Julian Nagelsmann | Sacked and replaced by Tuchel

[giggs-beckham]

Yes, but it makes sense to at first decide in which direction you want to swing and then look for the right manager to do that. Not sign a manager first and then discover he doesn't want or isn't able to implement the style you decided on.

Absolutely, relevant manager for the desired style we want, common sense. The article doesn't suggest this however more do hire manager to suit current crop, hope I've mis understood

 

[stefan92]

Absolutely, relevant manager for the desired style we want, common sense. The article doesn't suggest this however more do hire manager to suit current crop, hope I've mis understood

Yes it sounded a bit weird, there are basically both statements in it and I don't really know what to think about that as well.

 

[Ubik]

Seems straightforward to me - decide playing style, appoint appropriate manager for that playing style, sign players appropriate for that playing style.

 

[JPRouve]

Seems straightforward to me - decide playing style, appoint appropriate manager for that playing style, sign players appropriate for that playing style.

That's how I understand it. The only issue, which to me isn't one, is that it means that some of our key players are done. If they decided that we need to be a possession team, then good luck doing that with Rashford or Bruno as cornerstones.

 

[Ubik]

That's how I understand it. The only issue, which to me isn't one, is that it means that some of our key players are done. If they decided that we need to be a possession team, then good luck doing that with Rashford or Bruno as cornerstones.

Yeah, I fully expect us to fudge that, at least for the first season.

 

[Ludens the Red]

I'd be a bit worried that he'd turn out to be Ancelotti 2.0.

A highly successful football coach?

 

[GhastlyHun]

A highly successful football coach?

Not at Bayern

 

[RoyH1]

Not at Bayern

You guys are weird. Success only seems to matter when it happens in your domicile (Ancelotti, Kroos etc). Anywhere else you deem it irrelevant and hammer down dissent on anyone who thinks otherwise.

 

[GhastlyHun]

You guys are weird. Success only seems to matter when it happens in your domicile (Ancelotti, Kroos etc). Anywhere else you deem it irrelevant and hammer down dissent on anyone who thinks otherwise.

You're missing the point, the entire discussion was about managers at Bayern and how Zidane could end up as another Ancelotti for us. Both have had huge success elsewhere, but the question was/is whether they could transfer whatever made that success to the current constellation at Bayern. I don't know where you get 'hammering down dissent' from all of this.

 

[Pscholes18]

Absolutely, relevant manager for the desired style we want, common sense. The article doesn't suggest this however more do hire manager to suit current crop, hope I've mis understood

Exactly how I read it or it's just not true. However, if it is, then I have some doubts about Ineos.

 

[Samid]

Did we miss a trick?

 

[Pexbo]

Did we miss a trick?

Nah

 

[Samid]

Nah

Gelsmann?

 

[Blood Mage]

Would like to see him as the next United manager in the event ETH is sacked. Unless McKenna really impresses with Ipswich.

 

[Stadjer]

Did we miss a trick?

Was he ever an option?

 

[Rojofiam]

Did we miss a trick?

Not necessarily.

He's an elite manager, but it's not often that you have someone like him managing a country instead of a club. He's by far the best manager in this tournament, but that's not saying much. International football is usually for managers on the decline.

 

[NZT-One]

Not necessarily.

He's an elite manager, but it's not often that you have someone like him managing a country instead of a club. He's by far the best manager in this tournament, but that's not saying much. International football is usually for managers on the decline.

You think he is on the decline? I think he isn't even 40 yet. I agree, he is a good coach and his approach is probably well suited to international football as he has a reputation of being flexible to bring out the best of a given squad at hand. But it isn't like he failed hard at Bayern. Maybe it was a bit too early to have a gig like that coming with all the drama and stuff. He might have been a little too overeager as well trying to force things that weren't popular.

 

[The Firestarter]

You think he is on the decline? I think he isn't even 40 yet. I agree, he is a good coach and his approach is probably well suited to international football as he has a reputation of being flexible to bring out the best of a given squad at hand. But it isn't like he failed hard at Bayern. Maybe it was a bit too early to have a gig like that coming with all the drama and stuff. He might have been a little too overeager as well trying to force things that weren't popular.

I think they are saying the exact opposite

 

[NZT-One]

I think they are saying the exact opposite

Ah I see. It was meant like "Nagelsmann sticks out because all the others are on the decline". Yeah ok, that makes sense.

 

[Rojofiam]

You think he is on the decline? I think he isn't even 40 yet. I agree, he is a good coach and his approach is probably well suited to international football as he has a reputation of being flexible to bring out the best of a given squad at hand. But it isn't like he failed hard at Bayern. Maybe it was a bit too early to have a gig like that coming with all the drama and stuff. He might have been a little too overeager as well trying to force things that weren't popular.

No. I think he’s too good for international football and it’s unusual for someone like him to manage on the international stage instead of club football. Not on the decline at all, his managerial career is still in its early days and he will more than likely achieve big things in the next 20+ years.

 

[NZT-One]

No. I think he’s too good for international football and it’s unusual for someone like him to manage on the international stage instead of club football. Not on the decline at all, his managerial career is still in its early days and he will more than likely achieve big things in the next 20+ years.

That makes sense, I agree. I misunderstood your text, mea culpa.

 

[stefan92]

Was he ever an option?

Probably not. He decided to stay in Bavaria for family reasons (be able to be a dad to the children he has with his divorced wife and who live with her, so wouldn't move elsewhere with him). That effectively leaves only two possible jobs for him: Bayern München, or the German national team.

 

[DJ_21]

He would have been my first choice if we sacked ETH. Like him as a person and manager

 

[tentan]

He would have been my first choice if we sacked ETH. Like him as a person and manager

Tuchel first

 

[Redivy]

Was the only manager that I would’ve sacked ETH for.

He is a very good manager, and could be the guy we bring in if ETH doesn’t have a good start to the season. Just depends if he wishes to coach in the World Cup 2026, and obviously he needs to consider his family in his decision too.

 

[Rojofiam]

That makes sense, I agree. I misunderstood your text, mea culpa.

No problem

 

[Florida Man]

He would have been my first choice if we sacked ETH. Like him as a person and manager

Same, since Ole for me too

 

[Red_Aaron]

I know it's only Scotland and being the opening game Germany would've been naturally bouyed but I thought their press was fantastic last night, their shape was tight and their play between the lines was exceptional. Clearly very well drilled

 

[Sunny Jim]

He would have been my first choice if we sacked ETH. Like him as a person and manager

Plus 1

 

[alexthelion]

Plus 2

 

[Semper Fudge]

Thread title needs an update, surely?