Players you don't get how they're rated as highly as they are

[ryan_forlan]

Totti: Never seen him have agreat game, can shoot or pick up a brilliant pass, but never seen him have a good game overall

John Terry: He is celebrated as a defender, but the only impressive stuff he does is from set pieces in the opposition half

Bosingwa: Just runs a lot

Anelka: Useless, lucky to have had got those goals. there are poachers and i repect them, but he is not a poacher. He can take on a defender, shoot from distance and pick a pass too, but has not done any of that for a long long time

Kalou and Malouda: I don't feel am too sure about them, but i expected them to have much more of an effect.

Carragher: Wins a great challenge only after another defender has already unsettled the attacker

Reina: Spastic

Eric Abidal: What he was doing in the french squad above clichy and evra, is something i fail to understand

Pique: Has a lot of potential, but I know for sure that he is not barcelona and spain first XI material yet. I still rate him though and will take him back if give a choice.

Heinze: not rated as higly by us anymore, but Ramos and Maradona seem to like him

Van Der Vaart: He is ALMOST classy

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[kouroux]

Totti: Never seen him have agreat game, can shoot or pick up a brilliant pass, but never seen him have a good game overall

John Terry: He is celebrated as a defender, but the only impressive stuff he does is from set pieces in the opposition half

Bosingwa: Just runs a lot

Anelka: Useless, lucky to have had got those goals. there are poachers and i repect them, but he is not a poacher. He can take on a defender, shoot from distance and pick a pass too, but has not done any of that for a long long time

Kalou and Malouda: I don't feel am too sure about them, but i expected them to have much more of an effect.

Carragher: Wins a great challenge only after another defender has already unsettled the attacker

Reina: Spastic

Eric Abidal: What he was doing in the french squad above clichy and evra, is something i fail to understand

Pique: Has a lot of potential, but I know for sure that he is not barcelona and spain first XI material yet. I still rate him though and will take him back if give a choice.

Heinze: not rated as higly by us anymore, but Ramos and Maradona seem to like him

Van Der Vaart: He is ALMOST classy

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He was playing at LB because when given a chance he was performing better than Clichy and Evra for the national team.

 

[Jopub]

Totti: Never seen him have agreat game, can shoot or pick up a brilliant pass, but never seen him have a good game overall

John Terry: He is celebrated as a defender, but the only impressive stuff he does is from set pieces in the opposition half

Bosingwa: Just runs a lot

Anelka: Useless, lucky to have had got those goals. there are poachers and i repect them, but he is not a poacher. He can take on a defender, shoot from distance and pick a pass too, but has not done any of that for a long long time

Kalou and Malouda: I don't feel am too sure about them, but i expected them to have much more of an effect.

Carragher: Wins a great challenge only after another defender has already unsettled the attacker

Reina: Spastic

Eric Abidal: What he was doing in the french squad above clichy and evra, is something i fail to understand

Pique: Has a lot of potential, but I know for sure that he is not barcelona and spain first XI material yet. I still rate him though and will take him back if give a choice.

Heinze: not rated as higly by us anymore, but Ramos and Maradona seem to like him

Van Der Vaart: He is ALMOST classy

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No

Don't add more later

......because most of what you've already added is utter bollocks

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Score more goals, for one. And just be more effective in general. He doesn't seem to actually anything to help his side win games.

Bahahahahaha.

 

[beardsleybob]

It seems to common consensus in this thread is that Ryan_Forlan talks a load of bollix

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Overrated is exactly what he is. Good player, fantastic technique, grabs a few goals. Yet people rate him as world class, on here in particular I've seen him in world XI teams and such.

Everytime he's had a propper run of games he's shown why he's rated so, and why he's a world class talent.

 

[Mannheim Red]

Iniesta is just a slightly better version of Park. World class, my ass.

You sir are a bafoon

 

[VII]

Zlatan

 

[B20]

Adebayor - I have no idea why people rate him as highly as they do, granted he scores every so often but only out of 4 or 5 chances a game! For a £30 million out and out striker (one chance one goal) hes really got some explaining to do

You don't understand football.

 

[kouroux]

You don't understand football.

Moreover is Adebayor even a £30 million pound striker ?
He cost them peanuts

 

[Chirag]

Arteta - Stands out because he's classy but doesn't seem to do very much.

I agree with the rest but Arteta is quality when he plays he is running everything good Everton do.. He always has a bunch of assists and goals to his name.. his build up play is very good.. However if you are implying that he is not a top top player I agree.. IMO Everton is his level..

But he deserves all the credit he gets..

Sneijder - Reminds me of Stephen Ireland. Come to think of it he basically is Stephen Ireland with a big name, and hair.

Quality player.. Has had a bad season with injuries and not being able to fit into Real's team due to the formations J.Ramos prefers.. But under Scheuster & in the Euro's with Holland he has proved to be well worth the hype..

Fabregas. All I ever see him do is fancy passes and make triangles.

Quality player.. He would walk into any team in the world IMO..

Iniesta is just a slightly better version of Park. World class, my ass.

Nilsson you better be joking there fella 'cause Iniesta is way way better than Park.. The fact that I have to mention this is an embarrassment really.. If you don't watch him play and have just said this I can understand but if you have really seen Iniesta play anyone in the world would tell you that Iniesta is ages ahead of Park in every department (except Stamina, Work rate & Determination)

Mascherano.

He is one of the best DM's in the world.. how is he overrated?

 

[Merman]

Torres

 

[Doevle]

Ashley Young

 

[Brwned]

Moreover is Adebayor even a £30 million pound striker ?
He cost them peanuts

Well yeah he cost £7m, but I'd happily pay £30m for him.

 

[Brwned]

I suppose much could be down to tiredness, but when you look at games it was almost him trying to play a more deeper role but couldnt get into the game so he would play a bit more forward and got caught so he could not get back to help - hes so important to the Asnl team when he doesnt play to his potential Asnl look shit (which is what happened at the start of the season), IMO if Fabregas hasnt got a player behind him to mop up like a proper DMF player he cant cope all too well because he cannot play too far back and still have a say in games he plays. Also Casillas has been excellent this season, and Torres unlucky with injuries.



I wouldnt really call his 06/07 the best but it did perhaps mark a dramatic change in how he played. I always thought his 2003 and 2004 seasons were perhaps his best...

Fabregas needs a player who can defend well to partner him, yes. So does Scholes.

Oh, and Casillas had a really poor start to the season, and Torres got those injuries because of over-exertion you'd assume. Like Fabregas. Van Der Vaar and Sneijder both came back from the Euro's out of form too, just like plenty of people. It's a viable reason for coming into the season in poor form.

 

[Name Changed]

Given - Makes flashy saves but gets caught in stupid positions and the defence gets blamed for it.

Brilliant goalkeeper. How you don't see that baffles me as you do know your stuff.

Clichy - Suppose it's only Arsenal fans who rate him as the best left back in the league. Behind Evra and Cole for me.

Sneijder - Reminds me of Stephen Ireland. Come to think of it he basically is Stephen Ireland with a big name, and hair.

They are both class, as is Stephen Ireland.

Iniesta

No way.

Fabregas. All I ever see him do is fancy passes and make triangles.

Another class player.

 

[Cina]

Totti: Never seen him have agreat game, can shoot or pick up a brilliant pass, but never seen him have a good game overall

John Terry: He is celebrated as a defender, but the only impressive stuff he does is from set pieces in the opposition half

Bosingwa: Just runs a lot

Anelka: Useless, lucky to have had got those goals. there are poachers and i repect them, but he is not a poacher. He can take on a defender, shoot from distance and pick a pass too, but has not done any of that for a long long time

Kalou and Malouda: I don't feel am too sure about them, but i expected them to have much more of an effect.

Carragher: Wins a great challenge only after another defender has already unsettled the attacker

Reina: Spastic

Eric Abidal: What he was doing in the french squad above clichy and evra, is something i fail to understand

Pique: Has a lot of potential, but I know for sure that he is not barcelona and spain first XI material yet. I still rate him though and will take him back if give a choice.

Heinze: not rated as higly by us anymore, but Ramos and Maradona seem to like him

Van Der Vaart: He is ALMOST classy

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[Cina]

Well yeah he cost £7m, but I'd happily pay £30m for him.

Agreed. If anything he's underrated, he's shown since he's come back how much more effective he makes Arsenals attack.

 

[Cina]

:

Torres

:confused

Are you joking?

 

[Scholesy]

Fabregas
Abidal
Agger
Totti
Adriano
Pato

 

[Doevle]

Modric

 

[OneUnited24]

Fabregas needs a player who can defend well to partner him, yes. So does Scholes.

Oh, and Casillas had a really poor start to the season, and Torres got those injuries because of over-exertion you'd assume. Like Fabregas. Van Der Vaar and Sneijder both came back from the Euro's out of form too, just like plenty of people. It's a viable reason for coming into the season in poor form.

Not really players with pace are troubled with hamstring problems, and players like Torres have them more because of their sudden burst in speed from standing - in all fairness he looked good at the start of the season but as i said before was unlucky to pull his hamstring while on internationals. I suppose you could blame the Euros on this but in fabregas' case, as i stated in my previous posts, i believe it was because he was playing too far forward (when you said "he doesnt play that forward") he got caught out a few times so he would play more deeper roles so he wouldnt get caught out but didnt influence the game playing more further back - thats what i think was the cause of his 'poor form', it wasnt him but him playing a deeper role were he wasnt as effective.

 

[Chirag]

Fabregas
Abidal
Agger
Totti
Adriano
Pato

You will regret that one in time..

 

[OneUnited24]

Agreed. If anything he's underrated, he's shown since he's come back how much more effective he makes Arsenals attack.

No more then how United would look if we had a player that wanted to get behind peoples defenses rather then droping deep, he strenches defenses which is good but he messes up a lot of the easy things - if you ask me hes a poor mans Torres

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Reina. Terribly average keeper regularly wrongly considered world class.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Makelele, definitely not the best defensive midfielder of his generation as some claim.

 

[Carl]

It's clear to me that most people in here underrate many footballers and simply don't appreciate a top quality footballer.

Some of these claims are absolutely ludicrous.

 

[Scholesy]

Reina. Terribly average keeper regularly wrongly considered world class.

Terribly average keeper?

 

[TheReligion]

Mascherano

 

[RedThaiDevils#7]

Totti might be overated now but three-four season ago if you watched Roma closely you'd say he wasn't over rated. He could dribble pass any player, pass the ball scholisque, he's shot on goal was very accurate and mind you I thought he was better than Zidane back then.
Due to very terrible injuries is what has caused he's form to collapse.
To me Benzema is overated. I don't see him worth the 30-40m in and unproven French League. Hasn't stopped the world with his plays and isn't the top striker there.

 

[KingEric7]

Iniesta is just a slightly better version of Park. World class, my ass.

 

[Brwned]

Not really players with pace are troubled with hamstring problems, and players like Torres have them more because of their sudden burst in speed from standing - in all fairness he looked good at the start of the season but as i said before was unlucky to pull his hamstring while on internationals. I suppose you could blame the Euros on this but in fabregas' case, as i stated in my previous posts, i believe it was because he was playing too far forward (when you said "he doesnt play that forward") he got caught out a few times so he would play more deeper roles so he wouldnt get caught out but didnt influence the game playing more further back - thats what i think was the cause of his 'poor form', it wasnt him but him playing a deeper role were he wasnt as effective.

Fabregas has always played a deeper role for Arsenal.

He played slightly further forward for Spain.

I don't get your point.

 

[Carl]

I am genuinely stunned that people are questioning Fabregas' ability. He is an absolutely astonishing footballer especially when you consider his age.

 

[OneUnited24]

Fabregas has always played a deeper role for Arsenal.

He played slightly further forward for Spain.

I don't get your point.

My point is he doesnt play as deep as you are suggesting and when he does he doesnt play to his potential, even though he has a great passing range and vision i would rather have Scholes play a deep laying midfield player as he can get a hold of the game from either forward or deep positions in a game (or he could before his slump in form and 2 seasons ago...) however when Fabregas plays there he isnt that effective.

I am genuinely stunned that people are questioning Fabregas' ability. He is an absolutely astonishing footballer especially when you consider his age.

I am not questioning his ability because i think hes a amazing footballer for a player his age, and is perhaps the only Asnl player i would love to see at United i am just questioning why people have put him up there with the Scholes and Xavi's in the world when they (IMO) have set the benchmark of what you have to do to be classed a World Class attacking midfielder

 

[B20]

Totti might be overated now but three-four season ago if you watched Roma closely you'd say he wasn't over rated. He could dribble pass any player, pass the ball scholisque, he's shot on goal was very accurate and mind you I thought he was better than Zidane back then.
Due to very terrible injuries is what has caused he's form to collapse.
To me Benzema is overated. I don't see him worth the 30-40m in and unproven French League. Hasn't stopped the world with his plays and isn't the top striker there.

this.

 

[Freak]

Tevez - Works hard and everything, but some people talking him up as though he was as good as fat ronaldo.

 

[kouroux]

You will regret that one in time..

I cannot even believe he put Pato in there as he's only a kid who has showed far more displays than some other players.
What an idiot he is

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Terribly average keeper?

Yes. It's verbal irony yes, but Reina is average at everything except penalty saving.

 

[Brwned]

My point is he doesnt play as deep as you are suggesting and when he does he doesnt play to his potential, even though he has a great passing range and vision i would rather have Scholes play a deep laying midfield player as he can get a hold of the game from either forward or deep positions in a game (or he could before his slump in form and 2 seasons ago...) however when Fabregas plays there he isnt that effective.

I am not questioning his ability because i think hes a amazing footballer for a player his age, and is perhaps the only Asnl player i would love to see at United i am just questioning why people have put him up there with the Scholes and Xavi's in the world when they (IMO) have set the benchmark of what you have to do to be classed a World Class attacking midfielder

Fabregas has played there for the last 4 years and been brilliant as a playmaker, who drops deep just as much as Scholes.

 

[Sarni]

Well yeah he cost £7m, but I'd happily pay £30m for him.

He cost £3m.