Really??? Your posts don't make you come across as someone who sees park as a vital player at all.
PARK-A true unsung hero
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Really??? Your posts don't make you come across as someone who sees park as a vital player at all.
I'm not going to repeat myself .... again. Try actually reading my posts and you'll see why yours was pointless.
The lads really hit a purple patch after that Arsenal game. But can he sustain it for an entire season? I'm not sure. I think he's always going to be loved because no matter what he does he's fully commited and a managers dream. But I think against truly elite opposition we might see some cracks in his game. Even today against Liverpool he looked out of sorts in the first half. Ok, he vindicated himself in the second with the goal but had it been Barca I'm not sure he would have remained on for more then 60 minutes.
I love the lad, and it's clear as day he's loving the free role behind Rooney, but if we were to pickup a David Silva, Modric or even a Kaka (yeah, not going to happen but that shouldn't stop us from dreaming right) I think there would still be a place in the team for Park because he's such a solid performer anywhere in midfield.
I love the lad, and it's clear as day he's loving the free role behind Rooney, but if we were to pickup a David Silva, Modric or even a Kaka (yeah, not going to happen but that shouldn't stop us from dreaming right) I think there would still be a place in the team for Park because he's such a solid performer anywhere in midfield.
Kind of overstating it, but I can sort of see where you're coming from with the whole 'fearless' angle.
It was nothing like Ronaldo's against Roma. Do you mean Ronaldo's against Sporting?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaguely
I thought he was garbage today. As Alan Pardew loves to say on national TV, he had the first touch of a rapist
Then he goes and bags the winner against the Scousers
Football eh!
Then he goes and bags the winner against the Scousers
Football eh!
He was shite, kept giving the ball away... can't understand the MotM ratings at all.
That's the thing though. Just scoring the goal is worthy of praise in itself. It's the deluded opinion of some posters that just because he scored it means he had a great game that makes me laugh. He was rubbish for most of the game. His passing was off, he got outmuscled very easily a few times and his poor first touch rendered the fact that he'd got himself into some good attacking positions quite useless. Why people cant praise him for the things he did well and be honest about the aspects of his game that are severely lacking is beyond me.
The Roma goal came from a floated high cross into the box that Ronaldo met with a bullet header after arriving late into the box. Nothing like today's goal.
The Sporting goal was a low cross in between the defence and goalkeeper that Ronaldo scored with a diving header. Very much like today's goal.
You should take your own advice and reassess your definition of 'vaguely', because at the moment you seem to think it means, "is nothing alike whatsoever".
Possibly the most pointless argument on the forum right now.
I'm struggling to think of many headers less like the one against Roma.
There was a Frank Stapleton one from the edge of the area, and that one Gascoigne scored from a long Ince ball, where he curled it in. That was probably a bit less like it.
There was a Frank Stapleton one from the edge of the area, and that one Gascoigne scored from a long Ince ball, where he curled it in. That was probably a bit less like it.
Yeah but he said 'vaguely'. Don't you know anything?
He had a poor game overall, his goal won't change much of that.
But he doesn't have permanently poor technique, it was an off day. Like every player has.
No, I was just amused by your seeming inability to leave anything alone and wanted to see how far you'd take it since I was still unsure (since you seem perfectly normal at other times) whether you do what you do on purpose or whether you just can't control it. 16 went quite a bit overboard/hasn't seen many headers, but certainly did his/her best to qualify the judgement. Then you come along and make as if he said OMFG SOOO JUST LIKE RONALDO IN ROMA instead of "Gee, I can't quite figure out myself why I feel this way since it makes no sense whatsoever but in some inarticulable way-" (the preceding being the definition of vaguely that 16 intended, btw) "-that headed goal kind of reminded me of Roma."
So anyway, experiment having been successful, I notice a pattern with you (hopefully you'll do the same and notice I rarely have harsh words for anyone, so don't take it personally as you'll be inclined to - instead, take it as a chance to reflect) but you seem to do this sort of thing a lot, and what I thought might have been intentional WUMmery actually seems to be confused, attention-seeking behaviour.
Nice and humble lad. His english is coming along quite well too
He does it again! 1:44: "Now we just concentrate on our pokemon season."
I thought he was unusually poor today. I was just telling my mate he should be subbed for Giggs or Scholes seconds before he scored. (None of that off at half time bollocks though.)
Goals against Arsenal, AC Milan and Liverpool. You can't argue with that, brilliant player.
I thought he was unusually poor today. I was just telling my mate he should be subbed for Giggs or Scholes seconds before he scored. (None of that off at half time bollocks though.)
Goals against Arsenal, AC Milan and Liverpool. You can't argue with that, brilliant player.
His first half was bad, his secodn half was outstanding.
He's Rooney's best partner in the squad... Hate to break it to the Berbalovers but Park behind Rooney (No homo) has been as effective and influential recently as Rooney-Saha and Rooney-RVN as their best.
He obviously lacks some skills but he's not supposed to be World Class, so why you keep driving that down the throats of his supporters is "beyond me"
No it wasn't.
No he isn't.
I'm not driving anything down anybody's throat. I'm expressing my opinion, which is exactly what the forum is for. And it seems from a few of the replies above that my opinion of his performance today is shared by some of the more sensible members of this forum.
Oh yes, the ones who share your opinion are the "more sensible" members... Sheer coincidence surely?
You're Anti-Park is as bad as ILF's "Anti-Fletcher"... You can't be anything but bitter even when the player you DON'T rate seems to hit a peak of form that expands over a week or 2.
- He had a great second half after a horrible first half, and it was only sweetened by the fact he scored a goal his persistance deserved.
- Him and Rooney are turning into a very interesting and effective partnership, i've never seen him play this well with Berbatov, Owen, Welbeck or Macheda, and it's reminding me of the clinics off-the-ball he used to put forward with RVN, and the understanding he had with Saha... So why would you "
" When that's MY opinion and is more evident then hidden?I don't know who made you the dogs bollocks but I don't see any sort of crown on your head to make your opinion and word gospel.
Park Ji-Sung has always been a big-game player with high energy and limited technical skills on the ball... Fergie has re-invented Parks role in the team as Rooney's supporting partner in a 4-5-1 and both his attacking skills and positioning have improved ten-fold, which seems to compliment his work rate perfectly... It's the role he plays for South Korea and it's fantastic Fergie has finally given it a extended change in the United team.
I don't understand why you have a gripe... Did your bird leave you for a Korean man? I don't get it.
Yes she did, and his 3 inch penis was 2 inches bigger than mine.
That, unfortunately, was the only part of your post I could reply to without repeating myself.
That, unfortunately, was the only part of your post I could reply to without repeating myself.
Searl, I agree that Logan is a bit silly when it comes to Park, but this
is just ridiculous. However, being giddy and over the top is allowed today.
Yes she did, and his 3 inch penis was 2 inches bigger than mine.
That, unfortunately, was the only part of your post I could reply to without repeating myself.
Or my valuation of Park is as false as the length of your genetalia and you're letting me look a fool.
Lose-lose
Yeah AS you seem a little crazy tonite how many beers did you have the pub
Liverpool (H)
Milan (A)
Milan (H)
That's all pretty recent.
I want this to continue for Chelsea and I believe it will.
Eight, and healthcare in the USA is going to be as free as Canadians, the world is weird, maybe i'll wake up and laugh at this but I think Rooney-Park is a brilliant partnership with some big-match potential.
How so? Fact is that SAF sees what Searl is saying. how else will you explain Berba's absence from big games?
That formation is necessitated by SAF's belief of the best players who will give him the best chance to win.
I don't want to think that you believe he just loves 4-5-1 so much so that he will leave Berba on the bench just to play that formation.
Fact is, he now sees Park as a more important player in big games than Berba. There is no arguing that and I thought that is what Searl was implying.
4-5-1 is the formation we use for big games because Fergie likes to play a 3 man central midfield. It's a fluid formation that changes from 4-5-1 in defence to 4-3-3 in attack. 4-4-2 is a more rigid formation that Fergie likes to employ against the lesser teams because generally we can still dominate with a 2 man midfield.
It's more a case of the midfield dictating the number of strikers we play with, rather than the quality of the strikers dictating the formation.
I can't deny that Park is great for the big games, in fact I've said it repeatedly, but we'd play 4-5-1 in the big games even if Park was injured.
That's true
If Berba could bother to strain himself beyond jogging every match, then I reckon he could get in the team ahead of Park in the position behind Rooney. The only reason Park plays there is to pressure the team and assist the midfield. It's unlikely that he will though. Without Scholes on the pitch, not as much is created through the middle, but if Berba did work harder then Park wouldn't get in there. However with Scholes playing, Park should play, as Scholes presence upfield is lacking, and Berba wouldn't be needed.
Park is faster than Berba, his defence is better than Berba
so he is choosen over Berba for this type of match
So Park and Rooney is as good as Rooney's partnerships with Saha and Ruud at their best? Give over. I'm a big fan of Park and am more than happy to see him in the starting lineup but Ruud and Saha were immense for us.
You really are very tedious. To compare Park's outside of the foot cross with Nani's is ridiculous. One is something you expect most players to be able to do, the other was one that very few players can do.
Actually I'm finding very tedious your inability to recognise skill in a player you have (for your own purposes) decided has not enough of it.
I actually do think Nani's was the better pass - but the margin is not as much as you claim.
Your earlier description of how much better Nani's pass was than anything Park could do was OTT - like your original post in this thread. You indulge in hyperbole both in describing Nani's skill and downplaying Park's ("Awful touch. Awful passing. Awful player.") - and seem to believe that conceding he's useful in big games balances this out entirely. It doesn't.
I'd agree with most of this - but the goal does change things somewhat.
Having the knack of making important contributions (of whatever type) in big games improves the reputation.
It's another skill he possesses of which Park 'can only dream'.
Ron Ron would be proud of the header . Sexy as.
. Sexy as.Park in the middle.
Now i don't mean to say i told you so but......
Fergie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cw1984 >>> Berlinknives, WireRed + Allforone.
FWIW Park wasnt that great. But still
Now i don't mean to say i told you so but......
Why is everyone putting Park in their middle 3? He played there to mark the deep-lying playmaker Pirlo.
Liverpool don't have anyone like that so Park either plays on the wing or on the bench IMO.
Before anyone says Gerrard, that'd mean Park as our holding midfielder
Indeed. Square pegs in round holes spring to mind.
Lucas and Ratboy couldn't create anything if they're lives depended on it, so there's no need to man-mark Liverpool's deeper midfield players.
People even suggested dropping Carrick to accomadate a winger in CM
Fergie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cw1984 >>> Berlinknives, WireRed + Allforone.
FWIW Park wasnt that great. But still
Good stuff cw, I kept bringing up the point yesterday that there were a lot of idiots who though Park in the middle was a dreadful idea and that SAF wouldn't go for it.
Park was pretty good once we gain control of midfield in the second half.
Park was pretty good once we gain control of midfield in the second half.
It's his movement that's particularly impressive. If only he could stop slipping over! I'm sure he greases up his boots!