MERGED: Rooney signs new contract!
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Much as how I would love this to be the case, I seriously doubt Fergie would deliberately sabotage United to do it.
If Fergie had issues with the Glazers then his simplest move to feck them up totally would be to walk out the door.
Well orchestrated or not it conveniently puts Rooney out of the time till maybe the transfer window
I said he had a better chance here than anywhere else, especially City.
You aren't so sure.
very true fred...I was just being a dreamy romantic....
Got no respect for SAF, should sell him asap. Liar and a cnut.
I had a dream I bumped into him in a lift and he told me he was leaving because of Colleen. I stressed how horrific it would be if he went to another English club. The the lift then turned see through and Kolo Toure was standing on a rising block outside the lift til he hit his head on a metal bar. By that time Rooney had disappeared too and the lift I was in had turned into a load of signs advertising cereal, I fell down to the floor and walked off.
No doubt. But the rats won't be doing it out in the open, more like 'sources have told the Mirror/Sun/Guardian/Whatever'.
We all have to face reality here.
City are now, and will contiinue to be a force to be reckoned with.
If a player seriously wants to win trophies and play for the "in team" then the two options are Chelsea and City.
Everyone else is going to become an "also ran".
The balance of power is slowly but surely changing, and where once United and Arsenal dominated football, that domination is going to come from City and Chelsea.
Its back to being mere mortals for United.
So in other words, I didn't say that he was going to win 3 leagues and a European Cup with City over the next 6 years. Thanks for clarifying.
By the way, I don't think City are going to win that much. I certainly don't think for a second that we are going to win 3 leagues and a European Cup over the next 6 years either.
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13 G Roy Carroll 26 NIR 2000 Wigan Athletic
14 G Tim Howard 24 USA 2003 New York MetroStars
G Luke Steele 19 ENG 2002 Peterborough United
6 D Wesley Brown 24 ENG -
5 D Rio Ferdinand 25 ENG 2002 Leeds United
28 D Mark Lynch 22 ENG 2002 St. Johnstone FC
2 D Gary Neville 28 ENG 1991 Bury FC
3 D Philip Neville 26 ENG 1993 Bury FC
22 D John O'Shea 22 IRL 2000 Bournemouth AFC
27 D Mickaël Silvestre 26 FRA 1999 Internazionale FC
D Alan Tate 21 ENG 2003 Swansea City
8 M Nicholas Butt 28 ENG 1991 Oldham Athletic
19 M Eric Djemba 22 CMR 2003 FC Nantes
24 M Darren Fletcher 19 SCO -
25 M Quinton Fortune 26 RSA 1999 Tottenham Hotspur
16 M Roy Keane 32 IRL 1993 Nottingham Forest
15 M Kleberson 24 BRA 2003 Atlético Paranaense
26 M Danny Pugh ENG -
23 M Kieran Richardson 19 ENG 2002 West Ham United
18 M Paul Scholes 29 ENG -
12 F David Bellion 21 FRA 2003 Sunderland AFC
21 F Diego Forlan 24 URU 2002 Independiente Avellaneda
11 F Ryan Giggs 30 WAL 1981 -
7 F Ronaldo 18 POR 2003 Sporting Lisboa
F Louis Saha 25 FRA 2004 Fulham FC
20 F Ole Gunnar Solskjær 28 NOR 1996 Molde FK
10 F Ruud van Nistelrooy 27 NED 2001 PSV EindhovenYou think that is better than what we currently have? Seriously?
Not only is our current squad better, the potential in our current sqaud is much better.
Definitely.
Put the best 11 from that team against the best 11 we have now and theres no comparison. The side we have now looks definitely weaker.
I agree
Its a bit early in the day for a bit of doom and gloom Fred, at least wait until dinner.
I disagree obviously. I don't think United will disappear into obscurity just because of Rooney's treachery. If anything it may just invigorate the club to come out fighting, a fair example would be the 2006 season where everyone wrote us off and said the Ronaldo saga would be our downfall.
4 years later we've been champions 3 times, 2 champions league final ( winning one ) and many more a cup final along the way.
Obviously having Glazer around is still a murky grey cloud but United have lost better players than Rooney. We'll keep moving forward.
Lets look at that squad
Carroll ( weaker )
Neville ( much stronger )
Ferdinand ( stronger )
Wes Brown ( weaker )
Tweetypie ( weaker )
Giggs ( stronger )
Scholes ( stronger )
Keane ( stronger )
Ronaldo ( stronger )
Rooney ( stronger )
Ruud ( stronger ).
Overall I can see three positions where we are weaker back then, than we are now, and ironically they are all defenders.
Carroll ( weaker )
Neville ( much stronger )
Ferdinand ( stronger )
Wes Brown ( weaker )
Tweetypie ( weaker )
Giggs ( stronger )
Scholes ( stronger )
Keane ( stronger )
Ronaldo ( stronger )
Rooney ( stronger )
Ruud ( stronger ).
Overall I can see three positions where we are weaker back then, than we are now, and ironically they are all defenders.
If Fergie can strengthen our squad with absolute quality players (midfielder, winger) and maybe gets a quality striker in, we are as strong as ever before
Current defense and keeper is definitely better.
Upfront Ruud and Rooney yeah would be better than Berbarito.
Midfield well you can't say. Sure Giggs and Scholes were younger then.
It's rather even if you ask me but as someone said the potential in our current team is definitely more.
Van der Sar
Rafael Vidic Rio Evra
Valencia Scholes Fletcher Nani
Berbatov, Hernandez
v
Howard/Carroll
Neville, Brown, Rio, Silvestre
Ronaldo Scholes Keane Giggs
Van Nistelrooy Saha
...
When you consider Keane was on the wane already and Ronaldo was just 18, I don't see how the current side is 'definitely weaker'.
That team with everyone in prime form and with the defense sorted would have been a stunning team
Its a bit early in the day for a bit of doom and gloom Fred, at least wait until dinner.
I disagree obviously. I don't think United will disappear into obscurity just because of Rooney's treachery. If anything it may just invigorate the club to come out fighting, a fair example would be the 2006 season where everyone wrote us off and said the Ronaldo saga would be our downfall.
4 years later we've been champions 3 times, 2 champions league final ( winning one ) and many more a cup final along the way.
Obviously having Glazer around is still a murky grey cloud but United have lost better players than Rooney. We'll keep moving forward.
United wont disappaer into obscurity. Not a hope.
However we are going to be in a position that Arsenal have been in for the last 4-5 seasons. Running close, but not quite able to keep up with the front runners.
United won't go into freefall and collapse like Leeds did, unless the finances drop so sharply that the Glazers are unable to spend anything on players, then we are in deep trouble. However I think that we can realistically expect to see expenditure of maybe £20-25 million a season ( nett ) over the next 5-6 years, and in todays market that simply isnt going to be enough to keep up with City and Chelsea who will be seeing increased prize money, gate revenues, sponsorship revenue etc to boost what they are currently missing out on now.
The main point to what I am saying is that for a period we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that our days of domination are more than likely over. As long as we can keep up in the top 4 then we should be OK. Not great but OK.
If we slip out the top 4 for a sustained period then things will get very dangerous.
Giggs was going through his dry years at that point too if I remember correctly. Infact the only players in real form were Rio, Ronnie, Scholes and Saha.
I have this feeling that some of our players are going to rise to the challenge. Expect god like form from Fletcher, Berbatov and Nani. Everyone will have to up their game from now on, we don't have Rooney/Ronnie carrying them anymore.
Sorry that made me chuckly.
replace all the old players,
Buy a world class midfielder
Buy a world class wide player
Buy a world class striker.
Other than that not alot needs changing.
Colleen… “That’s defo it, this marriage is well over”
Wayne… “No Coleen, I luv ya”
Colleen… “Well if you luved me you wouldn’t be dooin hores, I’m kickin you out an you can visit Kia on Saturdays”
Wayne… “But I can’t see him Saturdays, I play for United Saturdays”
Colleen…”You luv hores and United more than me an Kia”
Wayne… “No I don’t, how can I make it up and show you how much I luv ya”
Colleen… “???? Ermmm leave United and take me an Kia outa dodge (Some where chic and maybe sunny, Colleen regains control and keeps some dignity)
Just a thought.
Wanker.
Haha, you married Fred?
Wanker.
He's not actually kissing the badge there. He's hidden a sandwich in between his teets and he's trying to reach it for a sneaky snack.
What worries me is the fact Rooney, along with Rio, is a very popular member of the dressing room.
Would explain why the team has been playing in such a way lately.
Didn't one newspaper suggest a split through the squad on whats happening?
Really wouldn't surprise me.
Would explain why the team has been playing in such a way lately.
Didn't one newspaper suggest a split through the squad on whats happening?
Really wouldn't surprise me.
Who the hell is Kia?!
Anyway :
Feeling at #Real is they have turned up too late to Rooney auction. They fear he may already have agreed something with #mcfc. #mufc
Anyway :
Feeling at #Real is they have turned up too late to Rooney auction. They fear he may already have agreed something with #mcfc. #mufc
No, it's just shit...
I am..
And I know for 100% fact that if I was caught shagging a hooker, then there wouldnt be any debating. I'd be picking my bags off the doorstep before I had a chance to even get my trousers back on.
Secondly, my wife has not, and never would control what I do for a living, irrespective of the circumstances. If I was in Waynes position and she made that sort of ultimatum, then she'd be told "I'll see you in court" because no way on gods earth would she ever dictate to me when I could or couldnt see my own kid.
I have the shirt their all wearing
PS: Would have been even funnier if it was SAF who was sitting there instead of Sir Bobby.
Get a world class midfielder in, get in another great winger, and we are settled. With or without Rooney.
Our defence with Rio, Vidic, Evra, Evans, Smalling, O'Shea, Brown, Fabio, Rafael, is very good and balanced. Its our midfield
Our defence with Rio, Vidic, Evra, Evans, Smalling, O'Shea, Brown, Fabio, Rafael, is very good and balanced. Its our midfield
Wanker.
I said he was a wanker for kissing the badge when he first did it.
I fecking despise players who have grown up supporting one team, then running around like they are lifelong supporters.
He is a United player. He gets paid shit loads. Thats as far as it goes.
He does not, has not and never will feel the same way about United as you, I or any other supporter does.
Well if leaving to play with better players (match ambition) is true I doubt they will be too impressed.
From what I have seen I don't think there is much love lost between Rooney, berbatov and Nani.
I can't see little Pea being his type of person either.
I agree in principal except one thing.
This upcomming situation (loosing Judas 2.0) is a make or brake situation for the owners. We need to invest in the summer, at least 3 major (starters) signings to compensate the lost of Rooney and Ronaldo. If we don't do that then I agree 100% with you.
The days of talk is over. If the Glazers are serious is time for real action.
I have the shirt their all wearing
PS: Would have been even funnier if it was SAF who was sitting there instead of Sir Bobby.
at Scholes' mumbled, barely audible "Thank you".Howard
Neville Brown (Ferdinand) Silvestre O'Shea
Ronaldo Fletcher Keane Scholes Giggs
Van Nistelrooy
Neville Brown (Ferdinand) Silvestre O'Shea
Ronaldo Fletcher Keane Scholes Giggs
Van Nistelrooy
Firstly, our defense now, pisses all over that defense. Howard was Silvestre was appalling in the centre, Ferdinand was great when he came back and O'Shea was soon to be moved from left back after prooving a liability in some games.
Secondly, our midfield was not as good as it looked on paper.
It was Ronaldo's debut season, he showed great potential in some games but was incredibly frautrating at others, Solskjaer was actually our first choice right winger.
Keane's knees were knackered and he was playing a much more limited defensive role that needed Fletcher doing the running for him between him and Scholes who was in an advanced role. Giggs was somewhat out of form and had not made the transition to all round midfielder yet.
Van Nistelrooy was pretty awesome that season.
Against:
Van Der Sar
Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Valencia Fletcher Scholes Nani
Berbatov Rooney
Our defense has been somewhat shakey this season but it's not had any sort of run yet, I have a feeling it will come good.
Valencia is out for a while, but as this is looking at the teams for the future he'll be with us for a long time. Fletcher and Scholes is perhaps our weakest point, Fletcher is going to need a solid partner to for this team to be great once again. Nani is imperious at the moment.
Berbatov has found his feet and is full of confidence and if I can't include Rooney then Chicharito will surely be a world beater in a season or two.
You really think the 03/04 best 11 is that much better? I certainly don't.
First 11's aside anyway, look at how much fodder is in that sqaud. Carroll, Lynch, Tate, Djemba, Kleberson, Richardson, Pugh, Bellion. There is no strength in depth in that squad.
All our squad is missing right now is 2 quality midfielders. One central and one that can play on each wing.
If we blew some cash on Sanchez and Sneijder/De Rossi, we'd be in a fantastic position. That'd cost us around 60 to 70m I'd say and it's an investment (maybe not this specific but an investment in the squad in general terms) the Glazer's will have to make at some point.