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This made me chuckle
well he is sticking his boots on our plight....
This made me chuckle
Thats just my opinion. I know there are plenty of threads around regarding Rooney, but if I tried to say this in any of them, it would just be lost among the masses of hysteria and outrage.
I've just read that letter to Rooney sent by the stretfordend, so the inspiration of this thread is from there. Also, hearing different views and learning new information has changed my thoughts repeatedly in the last hour or so, so I apoligise if I say anything contradictory that I may have said elsewhere.
Man Utd fans have traditionally always supported their players even through the worst of times. Ronaldo is recently the most famous example of this, with the 2006 World Cup scandal and continuing to support him even after he had asked for a move to Madrid in 2008(makes you wonder the difference between that and what Rooney has done...).
I think Rooney will stay. This is just my gut feeling, but I think it will happen. What are his motivations for leaving? Its quite likely something has happened behind the scenes (i.e. shagging Vidic's wife and attempting to get as far the feck away as possible), but there are 3 main deciding factors.
Getting away from the media
Money
Ambition
Getting away from the media: This would mean a move abroad (obviously, for you numbnuts out there). Lets face it, the media are cnuts in this country and although they may be as worse elsewhere, the scrutiny on players is usually at its worse when the said player is plying his trade in the country of origin, i.e. Rooney getting stick by the English press playing in England, Torres getting stick by the Spanish press playing in Spain. Had the allegations of his private life come out and Rooney was playing in Spain, it would've been nowhere near as intense in that country. A breakaway from the media may help him resolve his family issues.
Thing is, I just dont see it happening. Madrid dont need him and have even admitted that, Wayne isnt the brightest spark so learning a new language would be difficult, whilst the most important thing here is that he's quite likely to be sent off in every match...The culture is completely different.
Money: Wayne, please dont let this be true. Theres only one destiniation that would fulfil this motivation that couldnt be done here and thats City. I had always thought of Rooney as someone that "would play for £500-a-week", so i'd be disappointed in him because of that perception more than anything.
Ambition: A move to Chelsea perhaps? A lack of transfer spending in recent years may have made him question the clubs ambition. Apparently he refused to sign a contract August 14th. This would mean the transfer window would still be open so can he use that as an excuse?...but its also scarily close to the day Ozil signed for Madrid. I jest, but Chelsea are the reigning Champions and continue to look seemingly invincible, but even then I wouldnt be able to understand this decision if ambition was the deciding factor. We went 2 years without winning anything while he was here.
I think now everything has been made public, he will understand that leaving Man Utd is a close reality. Legends such as Sir Bobby Charlton, Giggs, Neville etc are sure to have a word with him. The grass isnt always greener. He has up until January 1st to decide and I think he will be persuaded to sign the reportedly £160,000-a-week contract by us. A move elsewhere just doesnt add up.
I also think some of the replies have been just a tad harsh...I know its all said in the heat of moment and it may come as a shock to most - if not all - of our fans, but I genuinely dont think he wanted it to be known this way. What do you all suggest he had done?
I think the most important thing to consider is that, like i've said, something may have gone on behind the scenes that we dont know, which is why he wants out, but I just have this feeling that whatever the result, be it Rooney goes or stays, there will be a happy ending for Man Utd and at the end of the day, thats all that matters.
To be honest, I'm so angry I might play football manager and use it to manually lower all of Rooney's stats.
That'll teach him
Ahh but he acted the same way at Everton.
Fergie said that Rooney told him he was "adamant" to leave. So there you are.
SAF said Rooney was adamant he wants to leave.
REdknapp did not manage to convince joe cole signing for spurs let alone rooney
Or it could just be that he's upset with the situation and how it's panned out.SAF looking so deflated - could this be the beginning of him calling it time on and retiring as well?
I really need to get over what exactly? Rose tinted glasses? You know my entire opinion from one post on the subject, do you? feck off you patronising pillock.Rooney is not top 5 in the world at his position. You really need to get over it. He doesn't even have a recognized position that his solely his. Supporters wanted him in the hole, SAF said he is best used as a CF and played him as a true no.9 and on the left wing in the past. His best season was when he played leading the line. He's only had one stand out season and even then he wasn't THAT great. Your rose tinted glasses are still on, take them off.
True, he isn't the most clinical striker around but the work he puts in that you don't get from most of his peers doesn't exactly count for nothing, does it? The argument that he turns in for pre-season unfit and isn't as disciplined in training as Ronaldo (like you know for a fact) means jack shit in the discussion on whether the lad is a world class player.He comes into every pre-season unfit, lacks the training discipline of Ronaldo. Every season he goes through a patch of inconsistency. For a striker he is nowhere near as clinical as his peers in front of goal.
Well, you've certainly got me there. That is a real shitter. What, with him being Brazilian and all....His first touch and technical ability on the ball are that of a Englishman.
Agreed. I don't know why everybody is acting surprised. He has always had a c*ntish side to his character and obviously loyalty has always been a value he doesn't know. I was never buying into the 'oooh, Rooney is such a passionate footballer and a die hard Red' thing. Rooney is a mercenary and quite a bad one.
As long as we buy a proper replacement, he can sod off as far as I am concerned. I always hated his attitude and lack of discipline and unfortunately the last weeks have confirmed that impression.
All I hope is that he doesn't join City and that we get upwards of £35m odd to spend again.
If he does join City guaranteed you won't hear the end of it "once a blue always a blue" "welcome to manchester" times 1000.
exactly the same way.
My husband ( an Evertonian ) followed Rooney's game closely - even making me watch him in the Youth Cup, telling me he was going to be the next big thing.
I watched him lift his shirt with a t shirt on underneath saying " once a blue, always a blue " and then he left to join us the next season.
Now he telle me he knows how I feel.
Tbh, I'm not nearly as upset as when Ronaldo left.
I'd rather not have a little shit like him in our shirt !
His new club want him to join in January and needed him to force the issue perhaps?
I'm more shocked. We all knew Ronaldo was about to move....but Rooney?!! it was totally out of the blue.
Nothing like trading the CL for the EL.Plus he wouldn't be cup tied for the Europa League for City, would he?
Agreed. I don't know why everybody is acting surprised. He has always had a c*ntish side to his character and obviously loyalty has always been a value he doesn't know. I was never buying into the 'oooh, Rooney is such a passionate footballer and a die hard Red' thing. Rooney is a mercenary and quite a bad one.
As long as we buy a proper replacement, he can sod off as far as I am concerned. I always hated his attitude and lack of discipline and unfortunately the last weeks have confirmed that impression.
out of the blue yes, but he's been so rubbish lately, do you really care, Spoony?
His first touch and technical ability on the ball are that of a Englishman.
I really hope that picture is a hit job by Wes. If anything this whole sordid affair will help people appreciate the likes of O'Shea alot more... shit yes, but fecking loyal.
exactly the same way.
My husband ( an Evertonian ) followed Rooney's game closely - even making me watch him in the Youth Cup, telling me he was going to be the next big thing.
I watched him lift his shirt with a t shirt on underneath saying " once a blue, always a blue " and then he left to join us the next season.
Now he telle me he knows how I feel.
Tbh, I'm not nearly as upset as when Ronaldo left.
I'd rather not have a little shit like him in our shirt !
Then you need to re-evaluate your defition of "close"
I'm hoping Rooney has misunderstood SAF's reasons for dropping him & given a little time to think about it will change his mind & stay.