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For those saying Eto'o would've been better, he's the same age as Berbatov and because he relies much more on pace and explosiveness he almost certainly wouldn't play on as long as Berbatov will. Hell, there have already been signs over the last two seasons that his body is starting to struggle with the load put on it, very much like Henry was in his last season or two at Arsenal. At his best he was fantastic, but he's on the decline right now. Whereas I would say Berbatov will at least stay at his current level, if not improve further, for at least four more seasons.
Also, Eto'o would be more likely to cause trouble if he wasn't starting. He'd demand to be up there with Rooney and Ronaldo as almost certain starters when fit, whereas Berbatov would be happy to be in the Tevez catergory. Starting most games, but still coming off the bench a bit more often.
Also, Eto'o would be more likely to cause trouble if he wasn't starting. He'd demand to be up there with Rooney and Ronaldo as almost certain starters when fit, whereas Berbatov would be happy to be in the Tevez catergory. Starting most games, but still coming off the bench a bit more often.
mad dogg talks sense
no, what's that?
cheers, that makes sense. but what is this "as-sist" you mention?For all talking about productivity there was an OPTA stats thing on SSN that showed when Assists and Goals were put together for all players in the league over the last two seasons Ronaldo, Rooney then Berbatov were the top three. I cant be arsed finding it though.
I kind of expect that also. Especially since it is in the big games that we need someone upfront who can win the ball in the air and hold onto it, which is why we pushed Ronaldo upfront at times.
Just imagine the counter-attacks we will unleash with Berbatov upfront and Rooney and Ronaldo charging onto his through balls.
I'll wait until I know how much we got.
Lots of Spurs fans will doubtless call it bad business, because we've just sold our 2nd best player. But if a player wants to leave, there's not much point in forcing him to stay in my view. Far better to sign a motivated replacement and move on.
We'll now have a ton of money to spend on other players. At the end of this transfer window the Spurs starting XI - Berbatov or no Berbatov - is going to look pretty strong IMO.
Watch this space
who would you say your best player is Glaston?
He won't get the number 7, even if Ronaldo leaves, we need a top quality replacement and i would suspect that he would get that shirt. 7 has too much history, there are a long line of great wide men to have worn that shirt.
He will be no9 if Saha leaves.
He will be no9 if Saha leaves.
@Glaston: Do you have some kind of stat which shows how many of his goals were scored using his head - last season?
Also how many assists did he get last season? I know premierleague.com has some stats over assists, but they are not that accurate, or at least that was the case for some of our players - so it would be great if you had a reliable number.
Also how many assists did he get last season? I know premierleague.com has some stats over assists, but they are not that accurate, or at least that was the case for some of our players - so it would be great if you had a reliable number.
Yes. Like Bryan Robson and Eric Cantona.
King - fitness issues aside.
He's currently training intensively with the rest of the squad in Spain and says he's fully recovered from his op and ready to take a full part in this coming season. If true, and my confidence levels are growing that it is true, it'll be like the best new signing we could possibly have made.
I could be wrong, but I believe Hargreaves was.
This could be different because of two things. Firstly, Spurs may be demanding that it's all payed upfront (the fact they would prefer to keep him means they can do this). Or secondly, rather than playing 18m now and another 10m next season we may just pay 25m now. Those figures are completely made up, but paying everything straight up would generally save money in the long-run. Kind of like taking out a loan, if you have the money it's better to pay straight up as you'll ultimately pay less.
Obviously it's a different case when the player is an unproven youngster like Anderson and Nani, as a lot of the money is made up of clauses based on how successful they actually are. These clauses are much rarer when it comes to older established players.
I kind of expect that also. Especially since it is in the big games that we need someone upfront who can win the ball in the air and hold onto it, which is why we pushed Ronaldo upfront at times.
Just imagine the counter-attacks we will unleash with Berbatov upfront and Rooney and Ronaldo charging onto his through balls.
Indeed. Unfortunately, the player who would be suffering in terms of playing time the most (if we get Berbatov) is Tevez, come the big games.
When was the last time we paid cash in full? (big transfers). Veron? I doubt it'd be the case this time.
Hutton Woodgate King Bale is a great looking backline on paper. How about all this talk of Ramos favouring a 4-2-3-1 formation. You buy into that?
Yes, my bet is we'll mainly play with just one up front and 5 in midfield.
Spose so, i missed some glaringly obvious ones
I still think that it will be reserved for Ronaldos replacement, when he leaves.
I was out drinking with a Spurs mate on Saturday night and he reckons that he's heard that its unlikely that Kings knee issues will allow him to play more than one game a week. Any truth in that mate?
For me King is one of the best Centre backs in Europe. A fully fit King would make your back line look very impressive.
Spurs really should be looking at a top 4 position next season. Ramos is building a very good side regardless of whether Berbatov stays or goes (Hopefully goes-to us that is
).I think taking the number 7 off Ronaldo, if he stays and giving it Berbatov, would be a bit too much. We have all seen him when he doesn't get a free-kick. The tantrum he would have, would be epic.
We were the only ones interested in rooney as well (Newcastle are not to be mentioned in the same breath as man united) and we paid about 27m
We were the only ones interested in Rio - 30m
We were the only ones interested in Tevez - about 20m
Ditto for ronaldo - 12.5m
everyone of those signings has reaped us the rewards and no one is complaining now
To be honest I was never a big fan of berbatov, but if fergie wants him then so be it, I am happy with it and shall support whoever plays for my team.
There have been a lot dodgy rumours swirling about re. King. He's says they're all bollocks - that's good enough for me to be going on with.
Agreed - a lot of people have forgotten (just because he hasn't played much the last 2 seasons) just how good he is.
Glaston, there's not much information in the papers at the moment about the deal being agreed. How credible do you think is the info you got?
Very credible.
I see. How do you feel then about losing one of your best players? Did you view this as inevitable? Who do you think can replace him, does Ramos need to sign any striker at all?
That's reasonable if you're Eto'o though. I'd understand if he wasn't that good, but he is and his talent demands he start every game when fit.
Plus it would be stupid, Ronaldo might be a prick at times, but as a player he is certainly worthy of the magnificient 7 shirt
Yes, it was fairly inevitable. I kind of answered part of this a few posts ago, saying:
"Lots of Spurs fans will doubtless call it bad business, because we've just sold our 2nd best player. But if a player wants to leave, there's not much point in forcing him to stay in my view. Far better to sign a motivated replacement and move on.
We'll now have a ton of money to spend on other players. At the end of this transfer window the Spurs starting XI - Berbatov or no Berbatov - is going to look pretty strong IMO.
Watch this space
"I think we're going to play mainly with one up front - someone quick and forward-facing would be the Ramos mould. Bent is one player of that type (and he mainly played up front alone with Charlton, scoring hatfuls) and so now he'll have the chance come into his own at Spurs and the wisdom of us buying him last summer will start to become more apparent (the club knew Berbatov was likely off this summer even then).
Bent, with a quality 5 -man midfield to supply him from centre, left and right (Bentley maybe, plus Modric and Dos Santos as attacking mids for example), would doubtless bang in plenty.
But I also think we'll sign a competitor for Bent in that role - there are several possibilties in the frame (mentioning no names) and things will likely move quickly now.
It actually wouldn't suprise me if we also sold Keane - now that his strike partner (Berbatov) has gone perhaps Ramos would rather have the apparent 20m (?) for Keane and spend the cash on a striker more suited to his tactical plans.
Lots of Spurs fans will doubtless call it bad business, because we've just sold our 2nd best player
Who is your best player then Glaston. Keane?
Who is your best player then Glaston. Keane?
Yes, it was fairly inevitable. I kind of answered part of this a few posts ago, saying:
"Lots of Spurs fans will doubtless call it bad business, because we've just sold our 2nd best player. But if a player wants to leave, there's not much point in forcing him to stay in my view. Far better to sign a motivated replacement and move on.
We'll now have a ton of money to spend on other players. At the end of this transfer window the Spurs starting XI - Berbatov or no Berbatov - is going to look pretty strong IMO.
Watch this space
I think we're going to play mainly with one up front - someone quick and forward-facing would be the Ramos mould. Bent is one player of that type (and he mainly played up front alone with Charlton, scoring hatfuls) and so now he'll have the chance come into his own at Spurs and the wisdom of us buying him last summer will start to become more apparent (the club knew Berbatov was likely off this summer even then).
Bent, with a quality 5 -man midfield to supply him from centre, left and right (Bentley maybe, plus Modric and Dos Santos as attacking mids for example), would doubtless bang in plenty.
But I also think we'll sign a competitor for Bent in that role - there are several possibilties in the frame (mentioning no names) and things will likely move quickly now.
It actually wouldn't suprise me if we also sold Keane - now that his strike partner (Berbatov) has gone perhaps Ramos would rather have the apparent 20m (?) for Keane and spend the cash on a striker more suited to his tactical plans.
Keane flourished behind Berbatov, do you agree?
Diego Milito is somebody that i think will be in the running, maybe even Huntelaar.
King, fitnesss issues aside (and he says they now are).
Modric I guess.
Berbatov doesnt seem to have much more class as a person. And had Eto'o not been honest when Ferdinand fouled him, we may not have won the champions league. He scored 15 goals in 17 league matches last year - not many games played because of injury, sure, but if that doesnt impress you then not too much will.
Yes, it was fairly inevitable. I kind of answered part of this a few posts ago, saying:
"Lots of Spurs fans will doubtless call it bad business, because we've just sold our 2nd best player. But if a player wants to leave, there's not much point in forcing him to stay in my view. Far better to sign a motivated replacement and move on.
We'll now have a ton of money to spend on other players. At the end of this transfer window the Spurs starting XI - Berbatov or no Berbatov - is going to look pretty strong IMO.
Watch this space
I think we're going to play mainly with one up front - someone quick and forward-facing would be the Ramos mould. Bent is one player of that type (and he mainly played up front alone with Charlton, scoring hatfuls) and so now he'll have the chance come into his own at Spurs and the wisdom of us buying him last summer will start to become more apparent (the club knew Berbatov was likely off this summer even then).
Bent, with a quality 5 -man midfield to supply him from centre, left and right (Bentley maybe, plus Modric and Dos Santos as attacking mids for example), would doubtless bang in plenty.
But I also think we'll sign a competitor for Bent in that role - there are several possibilties in the frame (mentioning no names) and things will likely move quickly now.
It actually wouldn't suprise me if we also sold Keane - now that his strike partner (Berbatov) has gone perhaps Ramos would rather have the apparent 20m (?) for Keane and spend the cash on a striker more suited to his tactical plans.
Thanks for such a long reply, I appreciate it. I'm sorry for you to see your club lose such a great player but at the same time I'd be extremely happy to see him sign for Manchester United.
If the figures are anywhere near being true, then you'll have lots of money to sign a replacement, Huntelaar being a good example. I wish you well.
Yup - he's a very good player, but playing with Berbatov really helped him shine.
Maybe - or maybe someone super-suprising
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