I don't think any fan here actually assumes that Wayne Rooney will give any thoughts to us. But we are fans and football is also about emotions, so people will discuss their emotions and thoughts. Do I think that Wayne Rooney is giving a shit about my thought? No. Do I still have to express them? Yes.
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I don't think any fan here actually assumes that Wayne Rooney will give any thoughts to us. But we are fans and football is also about emotions, so people will discuss their emotions and thoughts. Do I think that Wayne Rooney is giving a shit about my thought? No. Do I still have to express them? Yes.
Stupid man sees sense.
So many people on here insisting he's an utter cnut, we don't need him anyway... what nonsense... I'm not so naive as to not expect some bloody negotiational bullshit every now and again, and I didn't have a pop at him being a cnut... I won't have to make my second U-turn on Rooney in a week in order to get back behind him.
Valuable lesson for a lot of people on here, I hope.
If you can't see the damage this has done I really pity you. But...you gloat away and enjoy your moral victory. Oh no you have no morals do you?
Stupid desperate Yanks help him by doubling his wages.
Yep, that's how i'm feeling.
typical that one of the rare occasions where the majority on here dont want them to spend they do
Being fair to Fergie, this was most probably out of his hands anyway.
United is now a business, and for all the talk, Gill runs the club, and if he thinks United is better off keeping Rooney then Rooney is staying.
I could well imagine Fergie wanting to volley Rooney back up the M62 if he could do what he really wanted.
I said that same thing here a few minutes ago, now that WOULD be a good signal for him to send right now.
Yes but...Rooney has had other great seasons where he has shown all his qualities, he sacrificed alot himself when Ronaldo was here and had his amazing season.
He's already among the best players now, current form aside, so when he's 28 and those 'greats' you mentions are ever closer to retirement why won't Rooney still be amongst the best? Obviously he could have injuries or whatever, but I really don't follow.
Improving his hygiene? I assume you meant cleanliness in front of goal rather than his habits of deodorant? Although that could be a fantastic thread.
This sums up my sentiment exactly, as pissed as I am I doubt I will be angry forever, a couple of good performances and it will be forgotten. But one thing is for sure, at one point I thought Rooney would become a legend of the club like Giggs and Scholesy. After his antics the last few days, I highly doubt he will ever be considered in the same breath as those two
Would it be safe to say that the general united fan reaction will be...
We don't like you anymore Wayne but we'd like you even less if you'd gone to City.
From the club's point of view it was important not to lose Rooney after losing Ronaldo and Tevez. From the point of view of 'perception' if nothing else. But really Rooney won't mean nearly as much to us as fans anymore. Even if he won three CLs in a row he's tainted now as a money grabbing chav...
We don't like you anymore Wayne but we'd like you even less if you'd gone to City.
From the club's point of view it was important not to lose Rooney after losing Ronaldo and Tevez. From the point of view of 'perception' if nothing else. But really Rooney won't mean nearly as much to us as fans anymore. Even if he won three CLs in a row he's tainted now as a money grabbing chav...
So what's the consensus, still a cnut or not?
Yes....No....Yes.....No...cnut?
Yep, but he's our cnut. The difference is though, most of the cnuts we've had in the past that we said that about have got their reputation for things they did against other clubs/players, not United itself.
cnut
the support will come from the fact that he will put on a united shirt
but a cnut he is ..
his PR agents will try and spin in in all directions now .. doesnt matter what he says or does anymore
that statement he came out with was incredibly stupid .. what an arsehole
but a cnut he is ..
his PR agents will try and spin in in all directions now .. doesnt matter what he says or does anymore
that statement he came out with was incredibly stupid .. what an arsehole
Ok, is there a source for the 180k a week claim? Just asking as it seems like speculation
Still very much a massive cnut but he'll be forgiven and all will be forgotten about this in a few years, just like Rio's antics have been. I remember people jumping down my neck for daring to suggest that Rio was a mercenary last year because I remembered what he had done with Kenyon and Co at Chelsea.
Likewise, I dont necessarily agree with you often but this is spot on.
cnut - if what he said about his teammates was from his mouth no new deal will change that , maybe all this does is get the club more money when they ship him out. how can he go into the changing room now?
I wonder if the feelings on here are indicative of the wider United support.
Or will the same fickle feckers who boo'd Tevez's substitution against Arsenal the other year spend 90 minutes singing 'the white Pele' on Sunday?
Or will the same fickle feckers who boo'd Tevez's substitution against Arsenal the other year spend 90 minutes singing 'the white Pele' on Sunday?
Sadly this is true. Mind you truth be told Rio has some form in this area too. Footballers are getting less and less likable.
As one of Manchester's favorite sons put it....money changes everything.
I find it hard to get behind Rooney now. I think I shouldn't feel so abused though - that's modern football. But Rooney earns more in a year than I will earn in my life - it's so far detached from reality it's hard to maintain the love for the game any longer. Football was about the concept of club, of fans, but it's now about celebrity and television. It's not much different from being a pop star really. Sell records, sell shirts, sell image rights, sell your soul..........Sell, sell, sell. Money, money, money. Some footballers may have gone about negotiating a rise in a more discreet, more respectful way I suppose, but as I said before, I think generally footballers at the very top only care about themselves, their cars, their mansions, their women, their teammates. Rooney is really just another prime example of many.
I'm with lailani, fred and mockney on this as well.
I think this too. Though there will be a contingent of fans who will never forgive him and I couldn't argue against it either to be honest.
To be honest, after the way he played it, I would really rather he was sold. I think they gave in to preserve his sell on value.
If he scores the winner in the following.....
The two City games
FA Cup Final
Champions League Final
Stamford Bridge
Anfield
I may forgive him
The two City games
FA Cup Final
Champions League Final
Stamford Bridge
Anfield
I may forgive him
Nice to see some light-hearted humour in this thread.
I'd go so far to say that would be the ONLY signal to rekindle the old relationship with the fans. It would suggest that he actually made a mistake and that the situation simply got out of hand.
But I doubt it. It has worked out very nicely for him and his new statement is no apology whatsoever. This is a very sad day for football because it sends out a horrible message: Throw tantrums, hold your club to ransom and you'll get a nice pay rise.
If he continues to play the way he has been these last few months I can see the fans losing patience.
I'm with Lailani, fred, mockney and dyslexic united
Why do I have an image of Malcolm Glazer sat at home crying his eyes out screaming
"THAT BASTARD JUST COST ME £50 MILLION"
Ah well.. every cloud has a silver lining.
"THAT BASTARD JUST COST ME £50 MILLION"
Ah well.. every cloud has a silver lining.
That MUTV interviewer isn't really asking the hard to the bone questions is he? Fecking hell.
Untied. That's what makes it so LOL.
I hope he is sold in the summer at a higher fee than we might otherwise have got. That was an absolute disgrace and him being rewarded for it is just unbelievable. I'd rather Hernandez was in the team than Rooney.
Let's start forgetting. Could some mod please erase all bullshit about WAYNE ROONEY on this site???
Planned all along - Fergie killed two birds with one stone here: No one is talking about Rooney's private life any more = he can concentrate on the game again. And secondly, this is a statement about the affairs at United. "Mr. United" "I'm going to be here for the rest of my career like Giggs" goes from saying "No ambition or money at the club" (a common thought amongst fans) to "the gaffer and management has shown me why this club will continue to do greater things" = maybe we aren't in as bad of shape as the media makes out. Master stroke of PR greatness.