Central midfield this season...

I thought Carrick played okay in the holding role. He certainly improved in the second half, and did well defensively late on when we were under a lot of pressure. He wasn't very effective with the ball though.
 
I thought Carrick played okay in the holding role. He certainly improved in the second half, and did well defensively late on when we were under a lot of pressure. He wasn't very effective with the ball though.

Doing what:nervous: Might aswell have stayed at home today. If i was Anderson i would have been in Fergie's ear all game!!
 
Centre Mid has to be Fletcher + AN other/others. He seems to reserve some of his best stuff for big games. That's not all that common. He's been immense so far this season, and IMO he's becoming the sort of player that might be a candidate for the captaincy down the line.

There's nothing more admirable than a bloke whose team-mates are in poor form, and decides to just take the game by the scruff of the neck. He may not have been involved in the goals, but the countless times he won the ball back kept us competitive at a time we were just tossing it back every time we got it.

A lot of people on here talk about what he doesn't have, but what he has in spades in bollocks. Some of his potential partners in the engine room could do worse than take a leaf from his book.
 
Centre Mid has to be Fletcher + AN other/others. He seems to reserve some of his best stuff for big games. That's not all that common. He's been immense so far this season, and IMO he's becoming the sort of player that might be a candidate for the captaincy down the line.

There's nothing more admirable than a bloke who's team-mates are in poor form, and decides to just take the game by the scruff of the neck. He may not have been involved in the goals, but the countless times he won the back kept us competitive at a time we were just tossing the ball back every time we got it.

A lot of people on here talk about what he doesn't have, but what he has in spades in bollocks. Some of his potential partners in the engine room could do worse than take a leaf from his book.

Too right. And his finding of space, his tackling, his passing going forward... it's been like this all season, and atm he's our best central midfielder.
 
Defending, you pillock.

What dropping in 3 tackles... deciding to wake up because we were winning!! Yeah he the man!! He played shit i don't want to hear no crap about he did his job.. because if he did it would have been well noted!! Carrick was shit today end of story.

Don't be a fool!!
 
What dropping in 3 tackles... deciding to wake up because we were winning!! Yeah he the man!! He played shit i don't want to hear no crap about he did his job.. because if he did it would have been well noted!! Carrick was shit today end of story.

Don't be a fool!!

I never said he did his job. I said he did some aspects of his job.

The statements "he might as well not have been there", "he did nothing" or similar are retarded to the extreme.

Carrick was below average tonight. As were many others.
 
Carrick was his usual mediocre self. He has hardly ever taken games by the scruff or had great workrate. Pass 5 yards and try a few hollywood balls when we had the ball but disappear when the opposition has possession - he did that (as he always does). The most glorified water carrier of all time. That was what we needed to let the likes of Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs and Scholes play in the past but when he needs to step up now, it's not a surprise that he has been found wanting. A reason why every England manager doesn't believe he is good enough to start
 
His pass completion was higher then Fletchers, was Fletchers passing even poorer then Carricks?

Terry has a high pass completion rate too. It means feck all if you make 5 yard side or back passes all game and aimlessly punt it forward once in a while Carrick was always a passenger and continues to be one. Unfortunately we may not be able to afford that luxury this season.
 
Carrick wasn't that bad. I see the usual suspects are making a big fuss out of his poor start to the season. I remember the same posters saying similar things about Rooney's start last season.
 
To be fair though Carrick looked far worse than he actually was when there's Fletcher next to him, who has been doing everything and was immense.
 
In the match thread someone suggested selling Carrick to Newcastle. I'm in favor of this. Everyone would benefit. Newcastle would get a midfielder right at their level, Carrick would be nearly guaranteed a starting place, and we would no longer have to shudder at those passes.

There are three things that make me nervous to see in a United match:

Wayne Rooney talking to a ref.

Paul Scholes tackling.

And Michael Carrick trying to pass to the forwards.
 
Terry has a high pass completion rate too. It means feck all if you make 5 yard side or back passes all game and aimlessly punt it forward once in a while Carrick was always a passenger and continues to be one. Unfortunately we may not be able to afford that luxury this season.

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Mozza, Fletcher was outstanding again against Arsenal. Carrick was relatively poor again. Simple as.
 
"I got a bit of the ball and a bit of the man," Fletcher said of his tackle on Arshavin, "but their goal came from that because then I panicked and mis-cleared the ball, so I don't think they've got too much to complain about."
 
Though Carrick is out of form, whats with all this hate? Last season we all sung his praises and if anyone insulted him, we were insulted. Now we get all these pillocks coming out with "oh he always been garbage...I know that (just that I didn't want to say anything last season when we were playing well and defensively solid)"

I didn't want Carrick in the starting line up but he still is a useful player and will come good once he is out of this purple patch.
 
In the match thread someone suggested selling Carrick to Newcastle. I'm in favor of this. Everyone would benefit. Newcastle would get a midfielder right at their level, Carrick would be nearly guaranteed a starting place, and we would no longer have to shudder at those passes.

There are three things that make me nervous to see in a United match:

Wayne Rooney talking to a ref.

Paul Scholes tackling.

And Michael Carrick trying to pass to the forwards.

Dear God, that is a new low.
 
Centre Mid has to be Fletcher + AN other/others. He seems to reserve some of his best stuff for big games. That's not all that common. He's been immense so far this season, and IMO he's becoming the sort of player that might be a candidate for the captaincy down the line.

There's nothing more admirable than a bloke whose team-mates are in poor form, and decides to just take the game by the scruff of the neck. He may not have been involved in the goals, but the countless times he won the ball back kept us competitive at a time we were just tossing it back every time we got it.

A lot of people on here talk about what he doesn't have, but what he has in spades in bollocks. Some of his potential partners in the engine room could do worse than take a leaf from his book.

Yep. His place as our first choice midfielder can't even be in doubt anymore. The only question left is who should partner him.
 
Attention to Carrick

Pass the ball to the people having this kind of shirt

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And not the ones having this kind of shirt

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Though Carrick is out of form, whats with all this hate? Last season we all sung his praises and if anyone insulted him, we were insulted. Now we get all these pillocks coming out with "oh he always been garbage...I know that (just that I didn't want to say anything last season when we were playing well and defensively solid)"

I didn't want Carrick in the starting line up but he still is a useful player and will come good once he is out of this purple patch.

I hope this isn't a purple patch for Carrick.
 
I think scholes has to start everytime. Yesterday one of the many things wrong I noticed was our poor passing and especially our passing under pressure. Nobody does this better than scholesy. A midfield of fletch-scholes against most teams would be fine for me!
 
He did, more so then his central midfield partners, any message for them?

carrick was fecking dire yesterday, no two ways about it. No need to bring any sort of statistical comparison into the debate because it was plain to see he was a passenger, even you can't deny that.

I look forward to the return of the real Michael Carrick.
 
So your stupid enough to think posting your fecking stats again proves he made any intelligent passes?:eek:

FFS Do you actually have a brain? Because if you did and actually used it to watch our game last night, you wouldn't dare attempt to defend Carrick after the shit he pulled yesterday. Or claim Fletcher "ran around a bit, some expectations" :wenger:

But its you after all. the dim wit who blamed our whipping we got from Milan on our missing defenders, and not Carrick's failure to show up in midfield, not to mention the fact Makelele is a playmaker in your opinion.:lol: