website is out of date, misleading, or in some cases just plain wrong.
 
Don't pay your TV licence and go to prison to watch TV all day for free!. This Country has gone down the pan over recent years. This place has never been the same since the financial crash of 2008. The Coalition Government came in with no money left so has to squeeze public spending and increase taxes whilst millions were jobless or taking wage cuts. If this Country was a business, the shareholders (you and me) would have sacked the board years ago. Problem is, there are no credible alternatives as far as I can see. Raving right wingers like Farage and Reform or dozy who knows what they are Labour. When Labour do eventually get in and say things are worse than they thought, the cycle starts again plus we'll be a heartbeat away from Angela Rayner as P.M. if Starmer crokes. Basically, we're f***ed. In the meantime, thousands of 'asylum seekers' with no identification land on our shores and are welcomed, fed, kept warm and cosy whilst Lawyers make millions from processing their claims. Yes, we also pay for their Lawyers. Genuine Asylum claims take way too long because of the bogus ones clogging up the system. Nothing will change.

This is the story that is repeated. A shame it is not true.

14 years of austerity and fixing the UK's finances have only cost £1.6 trillion.

And destroyed services, increased poverty and malnourished children.
 
Don't pay your TV licence and go to prison to watch TV all day for free!. This Country has gone down the pan over recent years. This place has never been the same since the financial crash of 2008. The Coalition Government came in with no money left so has to squeeze public spending and increase taxes whilst millions were jobless or taking wage cuts. If this Country was a business, the shareholders (you and me) would have sacked the board years ago. Problem is, there are no credible alternatives as far as I can see. Raving right wingers like Farage and Reform or dozy who knows what they are Labour. When Labour do eventually get in and say things are worse than they thought, the cycle starts again plus we'll be a heartbeat away from Angela Rayner as P.M. if Starmer crokes. Basically, we're f***ed. In the meantime, thousands of 'asylum seekers' with no identification land on our shores and are welcomed, fed, kept warm and cosy whilst Lawyers make millions from processing their claims. Yes, we also pay for their Lawyers. Genuine Asylum claims take way too long because of the bogus ones clogging up the system. Nothing will change.
Shame those that came in have made the debt remarkably worse.
 
If it's illegal to be homeless shouldn't the state provide some kind of housing for those who can't afford? I know any given UK government wouldn't do something like that, but surely you cannot tell people they're not allowed to be homeless if they literally cannot afford to live anywhere?
 
If it's illegal to be homeless shouldn't the state provide some kind of housing for those who can't afford? I know any given UK government wouldn't do something like that, but surely you cannot tell people they're not allowed to be homeless if they literally cannot afford to live anywhere?

Victorian Britain.
 

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. All they have to do is literally be anyone other than the Tories to win, and yet they're hellbent on being the fecking Tories.