All time best XI

Cling Bak

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Always a tough one, but many hours wasted away in the pub discussing it.

Who would make your all time team?


Schmeichel

Cafu - Beckenbauer - Baresi - Maldini

Best - Zidane - Matthaus - Maradona

Pele - R.Baggio​


Explanations:

Schmeichel - the best goalkeeper I have ever seen. Simple as.

Cafu had stiff competition from Zanetti and going back, Carlos Alberto, but I haven't seen enough of the latter to pick him. Eboue was up there too.
Beckenbauer is probably the greatest defender ever, Baresi was a cool customer too and he fights off competition from Moore.
Maldini's just a legend and comfortable at left or centre-back.

Best = best, Zidane is the greatest of his generation, and Maradona, for me is untouchable. Wide left is not somewhere he was always deployed, but he could come infield and do whatever the feck he wanted. Matthaus is the engine, the water carrier, the calming influence in the middle whilst the others rush off doing silly things upfield. Though Matthaus himself could get forward or even play at the back. Terrific all round talent.

Pele was just a joke, I have hours upon hours worth of stuff on him and he was unbelievable. Baggio is a controversial choice, but he is one of my favourite players ever, capable of beating an entire team on his own, curling one from 25 yards or splitting a defence with one touch of the ball. He was doing it when Serie A was the best league in the World too and he's one of a very, very short list to score 200+ Serie A goals.
 
You ruined you team with Baggio.
 
Cling Bak said:
Schmeichel

Cafu - Beckenbauer - Baresi - Maldini

Best - Zidane - Matthaus - Maradona

Pele - R.Baggio​
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I'll go with that, only I'd swap Baggio for Ronaldo de Lima, and Mathaus for someone else (I just don't know who).
 
I`m also too young.

Baggio would go at the expense of Fat Ronaldo though.

I`d like to have Cruyff in there somewhere as well, but that might be tough.

I`m a bit short on right backs, but otherwise I agree with the defence and goalkeeper.
 
Cling Bak said:
Schmeichel

Cafu - Beckenbauer - Baresi - Maldini

Best - Zidane - Matthaus - Maradona

Pele - R.Baggio​
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Maldini best ever left-back ? :annoyed:




----------------------------Yashin

---C. Alberto------Beckenbauer---Baresi----Facchetti

---Best----------Zidane----------Maradona----Dzajic

-------------------Ronaldo------Pelé




Many edits because I was thinking at the same time :nervous:
 
Woah, you've changed you're team about three times in quick succession there Nani Nana. I was about to say a lot of guys were out of position and Zanetti as the best ever right back? But now it looks a lot better, not sure who would anchor that midfield though, but then again would you have to? With that defense you wouldn't concede many.
 
Some older players for consideration.

Lev Yashin, an absolute Giant of a keeper, even Gordon Banks adnmitted feeling inferior to him.

Carlos Alberto, Could play anywhere in defense, and at a push midfield, the Godfather of the overlapping full-back.

Alfredo Di Stefano, The footbalers footballer, midfield general and goal scorer par excellence.

Ferenc Puskas, the greatest goal scorer ever to put on a pair of boots, and a wonderfully deft touch for a big man.

Eusabio, Pace, power, movement, touch and a thuderbolt with either foot, also a gent.

Ralph Milne, No world eleven is complete without this man, IMO.
 
Di Stefano and Milne are shoo-ins really.
 
Partizan said:
Ferenc Puskas, the greatest goal scorer ever to put on a pair of boots, and a wonderfully deft touch for a big man.
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You're not wrong there!

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Xander45 said:
Woah, you've changed you're team about three times in quick succession there Nani Nana. I was about to say a lot of guys were out of position and Zanetti as the best ever right back? But now it looks a lot better, not sure who would anchor that midfield though, but then again would you have to? With that defense you wouldn't concede many.
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I haven't put any defensive midfielder but now it's up to you to tell me who out of Maradona, Best, Zidane, Dzajic, Pelé and Ronaldo (in his prime) would have lost the ball. :lol:
 
I think Beckenbauer and Baresi are the two best defenders of all time, but both functioned better off a big, commanding centre-back. Realistically you'd have to stick one in there, although deciding on who that could be is quite challenging.

No Di Stefano? That's pretty surprising.
 
He may well be Bak, but he's not as good as the best striker of all time - Puskas.

And no mention of Artur Friedenreich? The first orginal great of the game - he invented half the tricks the players use today.
 
I'd play a 3-1-2-3-1 formation because I can get more attacking players in that way, and lets face it this team should be able to cope!
Beckenbauer Keane Charlton and Zidane in a diamond would destroy teams!
------------------------Schmeichal----------------
-------------------Moore--Baresi--Maldini----------
-------------------------Beckenbauer------
----------------------Keane-----Charlton----------
----------------Best-------Zidane------Maradonna------
--------------------------Pele---------------------
 
yellowandgreens said:
I'd play a 3-1-2-3-1 formation because I can get more attacking players in that way, and lets face it this team should be able to cope!
Beckenbauer Keane Charlton and Zidane in a diamond would destroy teams!
------------------------Schmeichal----------------
-------------------Moore--Baresi--Maldini----------
-------------------------Beckenbauer------
----------------------Keane-----Charlton----------
----------------Best-------Zidane------Maradonna------
--------------------------Pele---------------------
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That team is pretty out of order, though I don't think Keane should be in any best ever xi's. As good as he was.
 
But surely Puskas is more deserving of a place in a 'best ever' side?
 
Oh yeh, no doubt about it. Still, the point remains.
 
Ferenc Puskas. What an unbelievable record.

Senior career
.......Years................ Club..............App (Gls)
1943 to 1949 - Kispest A.C........- 177 (187)
1949 to 1955 - Honvéd (loan)...- 164 (165)
1958 to 1966 - Real Madrid.......- 182 (157)
Total.............................................523 (509)

National team
1945 to 1956 - Hungary......85 (84)
1961 to 1962 - Spain............4 (0)

Strange that back in those days you could obviously play for various nations. I noticed Di Stefano played for three different nations.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
Ferenc Puskas. What an unbelievable record.

Senior career
.......Years................ Club..............App (Gls)
1943 to 1949 - Kispest A.C........- 177 (187)
1949 to 1955 - Honvéd (loan)...- 164 (165)
1958 to 1966 - Real Madrid.......- 182 (157)
Total.............................................523 (509)

National team
1945 to 1956 - Hungary......85 (84)
1961 to 1962 - Spain............4 (0)

Strange that back in those days you could obviously play for various nations. I noticed Di Stefano played for three different nations.
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Puskas was the Donald Bradman of Football.
 
This is based mainly on my judgements from video clips and what other people have said of these players

Schmeichel

Cafu Moore Beckenbauer Maldini

Best Keane Zidane Maradona

Pele Ronaldo​

Cling Bak said:
That team is pretty out of order, though I don't think Keane should be in any best ever xi's. As good as he was.
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Ferguson said "When they start picking the best teams of all time, he will be in there" after he retired.
 
kietotheworld said:
Ferguson said "When they start picking the best teams of all time, he will be in there" after he retired.
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Zidane said Paul Scholes was the greatest midfielder of his generation.

George Best said George Cohen is the best right-back he's ever played against.

Pele said an African team would win the World Cup before the year 2000.

Sometimes greats say things. I don't see Scholes or Cohen on anyone's team sheets though. Or an African player, not even George Weah.

Keane was amazing, he'd walk into United's best ever XI, but personally I don't think he's one of the best central midfielders to have ever lived.

Your team is still brilliant though.
 
Cling Bak said:
Zidane said Paul Scholes was the greatest midfielder of his generation.

George Best said George Cohen is the best right-back he's ever played against.

Pele said an African team would win the World Cup before the year 2000.

Sometimes greats say things. I don't see Scholes or Cohen on anyone's team sheets though. Or an African player, not even George Weah.

Keane was amazing, he'd walk into United's best ever XI, but personally I don't think he's one of the best central midfielders to have ever lived.

Your team is still brilliant though.
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I'd disagree. Robson over Keane every time for me.
 
Cling Bak said:
Zidane said Paul Scholes was the greatest midfielder of his generation.

George Best said George Cohen is the best right-back he's ever played against.

Pele said an African team would win the World Cup before the year 2000.

Sometimes greats say things. I don't see Scholes or Cohen on anyone's team sheets though. Or an African player, not even George Weah.

Keane was amazing, he'd walk into United's best ever XI, but personally I don't think he's one of the best central midfielders to have ever lived.

Your team is still brilliant though.
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None of those people made a career out of successful judgements with regard to players' quality though. Since retirement, Pele's made a career talking shit about football and selling erectile disfunction drugs, while Zidane recently said Gerrard's the world's best player.
 
kietotheworld said:
None of those people made a career out of successful judgements with regard to players' quality though. Since retirement, Pele's made a career talking shit about football and selling erectile disfunction drugs, while Zidane recently said Gerrard's the world's best player.
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You've missed my point. People in the game say things, it doesn't make it true. Your example was one on its own and from a man who managed Keane, so he is likely to be biased. As are most of the people on here. Speak to an Arsenal fan and they'd say they'd have Vieira over Keane. Ok, they'd be wrong in their thinking, but I believe this comparison is closer than of Keane to some of the others being discussed in all time XI's.

KingEric7 said:
I'd disagree. Robson over Keane every time for me.
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And there you go.
 
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