Nani

Legend16 said:
it wouldnt be the first time SAF told the world what a good player he had and then flogged him shortly after now would it. I see no improvement from the player we bought a few years ago. Thats my opinion and I feel the fact that his improvement is even debatable kind of proves that point
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it's only debateable because people are free to debate...

Let's also remember we're 5 people in a thread. There are millions of opinions floating out there.

Are you denying Nani started the season well before a dip and that his second half performance was encouraging?

But that would be your opinion and that's where the whole thing get's tiring. Sir Alex would have had every right to sub Nani at any point in the first half but what we saw instead was him trusting the player and he was right too
 
Legend16 said:
some are. others are judging Nani on his own merits
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In my honest opinion, Nani is very frustrating.

For 15 minutes in a match, he can look brilliant, beating his man, putting in great crosses. For the other 75 minutes, he does the opposite. Puts in woeful crosses and loses the ball consistently. Now and again he will have a great match, but his next 4 will be woeful.

The potential is there for him to be a quality player. Although one of his problems is that his consistency doesn't seem to be improving. As another poster said, he was probably better in his first season.

Sometimes he is great. Sometimes he is brutal. Because he has so much potential, it makes it all the more frustrating.
 
Striker10 said:
it might have been would have to see it again. I just remember fletcher trying to play a 5 yard pass and them getting the ball and breaking on us.
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I think he played a pass (possibly to Anderson) and it was going straight for him but the ref moved and deflected the ball into Andy Reid's path. I think that's why Fletch got a bit hot headed and lashed out having a go at the ref. I could be wrong, that's just what I thought I saw.
 
Name Changed said:
I think he played a pass (possibly to Anderson) and it was going straight for him but the ref moved and deflected the ball into Andy Reid's path. I think that's why Fletch got a bit hot headed and lashed out having a go at the ref. I could be wrong, that's just what I thought I saw.
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you know i'm not even going to watch motd cause it's just so frustrating. You realize the worrying thing is one of us has fecked up eyesight? :D
 
Striker10 said:
it's only debateable because people are free to debate...

Let's also remember we're 5 people in a thread. There are millions of opinions floating out there.

Are you denying Nani started the season well before a dip and that his second half performance was encouraging?

But that would be your opinion and that's where the whole thing get's tiring. Sir Alex would have had every right to sub Nani at any point in the first half but what we saw instead was him trusting the player and he was right too
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In the simplest terms possible. I dont believe Nani has improved since joining United. I also dont believe he is good enough for United. Thats my opinion. And I've yet to see evidence to the contrary
 
Ekeke said:
So Nani was 8% behind our best player on the day? Not exactly a mare is it. Could have been better, could have been worse. And I mean, the only reason Welbeck's wasnt lower was because he didnt actually put crosses in. Which means Nani had to do that even more-so else nobody would have been getting the ball into the box.
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Not too hot at maths, are you?
 
Awful again tonight. Had a real chance to prove himself but blew it.

He needs to up his game and fast if he wants a career at United.
 
Name Changed said:
I agree.

The problem is that people are comparing Nani to Ronaldo. It just can't work. It cannot work in Nani's favour. Ronaldo is one of the best wingers ever. If Nani is expected to do what Ronaldo did, we will all be in for disappointment. He is not Ronaldo. He is not Giggs. They were/are exceptional players. It's similar to everyone comparing every midfielder to Roy Keane. It's unfair on the players.
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Well said, it does Nani no favors.
 
Ekeke said:
Oh, so Berbatov wasnt our best player today?

Thought you'd have been the first to agree with me.
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Assumed you were talking about the best passer on the day, seeing as we were talking about passes an' all.

I'm actually not that fussed about Nani's pass completion. Attacking, creative players rarely have a very high completion, especially if they take corners. Giggs is often the worst on the pitch. I wouldn't hold that stat against him.

I thought he was ok today, for half the game anyway. He was fecking shite in the first half but so was our whole team. He was quite good in the second half. I really really really wish he would stop being such a fanny though. The play-acting is making the fans dislike him even more, which in turn makes him less confident and affects his performance. He's been here long enough to realise nobody likes a cry-baby and he should cut it out.
 
To be fair he's got just slightly better with his play-acting annoyances. I remember when he first arrived here he'd make sure he goes down, holding his back, needing treatment, in pretty much every game. And he was always alright afterwards.
 
esmufc09 said:
Awful again tonight. Had a real chance to prove himself but blew it.

He needs to up his game and fast if he wants a career at United.
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I would still rather see him than Valencia... And Nani wasnt that bad tonight (in the second half) i just think he shouldnt play on the right, whenever Nani plays on the left he looks a different player (in the good way)
 
He was much better on the right tonight than he was on the left, and it's been that way all season.
 
OneUnited24 said:
I would still rather see him than Valencia... And Nani wasnt that bad tonight (in the second half) i just think he shouldnt play on the right, whenever Nani plays on the left he looks a different player (in the good way)
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I was perhaps a tad harsh on him, he made a good cross and took it past somebody.
 
Brwned said:
He was much better on the right tonight than he was on the left, and it's been that way all season.
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Aye, he played well today. People who critise is 1st half display are fecking muppets who need their heads banged together. The whole TEAM was awful in the 1st half, stop scapegoating.

He unfortunatly went off the boil in the 2nd half when Valencia came on and he was forced to go on the left. He was ripping poor Richardson apart in the first 20mins of the 2nd half. I'm pleased with him this year, he's getting more games and should improve as the season progress'.

I do still wince at the play acting mind. He needs to be a man and sort that out because it makes him look like a complete tool.
 
He was terrible yesterday but so was everyone else, I thought in the last 5 minutes he actually found some form and his deliveries were quite good, shame he couldn't do that the rest of the match.
 
Name Changed said:
In my honest opinion, Nani is very frustrating.

For 15 minutes in a match, he can look brilliant, beating his man, putting in great crosses. For the other 75 minutes, he does the opposite. Puts in woeful crosses and loses the ball consistently. Now and again he will have a great match, but his next 4 will be woeful.

The potential is there for him to be a quality player. Although one of his problems is that his consistency doesn't seem to be improving. As another poster said, he was probably better in his first season.

Sometimes he is great. Sometimes he is brutal. Because he has so much potential, it makes it all the more frustrating.
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Spot on!
 
Ixion said:
He was terrible yesterday but so was everyone else, I thought in the last 5 minutes he actually found some form and his deliveries were quite good, shame he couldn't do that the rest of the match.
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TBF to Nani he does tend to put in some really good balls but none of our strikers are really good at heading
 
And not to mention his tracking back today. But Richardson under a helluva lot of pressure. And Andy Reid as well. He made a couple of brilliant tackles from the back. And his pressure on Richardson almost lead to Rooney scoring in the second half. People here make him out to be a faar worse player than his performance last night deserved. He was arguably one of out better players for the entire game. Think he and Berba need to gel quickly, cos if they do, the team will improve a helluva lot.
 
There was one moment about 25 minutes from the end where a stat flashed up, saying Nani cross completion - 0%. Pretty unfortunate.

Frustrating is the word. If he was shit it would be easier to take. Imagine how the disciples would have felt if Jesus had kept turning water into Ribena. They'd have thought: "This man clearly has something about him, but if we wanted Ribena we'd just buy a bottle of cordial. Sort it out man, we want booze!"

That is how I feel watching Nani.
 
Brwned said:
He was much better on the right tonight than he was on the left, and it's been that way all season.
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It's not that simple.

He was completely shit on the right wing in the first half and he's been poor on both flanks in various games this season as well as putting in his best performance of all on the left wing (against Wigan).
 
He was rubbish on the left and right in the first half, although he only played on the left for about 15 minutes. He was then pretty average on the left wing in the second half overall, whereas he was very good for a 20 minute spell on the right.

I'd not actually seen the Wigan match but that's interesting to hear.

Should point out that I only meant he was much better on the right in that game, I don't think he's much better there overall. I do think he's better but I don't think it makes a big difference.
 
I haven't a clue which wing Nani is better on, to be honest.

One thing he does very well is cutting in and shooting, which he can do more effectively on the left. He also has a habit of always checking back before crossing (a habit which winds me up no end) and again, this should suit him playing on the left, where he can check onto his right foot.

feck knows though, you get the feeling he's as likely to be brilliant on either flank as he is to be atrocious, often in the same game!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I haven't a clue which wing Nani is better on, to be honest.

One thing he does very well is cutting in and shooting, which he can do more effectively on the left. He also has a habit of always checking back before crossing (a habit which winds me up no end) and again, this should suit him playing on the left, where he can check onto his right foot.
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Yeah, I've said the same in the past on here.

His main problem with crossing, IMHO, is that he doesn't hit a particularly good ball when he's running full pelt. That being the case, being on the left and turning back on himself-though frustrating for the strikers-allows him that bit more time to steady himself.

It's not ideal, but at the moment it's what we're stuck with.
 
Bet365 are streaming it for those who are interested.
 
Nani will turn out a great player for us.

If he's playing consistently, he himself will find consistency.
 
Kraftwerker said:
Great finish. That's why, despite his infuriating inconsistency, I like to see him in the line-up. He's unpredictable, and can pull something like that out of the bag - something very few of our other players can do.
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Very true, unfortunately hes more miss than hit right now and the more he plays badly the more his confidence dips and the shiter he plays. But reckon we should send him to the reserves for a while like we did with Anderson - after andersons spell there he came back a different player
 
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