Sorry, can't agree with that.
Before going into a big game, a team needs momentum.
Ten changes is too much. And you can't take anything for granted - all CL games are must win if you arent through already.
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Sorry, can't agree with that.
Before going into a big game, a team needs momentum.
Ten changes is too much. And you can't take anything for granted - all CL games are must win if you arent through already.
We barely even created anything and we were the home side, dreadful stuff from us.. great result for Rangers and they did what they could do with a side with limited talent. We barely looked a class above and that was the more worrying thing
I would bow my head in shame if United ever played like Rangers did tonight.
I dont think we will see him again this season
Yeah hoping for more of the same. We should leave out Rooney, Berba, Scholes, Nani, Vidic for Valencia away and play the under 18's
wasnt a bad performance, they kept going, rangers did nothing but defend, any team would have struggled to score, no big deal - it's early days
Get fecked.
Berba and Nani should at least been on the bench. And my initial fears about Chicha are coming true.
Only positives from this match
Defence - yes, I know Rangers offered nothing going forward, but Wes, Rio and Fabio, all needed some time on the pitch, and all did ok.
Defence - yes, I know Rangers offered nothing going forward, but Wes, Rio and Fabio, all needed some time on the pitch, and all did ok.
Surely Rooney,Valencia,Park,Hernandes and Fletcher should be enough to put one past this Ranger's side?
It more has to do with the performance on the pitch rather than what we put on today.
What did you expect? And our approach was hardly any different from what English clubs have used against Barcelona in recent seasons.
Fergie must take full responsibility for that debarcle, team selection stunk and no amount of whinging about Rangers tactics will change that, he got it all wrong took the game for granted left out all our best creative players against a side we knew would pack the defence and it cost us, a midfield of Park flecther and co couldnt create shit all night.
Solid performance by Rangers. Shite football, but effective against a much stronger side.
Bizzare selection by Fergire, took Rangers to fold against us, no sign of that. Disappointing selection, but looking foward to Liverpool.
Bizzare selection by Fergire, took Rangers to fold against us, no sign of that. Disappointing selection, but looking foward to Liverpool.
Our other performances haven't been shite. Just some lapses at the end of two.
That was shite though. Looked pretty clueless, but not much you can do against such a parked bus.
Bad performance from us but at least we were trying to score and kept going forward. Rangers are just an embarrassment IMO, same tactics all the time. Really hope they go out early again. Battle of Britain my arse, papers better not use that again.
Some nice shots from Gibson but just couldn't break our way through their walls. Don't think the team selection would have made much difference in a game like that. Shame about Valencia too.
Some nice shots from Gibson but just couldn't break our way through their walls. Don't think the team selection would have made much difference in a game like that. Shame about Valencia too.
So I guess a draw is sometimes a win for Rangers fans.
then bow mate because we just about did tonight.
no sense of urgency until extra time and even then no real attempts.
Ah, it's fine. We'll still win the group, Rangers will still fail to qualify for the next round and Cafites will still blame every draw or defeat on Park and Fletcher.
The Wheel of Time keeps turning.
The Wheel of Time keeps turning.
The caf is crashing down on me. Too many people raging.
That was abysmal.
Im sorry we had to suffer through that. But our next game is another biggie and I expect a response. Something has surely got to wake this team from their slumber. The players were different but in the end, the result was the same. Just not good enough really.
Im sorry we had to suffer through that. But our next game is another biggie and I expect a response. Something has surely got to wake this team from their slumber. The players were different but in the end, the result was the same. Just not good enough really.
people need to see the bigger picture and chill the feck out
What fears? Can you blame him. When our midfield is as shocking and pathetic as it was today no striker would have done anything half useful.
It's a match we should be winning. Now it puts more pressure on us to get a win away in Turkey as well as at Rangers and Valencia. Piss poor.
What was most worrying about the game was that our only "attacking option" was to pass to Gibson and hope he does something.
shite game alright. not too bothered about it though but made a whole lot worse by Valencia's injury.
Not really mate, we didn't have the tools on the night to break down their negative tactics but it doesn't mean we didn't try. Rangers always do that in Europe, that's why they don't get anywhere. Thank god we don't let them in our league.
Hilarious one aren't you!
C'mon, get over it. Poor performance, nontheless very solid Rangers defence. Didn't have the players on the pitch who would open up the defence, Nani or Scholes definitely should hace come on.
Yeah but Fergie decided it's not worth keeping Scholes, Nani and Berba in the squad.
...Well done Ferguson.
Worst United game I've ever seen, and a spit in the face to everyone who paid to see the game.
Wholesale changes don't do a team any favours.
Rooney hasn't been in the greatest of form, Valencia hasn't played for a while, Hernandes is still settling in.
Teamwork isn't always about the best players, and you can't make a cohesive team unless you play a basically regular side with two or three changes as and when.
Fergie has his ways of putting a boot up the backsides of players.
The team that was out there 'should' have done the job....and the players dropped should have got the message, while he also needed to rest the players he did.
Credit to Rangers for the getting the point they set out to get.
It is no disaster to get a point in the CL group stage.
We will win away matches.
The team that was out there 'should' have done the job....and the players dropped should have got the message, while he also needed to rest the players he did.
Credit to Rangers for the getting the point they set out to get.
It is no disaster to get a point in the CL group stage.
We will win away matches.
Oh come on. I expect you said we'd win tonight.
There are no guarantees! You play your best side, hopefully grab a couple of goals, and then bring on subs. Not the other way round.
Should win in Turkey. We are poor in Spain so can't see us winning there. Rangers will park the bus again in the return leg. We can't afford to rest players in the remaining games now because we're likely to drop some points in our next game (valencia)
We have the dippers in the weekend and Scholes should be rested for that. Rooney hasn't played for weeks now. He needed some match practise as he should start against Liverpool, same goes for Valencia who replaced Nani on the right.
We had enough quality on the pitch to see off the game. All of our attacking players underperformed.
Can't see the starting lineup taking the blame, rather than what we had on the bench.
If we had to throw in Valencia and Rooney in without match practise I'd much rather do that today, rather than against Pool.
I must be old-fashioned then.
I think we should go out to win every game, and rotate players 2 or 3 at a time in order to maintain momentum and rhythm.
You can't make a solid team if you constantly change it.
Why and for what? Did you contribute in anyway to the line-up? Or did you force people to watch the game?
disagree, playing at home we should always look for the win, a point at home is not a great way to start our campaign, Bursaspor and Valencia are no mugs either, this is going to be tricky group for us to qualify now.
With it being a home game against arguably the weakest side in the group the result is very disappointing, I doubt it will hurt our qualifying but it may cost us first place.
Ten changes is excessive and was bound to hurt the rhythm of the team, and I think not having our most in form striker at least on the bench was a bad call, as well as leaving Nani out altogether, but the players that were out there should have done better, the fact we didn't force a single save out of their keeper or look remotely creative until Giggs came on his very poor.
Ten changes is excessive and was bound to hurt the rhythm of the team, and I think not having our most in form striker at least on the bench was a bad call, as well as leaving Nani out altogether, but the players that were out there should have done better, the fact we didn't force a single save out of their keeper or look remotely creative until Giggs came on his very poor.
We'll have more chance of beating them at their place I reckon. They may fancy their chances and actually spread the field a bit for us to penetrate into. As per usual a team comes away with a win draw at the theatre of dreams and its the result of the year for them and their fans.We always bring out the best in em coz as soon as the fixtures are out thats the one their lookin at. Fair play to Rangers,they got a point and took two. Lookin forward to the return leg.Rangers play dunde Utd on the weekend and ours is a little bigger....which brings me to the team today.....
As far as Fergie's selection,this is why we have a squad.To be able to play them and a changed team in a midweek game before a big game against say....Liverpool. It's early days and we can look at what didn't work or we could look at the positives like another poster said of a pretty strong and returning back 4.
Bring on the scallies~Get well soon Antonio,we'll miss you !
As far as Fergie's selection,this is why we have a squad.To be able to play them and a changed team in a midweek game before a big game against say....Liverpool. It's early days and we can look at what didn't work or we could look at the positives like another poster said of a pretty strong and returning back 4.
Bring on the scallies~Get well soon Antonio,we'll miss you !
I agree Livvie. One or two is acceptable, but ten isn't IMO. Far too many changes like that can disrupt the side and that was shown last night. Let's hope we can bounce back in style (and with the right players) against Liverpool on Sunday.