Arsenal v Manchester United

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Arsenal v Manchester United
UEFA Champions League Semi-final
Tuesday, 05/05/2009, 19:45
Emirates Stadium, London

First game: 0:1​
 
Looking at Arsenals team today they will be fully rested for this.

We can go there and score, then it should be truly beyond them. I don't even see why we can't go there and win.

------------------ VDS -------------------
JOS ---- Rio/Evans -- Vidic ------- Evra
Ronaldo --- Fletcher -- Carrick -- Ando
------------ Tevez ----- Berbatov-------

Possibly moving to a 4-3-3

------------------ VDS -------------------
JOS ---- Rio/Evans -- Vidic ------- Evra
------ Fletcher -- Carrick -- Ando ------
Ronaldo -------- Berbatov ------- Tevez
 
Tough one, they'll come out fighting. It's important that we keep the ball and don't let them take control of the game. I'm confident we'll score an away goal.
 
We score and the tie is over, no way we'll conceed 3 goals with Rio back.
 
yes we need to control the game in midfield, cant let them play, i have faith in carrick+fletcher+anderson, they will surely boss the midfield!
 
Solius said:
Looking at Arsenals team today they will be fully rested for this.

We can go there and score, then it should be truly beyond them. I don't even see why we can't go there and win.

------------------ VDS -------------------
JOS ---- Rio/Evans -- Vidic ------- Evra
Ronaldo --- Fletcher -- Carrick -- Ando
------------ Tevez ----- Berbatov-------

Possibly moving to a 4-3-3

------------------ VDS -------------------
JOS ---- Rio/Evans -- Vidic ------- Evra
------ Fletcher -- Carrick -- Ando ------
Ronaldo -------- Berbatov ------- Tevez
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Do you think Rooney won't play?

I agree with you about most of the players you chose.

Van der Sar is obvious, we also don't need to discuss on defenders, we'll wait what's about Evra, but I don't think it's something serious - Fergie probably didn't want to risk another knock. I'm also happy to see Sheasy in a good form, he deserves it. After today's game we can see that midfield in London will be the same as it was in Manchester on Wednesday, Ronaldo will play definitely, but I don't know who will Fergie pick from group of Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez.
 
VDS

O'Shea
Vidic
Ferdinand/Evans
Evra

Fletcher
Carrick
Anderson

Ronaldo
Berbatov
Tevez

Subs: Foster, Brown, Rafael, Scholes, Giggs, Park, Rooney.

Yes, Rooney probably wouldn't start this game. He'll come on if we are really chasing the goals. I wouldn't start Evra either if we have decent cover for him, but oh well.

1-1.
 
Vds

O'Shea
Rio/Evans
Vidic
Evra

Fletcher
Andy
Carrick

Ronaldo
Tevez
Rooney

1-1 with the Champions going through. Will be tough especially if Arsenal go one up in the beginning of the match.
 
Maciek said:
Do you think Rooney won't play?

I agree with you about most of the players you chose.

Van der Sar is obvious, we also don't need to discuss on defenders, we'll wait what's about Evra, but I don't think it's something serious - Fergie probably didn't want to risk another knock. I'm also happy to see Sheasy in a good form, he deserves it. After today's game we can see that midfield in London will be the same as it was in Manchester on Wednesday, Ronaldo will play definitely, but I don't know who will Fergie pick from group of Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez.
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He's on a yellow so Fergie could use him from the pitch to inject some late energy into the game. if he plays for the 90 minutes he's got more chance to get booked and miss the final if we get there. Also Fergie played him for the whole 90 today when he could have subbed him for Nani.
 
Rooney will be on the bench for this one, I'm sure of that. Tevez and Berbatov to start
 
Solius said:
He's on a yellow so Fergie could use him from the pitch to inject some late energy into the game. if he plays for the 90 minutes he's got more chance to get booked and miss the final if we get there. Also Fergie played him for the whole 90 today when he could have subbed him for Nani.
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Truly. I forgot about it ;)
 
Am I right in suspecting that Evra, Rooney and Tevez are one yellow card away from missing the final, should we get through?

I might consider using Park to protect Rooney; difficult call to make. It seemed strange to keep Rooney on for 90 mins at Mid if he is starting on tues. At the same time we probably need to score at least once and Rooney offers us a lot in terms of goal threat.

I think we might use: Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson in central midfield.

Then Park and Tevez to work hard in the wide areas and get forward when we break. And leaving Ronaldo free to do his thing. Otherwise Arsenal will have play of space for their fullbacks to launch attacks and try to overload us on the wings.
 
van der Sar

O'Shea
Ferdinand/Evans
Vidic
Evra

Fletcher
Carrick
Anderson

Ronaldo
Berbatov
Rooney

2-1 for Arsenal, Rome for United
 
Its too big a risk not to start Rooney. If he does miss the final so be it. We cant afford to look that far ahead. I've never seen SAF do something like this.

He did a good job on Walcot in the first leg and will be needed to protect Evra in this leg as well. Imagine how stupid it would look if we were to go out having saved Rooney for the final?

Its nonsense imo.
 
I'll be surprised if there is any changes to the team that faced Arsenal on Wednesday, bar the possible doubt to Ferdinand
 
Arsenal have to attack, with Ronaldo's pace hopefully we can counter attack and catch them out of position. I think Rooney should start on bench, we need him in the final and he needs a rest. Berbatov and Tevez have the potential to be a good partnership if they can both be selfless, and take their opportunities. They are going to have to work together. When they do we get goals.
 
kps88 said:
He did a good job on Walcot in the first leg and will be needed to protect Evra in this leg as well. Imagine how stupid it would look if we were to go out having saved Rooney for the final?

Its nonsense imo.
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I'm sure that Park can play with Evra on the left and believe me, Park is someone who can stop Walcott. However, I don't know how Fergie wants to choose midfielders and strikers? Carrick, Anderson and Fletcher without any doubts, but if he's gonna play Park I don't know where he wants to put him.

Tevez and Rooney are one yellow card from suspension, but you have to agree that it will be more difficult without Rooney in (hopefully) the final.

With Rooney's situation I really expect him on the bench.
 
It's too hard to call the winner of this game as far as I'm concerned. It's just as likely that we go there and play them off the park to win 3-0 or something as it is that we think we'll do well and then they steamroll us like Liverpool did when we got too confident earlier in the season
 
The yellow card issue, if you were being ultra careful you could do this

VDS
Rafael Rio Vidic O'Shea
Fletcher Carrick Anderson Park
Ronaldo Berbatov

But let's not.
 
Can't see Giggs playing any part in the team until Wigan. He's played all of our last 2 hours of football
 
MUFCgal said:
Same team as the first leg. 2-1 to us :devil:
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The only thing i'd consider is moving Tevez to the bench and playing Berbatov. But that'll depend on the tactics we decide to use, do we follow the idea of defending from the front with Tevez and Rooney pressing. Or do we give the Arsenal defense the ball and allow Berbatov to protect the ball (which he's so good at).

Personally, i'd go with Berbatov in this leg.
 
RedSky At Night said:
The only thing i'd consider is moving Tevez to the bench and playing Berbatov. But that'll depend on the tactics we decide to use, do we follow the idea of defending from the front with Tevez and Rooney pressing. Or do we give the Arsenal defense the ball and allow Berbatov to protect the ball (which he's so good at).

Personally, i'd go with Berbatov in this leg.
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I can see what you're saying, but I really want an away goal and once we get that the game's over IMO as I don't see them scoring three. Pressure their shaky defence and start a high paced tempo, for this we need Tevez to start.
 
exact same line up as last game

fergie got it spot on.....

we looked defensively solid, controlled the game and we will score at the emirates with that team

berbatov was ok today but with tevez, fletcher, rooney and anderson in the team arsenal won't have a chance to settle into their passing style which makes them a good side
 
It's a risk with Rooney, Tevez and Evra one yellow away from suspension. I could see Rooney, especially, on the bench.

VDS
O'Shea
Rio/Evans
Vidic
Evra
Carrick
Fletcher
Anderson
Ron
Tevez
Berb

Our midfield 3 were all rested today and may be too much for Arse to cope with.
 
There should be a yellow card amnesty in the semi-finals.

On topic: this could go either way. We could dominate the game again like we did at Old Trafford, or we could get slaughered like we did at The Emirates earlier in the season. Should be a real cracker, either way!
 
Count Duckula said:
There should be a yellow card amnesty in the semi-finals.

On topic: this could go either way. We could dominate the game again like we did at Old Trafford, or we could get slaughered like we did at The Emirates earlier in the season. Should be a real cracker, either way!
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What? and lose 2-1???????????????????????????
 
Berbatov or Tevez then?

I'd like to see us play the same formation as we did in the first leg. Just the question of Berba or Tevez I think.
 
You have just reminded me that game at Emirates in November. Absolutely fantastic, I would say that it was one of the best games to watch this season in Premier League (yes, even more enjoyable than Liverpool - Arsenal 4:4).

1st part
Rapidshare / Mediafire

2nd part
Rapidshare / Mediafire
 
Team should be...

GK: VDS

RB: O'Shea
CB: Ferdinand
CB: Vidic
LB: Evra

RM: Ronaldo
CM: Fletcher
CM: Carrick
CM: Anderson
LM: Park

CF: Rooney

Subs: Foster, Rafael, Brown, Scholes, Giggs, Berbatov, Tevez

Cant for the life of me see us not scoring at least once and to be honest I pretty confident that we wont get beat either. We're well overdue a win there but I'll go for a score draw
 
Count Duckula said:
There should be a yellow card amnesty in the semi-finals.

On topic: this could go either way. We could dominate the game again like we did at Old Trafford, or we could get slaughered like we did at The Emirates earlier in the season. Should be a real cracker, either way!
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I thought we played better than them in that game, some of our misses were shocking but out passing game was superb. Some very sweet flowing moves.
 
the kit is wrong. we'll wear the same kit we used today.
 
Rooney's in too good form to be dropped. He just has to play the game like he's already on a yellow and not do anything silly. It's too much of a risk not to play him. He's been our best player by far recently, and our whole game could go to shit if he's not on the pitch. This is the biggest knock-out tie we've ever played against a traditional domestic rival. We need all our best players.

---------------VDS

O'Shea---Ferdinand---Vidic---Evra

----Fletcher---Carrick---Anderson

Ronaldo-----Berbatov-----Rooney

I think Berbatov could be key in this game. Tevez doesn't keep possession well, and we can't keep gifting the ball to them, because they'll be more dangerous and ambitious at home. Berbatov put in a textbook if unspectacular performance in Porto, effortlessly keeping the ball up front and starving the opposition of possession. We'll need to do this again. Bring Tevez on for Rooney if we're in a good position to see out the game, and we don't want Rooney picking up a booking.
 
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