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When he matures probably........
Spot on. Memories of many on here are too short.
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I think he plays to deep. That's for starters. We know he can't shoot. However sometimes I wonder where the spark/energy is. Sometimes he seems to go through the motions. Where does the energy go? His best performance this season is still that reserve game.
Yes the opponants were younger so it was easier but he seemed to thrive on it. Where are the runs gone? Where's that bit of confidence? Because he's doing ok but he's not standing out. He's young but he's not played THAT much football. However I guess Rooney went through a similar period so maybe Anderson is similar in that respect.
He would have to improve beyond recoginition to play like ronaldinho - not even ronaldinho can play like he used too. It would be cruel if he developed like ronaldinho but maintained the shooting ability of gary neville.
Yes the opponants were younger so it was easier but he seemed to thrive on it. Where are the runs gone? Where's that bit of confidence? Because he's doing ok but he's not standing out. He's young but he's not played THAT much football. However I guess Rooney went through a similar period so maybe Anderson is similar in that respect.
He would have to improve beyond recoginition to play like ronaldinho - not even ronaldinho can play like he used too. It would be cruel if he developed like ronaldinho but maintained the shooting ability of gary neville.
Maybe. But I doubt it. I feel ala Rooney he is going through slow, painful but necessary advancements in his play. After all we are converting into a CM from a pure in the hole player.
Yet when you recall games like the Arsenal demolition in the fa cup. You see why he should.
So?
Then signed for the talent grave yard of Liverpool.
Toni Kroos is not a ''who'' at all. He is currently shining at Leverkursen on loan from Bayern Munich.
Agree with everything.
+ Kroos is doing feckin well at Leverkusen.
People should really think about this: If Fletcher who wasn't the best bar none in the world at any point in his development, was given time by SAF and is now literally our most in form midfielder, possibly our best and is one of our most consistent performers.
How much more could the same happen for someone who was the best bar none in his age group at one point prior to his joining United?
How much more could the same happen for someone who was the best bar none in his age group at one point prior to his joining United?
Hold on, didn't you say games?
Care to add another to that long list?
I should delete this thread for the lolz.
2 champions league demolitions of Arsenal. Just last season. How is that for 'length''?
(Since you alone brought up length)
2 champions league demolitions of Arsenal. Just last season. How is that for 'length''?
(Since you alone brought up length)
Not to forget his game this season against Chelsea, Tottenham and Wolfsburg
2 champions league demolitions of Arsenal. Just last season. How is that for 'length''?
(Since you alone brought up length)
Both Fletcher and Carrick outshone Anderson in all 3 of those matches against Arsenal.
No they did not. In the FA cup game Anderson was the best player on pitch bar none. Things all utterly irrelevant to the point I was making to Pogue.
Never.
Anderson can become a very good attacking player in his own right, if he transforms the attacking side of his game. For me he needs to show more bravery and get himself into dangerous positions. With his pace, passing and power he really should be assisting more goals and troubling defences.
2 champions league demolitions of Arsenal. Just last season. How is that for 'length''?
(Since you alone brought up length)
Were not allowed to mention them, we just have to say he's useless, will never make it, can't pass and put the term "Hollywood Ball" in every second sentence.I've already mentioned the games against Chelsea (where we created feck all) and Wolfsburg (where we were overrun for long periods). Add Spurs to that very short list and you've got a total of three games where he was at least influential (albeit not very creative). Out of how many?
I think my "Liam Miller every second game" comment is being kind, if anything.
Don't you think the slating of Anderson is eerily similar to the slating of a certain Darren 'can't pass the ball' Flecther? This whole thread is seriously spooky in that it is so strikingly similar to how people crucified Fletcher after every game we played. I remember things like: "He can't pass...his technique is poor...he disappears...he keeps losing the ball...he can't compare to the Gerrards and Scholes of this world"...Weird, eh?
It's also eerily similar to the slating of a certain Kieran 'my cousin's a bitch' Richardson. Weird, eh?
Also worth bearing in mind that Fletcher was growing up in public at a time when the competition for his place came from the likes of Phil Neville and Alan Smith. I still think Anderson will become a decent enough player but I draw the line at 'tards who insist that Anderson should be starting games ahead of players in our team who are clearly a helluva lot better at the basics of playing in central midfield than he is.
As long as you don't slate Berbatov, Fletcher or Carrick it's ok for him.
If you don't see the difference in Richardson's potential and Anderson's than there is something not right Pogue.
All of whom would be part of our best XI, based on what they've already shown this season.
This is in contrast to Anderson and Nani who have done nothing this season to suggest they should be in the starting XI. Hence, I tend to disagree with people who think they should be.
Well I agree with this, what I don't like in your posts though to some extent Pogue, is that you pretty easily start to give names or slate others that don't agree with you, calling them tards or mentally ill, and there is no need for that.
Oh and btw, Carrick hastn done that well this season in my opinion and wouldnt get into my best XI for this season
sometimes there is Godfather, when someone is being uneccessarily thran/stubborn and refusing to acknowledge through their own eyes what 99% of other fans are telling them
Well just ignore them I would say, trying to get itno any kind of discussion wouldn't lead to any kind of result anyway and they would get the attention they are seeking for
I know, but its more fun to call them a twerp
Well then I use 'tards as an abbreviation for "caftards", not intended as an insult at all.
I only imply people are mentally ill when they suggest we drop our best and most consisent midfielder all season and replace him with Anderson, after two poor games (despite the fact that Anderson himself has been absolutely dire in his most recent couple of games).
Well then we agree about him not starting ahead of Fletcher and Carrick.
However the point I tried to make is that central mids usually take a lot longer to reach their peak than players in other positions bar goalkeepers. There are but a handful of central mids who have been at the top of their game before the age of say 25. I have seen enough from Anderson to know that he can do it eventually, now it is time to wait and see. Same thing I did with Fletcher in his dark years. I kept telling the doubters on here to give him time. Seems like we have a lot of converts.
Well I've already said that I agree with your point...
Can't agree with this "in his most recent" games though, he was class against Burnley when he came on, miles better than Carrick in this game, but I agree he was shit against City.
Really? I mean granted against Chelsea chances were few and far between but it was just the nature of the game, we created enough chances and our movement was good (Andersons in particular was very good and against a midfield of Lampard, Deco and Ballack he did very well), Wolfsburg we must have watched different games because i though we were quite good in that game sure they scored and we looked a bit second rate at times overall i thought it was a good performance.
The fundamental issue is his physical conditioning. He looks overweight and cumbersome at the moment. He was utterly irrelevant against Man City; off the pace and just ambling around the field contributing nothing to the game. It's worrying that a professional player at a club like United can be so out of shape, with no discernible reason as to why this is the case.
Do you seriously believe that? We would field a player if he was so patently unfit?
He looks no bigger that Rooney IMO. The fundamental point has nothing to do with his conditioning it's to do with ability and what he brings to the team. Apart from fleeting glimpses of good form I don't see what value he brings.
I think a lack of fitness was a problem in previous seasons, when he seemed to always burn out at around the hour mark.
I agree that this doesn't seem to be a problem this season though. In his (relatively rare) good performances he's been lasting the pace as well as anyone on the pitch.
I think he ends up wandering around aimlessly more because he doesn't know where to position himself, rather than because he's too knackered to get there.
I feel that's the thing that annoys me so much. I've heard that he's been groomed as a Scholes replacement which begs the question; Why play him in a box to box role which he appears to do? He really can't defend well enough. He likes to go forward clearly so is he being asked to do something he can't. I ask because I really don't know anymore
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