POLL: your thoughts on the Rooney contract extension

Your thoughts on the Rooney contract extention

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For the moment, without knowing much detail (as we really don't) I am fairly happy.

Rooney leaving would have been a nightmare to the club, the squad and the manager.

Depending on how things unfold, I may well change my opinion.
 
Jiggs'Hamstring said:
It's a hell of a lot more complicated than those 3. I'm still feeling angry and confused, but I kind of wanna shout "we've got Wayne Rooney"
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And City don't.

The thought of Tevez and Rooney leading a City title charge and playing against us at OT was giving me nightmares.
 
Karel_Poborsky said:
Hearing a few rumours / suggestions that the new contract is nothing more than a gentlemen's agreement between Rooney and Man Utd. Rooney obviously was given money for signing it and given assurances that he will be sold either in January or in the Summer.
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Where are you hearing that?
 
Brwned said:
It's ironic how much you're currently reflecting the person you're so viciously bashing, in that you evidently have a pretty big ego - in thinking you're so much better than the rest - and you don't really give a shit what anyone else thinks - as you've made abundantly clear by throwing insults around at everyone who cares to disagree - but hey ho, don't let that get in the way of your tedious, inane ranting.

Rooney doesn't give a shit if we love him. You don't really matter in his life. At all. Rooney 'held the club to ransom' with absolutely no appreciation for how it affected us, the fans, as you can see. It caused everyone in the country to turn on him, and chances are he's at home laughing because he's got a massive paycheck. Everyone did hate him, and I'd imagine that was a small price to take for getting what he wanted. Us hating him even more wouldn't have changed that, unless you want us to send a few death threats out there? You know, to show how much we care, the real fans.

I'll be with this club 'til the day I die, you'll be jumping ship to a new club in a few years because 'Manchester United has abandoned it's morals' or you'll quite football altogether because 'football's lost what made it so special'...because you clearly can't handle the ups and downs of it very well, mate.

FWIW, that last line's a load of bollocks, I don't have a clue what you'll be doing and I'm not someone who thinks so much of himself that he can tell others about the right way to support your club, it's just to show you how ridiculous you're coming across. You're like a heartbroken teenager. Do you really get your jollies off coming on an internet forum and telling everyone else how much worse a supporter they are? I'd really hope it's just that time of the month, and this isn't a true reflection of yourself.
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Not really sure how you've felt compelled to judge me on the basis of highlighting what in my opinion is hypocrisy of the highest order.

As for questioning my loyalty towards the club on what basis I'm not sure...pfft, water off a duck's back, mate. The sheer nonsensical nature of you accusations and rant makes that attitude a lot easier to posses on this occasion.

Now, to the issue that seems to have wound you up into a frenzy. I consider it hypocrisy of the highest order when pretty much every poster on here had a view of Rooney's recent actions, the majority of which were not pleasant and not kind, whereas now a vast amount of the forum is thrilled with this latest development and more bizarrely defending Wayne's actions. Either these posters have had a personality transplant or quite simply posses the memory of a goldfish or are lacking in conviction in their own opinion. Don't believe me? Ask yourself if they would still be so mellow in their attitude towards Wayne if he reverted to being a dick and changed his mind tomorrow.

I also find it hypocritical to slag off one person(s) for doing something when it suits you, but when the shoe is on the other foot, you do the exact same thing yourselves(this relates to the Chelsea bashing for supporting Terry and now the same reaction from these people for Rooney). If you can't accept that logic, then fine, just don't get your knickers in such a twist and start ranting and raving like the load of nonsense bile you just unloaded.

As for pretty big ego's...no, not really. I have an opinion that I'm not afraid to share, no matter who it upsets if that's what you mean, but in regards to actual ego and thinking my opinion carries more weight than others? No, I'll leave that to some of the other people on here, thanks.
 
WireRed said:
Not really sure how you've felt compelled to judge me on the basis of highlighting what in my opinion is hypocrisy of the highest order.

As for questioning my loyalty towards the club on what basis I'm not sure...pfft, water off a duck's back, mate. The sheer nonsensical nature of you accusations and rant makes that attitude a lot easier to posses on this occasion.

Now, to the issue that seems to have wound you up into a frenzy. I consider it hypocrisy of the highest order when pretty much every poster on here had a view of Rooney's recent actions, the majority of which were not pleasant and not kind, whereas now a vast amount of the forum is thrilled with this latest development and more bizarrely defending Wayne's actions. Either these posters have had a personality transplant or quite simply posses the memory of a goldfish or are lacking in conviction in their own opinion. Don't believe me? Ask yourself if they would still be so mellow in their attitude towards Wayne if he reverted to being a dick and changed his mind tomorrow.

I also find it hypocritical to slag off one person(s) for doing something when it suit you, but when the shoe is on the other foot, you do the exact same thing yourselves(this relates to the Chelsea bashing for supporting Terry and now the same reaction from these people for Rooney). If you can't accept that logic, then fine, just don't get your knickers in such a twist and start ranting and raving like the load of nonsense bile you just unloaded.

As for pretty big ego's...no, not really. I have an opinion that I'm not afraid to share, no matter who it upsets if that's what you mean, but in regards to actual ego and thinking my opinion carries more weight than others? No, I'll leave that to some of the other people on here, thanks.
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May I just add, I take my apology back, I was right.
 
Karel_Poborsky said:
Hearing a few rumours / suggestions that the new contract is nothing more than a gentlemen's agreement between Rooney and Man Utd. Rooney obviously was given money for signing it and given assurances that he will be sold either in January or in the Summer.
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Stopped reading at rumour / suggestions.

United and Rooney announced a 5 year contract extension today, incase you missed it.
 
WireRed said:
:lol: Only just, albeit after it being proved he initially wanted out ;)
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Oh I wasn't completely right and the truth lay somewhere between our opinions, but never let it be said I'm not an arsehole who doesn't revel in his little glories.
 
Happy.

Football contract talks for top football players are all about brinksmanship.
 
Well what do you know, Pogue is back toeing the clubs official line. Allforone might have said he'd like more signings, but what on earth has that got to do with Waynes situation... Wayne clearly couldn't give a toss about the clubs ambition (wasn't a valid reason), he just wanted more monies... hardly comparable to a fan who wants his team to succeed.

The irony is, by Rooney being more selfish and asking for astronomical wages.. the club has less money in the bank to shell out for stellar talents on good wages. By serving himself, he weakens the future of the team, but then its all good to gloss over all that and attack so called transfer muppets.
 
Raees said:
Well what do you know, Pogue is back toeing the clubs official line. Allforone might have said he'd like more signings, but what on earth has that got to do with Waynes situation... Wayne clearly couldn't give a toss about the clubs ambition (wasn't a valid reason), he just wanted more monies... hardly comparable to a fan who wants his team to succeed.

The irony is, by Rooney being more selfish and asking for astronomical wages.. the club has less money in the bank to shell out for stellar talents on good wages. By serving himself, he weakens the future of the team, but then its all good to gloss over all that and attack so called transfer muppets.
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I had a conversation with someone by PM 3 days ago because I was asked what I thought about the situation. As the threads were going mental at the time, there was no point in trying to discuss it in my mind. However, this was my reply.

Well, firstly, I accept the situation in modern football where clubs have certain power over players and players have certain power over clubs. Beckham for example is on record saying that he never wanted to leave, but the club sold him as it was seen to be in the interests of the club to do so. There are many examples of where players have done the opposite, Ronaldo for one.

At the end of the day IMO, these people are employees, and playing football is their job, so in the modern age, with so much money sloshing around, nobody should expect loyalty from a player, and a player should not expect loyalty from the club, and supporters should accept that. Where I can understand fan bitterness and upset is where a player runs down his contract and either devalue himself or even go for free - read Sol Campbell and Micheal Owen. If a fan gives loyalty to a player, then the player can at least provide loyalty to them in ensuring that his transfer fee will be as high as possible.

So, in my view, he's only a player, it doesn't upset me one jot if he wants to leave, that's his prerogative to do with his life what he sees fit, however, I would like him to sign a new contract and then allow the club to sell him with the strongest hand possible. In the mean time, I expect him to continue to give his all for the club on the pitch to give the fans back what they have given to him.

Why does he want to do this? Your guess is as good as mine - money, a change, a new challenge, a bust up with someone, drama queen like dummy chucking, blind stubbornness, frustration with where he sees the club is going, his wife wanting whatever. It could be anything, but it will all come out in the wash eventually.
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There are too many drama queens on this forum, and too many people that don't have their heads anywhere closely linked to reality. This football forum is a joke!
 
WeasteDevil said:
I had a conversation with someone by PM 3 days ago because I was asked what I thought about the situation. As the threads were going mental at the time, there was no point in trying to discuss it in my mind. However, this was my reply.



There are too many drama queens on this forum, and too many people that don't have their heads anywhere closely linked to reality. This football forum is a joke!
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I agree with what you've said bar the last bit, as a player he's entitled to want more money or what not (act in his own interests). What I don't agree with is the bullshit he's spouted about ambition (especially coming from him), when its an illogical statement. Asking for more wages, is more harmful to the teams chances of winning trophies i.e. signing new players.. so he should just come out and say so instead of attempting to drag the teams reputation through the mud...my own take on it.

What also annoys me is people that worship players to the nth degree. Players like Keano and Rio, they're mercenaries.. not fans of the club, just accept them as good players who've played for your club, but don't lick their arse come rain or shine and portray yourself as a helpless idolising little twat.
 
WireRed said:
As for pretty big ego's...no, not really. I have an opinion that I'm not afraid to share, no matter who it upsets if that's what you mean, but in regards to actual ego and thinking my opinion carries more weight than others? No, I'll leave that to some of the other people on here, thanks.
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No?

Absolute morally bankrupt spastics, as far as I'm concerned. And a sad reflection of the modern day football supporter. Glory>morals, loyalty, priciples etc, an absolute joke IMO.

Sounds like you're incredibly sure of your opinion there wouldn't you say? It's an incredibly condescending and unneccessarily sweeping statement that could only really be said by someone who is sure he's right, otherwise you'd have held back a bit. And yes, the fact that you don't care who you upset - the selfishness - combined with the aforementioned ego...it makes it incredibly ironic how happy you are to have a go at Rooney for well...much of the same, really.

Not saying you're wrong about Rooney or anything, just maybe have a look in the mirror first eh? You've lost the plot ever since this Rooney saga, you were perfectly reasonable before.

As for the whole Terry saga, or the Rooney saga...neither are relevant to me. See, I'm not one to get caught up in a media storm unlike some people...I don't give a shit what John Terry does in his private life, I couldn't give a feck what Rooney does in his either. I didn't comment on the Terry thing at all (although did have a look in to have a laugh at the embarrassing overreactions from time to time) and the only thing I said in that big Rooney thread was:

Brwned said:
This is surreal.
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I'd imagine you had quite a few hysterical ones in there.

Oh, and anyone who takes the time to post on an internet forum only does it because he wants his opinion heard because it somehow adds value to it, and thus inevitably does care what others think...but we'll leave that bit out for now eh? :angel:
 
Meh.

At least Fergie has convinced Rooney to respect the club. Signing a contract now would keep the price tag on him intact.

I don't think he'll still be here come next August.
 
Have any of you who hate him done anything stupid in your life before? Or maybe you are all angels and never do mistakes?

Some of you in this thread are weird..



A of course.
 
@Brwned...I think I'm correct, absolutely I do, I don't think you'll find anyone on this forum who doesn't believe in their own views, that being said, there is a marked difference between that and actually believing your own opinion is above everyone else's. I can state for sure that I don't laugh other people's views off, nor do I stubbornly refuse to listen to what other people have to say(Pogue, this is you in a nutshell), nor do I treat my own opinion as gospel and expect other people to lap up everything I state.

The statement you quoted from me is merely my honest opinion, I expect some people to resent it, some to disagree with it, and some to agree wholeheartedly. That's the point of this place, we all have different views and the game would be boring if we all nodded in agreement at each other's views.

I don't really follow how I've "lost the plot" since all the Rooney nonsense. A lot of people called bullshit on the initial reports he'd refused to sign and wanted away, I was adament that the source was too good and too widespread for it to be mere speculation, I was right. Since then I've been pretty much as condemning of his actions as the majority on here, the difference being I haven't just changed my opinion the instant his inked dried on the contract. It's left a bitter taste in the mouth, one that will take a long time or even never truly wash away.

I don't apologise for feeling that way, I know I'm in a minority as this poll suggests but it's the way I feel. I also don't apologise for questioning how some people have turned off the taps of hatred/dissapointment so quickly and are now back to being pro-Rooney and defending his behaviour. It's the very definition of contradictory, whether you like it or not.
 
He can feck off the scouse bastard.

We'll do a Ronaldo on him too anyway. He'll feck off in the summer. Hopefully.
 
I really don't get all this "we'll sell him for more in the summer business" i actually think it's a load of bo!!ocks.

What at all would Wayne Rooney or more importantly his nobend agent gain from doing that? If this was just to get more money then any club buying him will simply not be as inclined to pay £200k plus a week in wages because they've had to pay possibly £20m more to sign him. It just wouldn't make any sense for Rooney to do that, if it was all about the money then he'd have told the club he was sticking to his guns and gone off to find another club who'd have paid him an absolute wedge mainly helped by saving tens of millions on a transfer fee.

It's just not going to happen, and i'm willing to put good money on Wayne Rooney still being a manchester United player come September next year.
 
jgraham said:
I really don't get all this "we'll sell him for more in the summer business" i actually think it's a load of bo!!ocks.

What at all would Wayne Rooney or more importantly his nobend agent gain from doing that? If this was just to get more money then any club buying him will simply not be as inclined to pay £200k plus a week in wages because they've had to pay possibly £20m more to sign him. It just wouldn't make any sense for Rooney to do that, if it was all about the money then he'd have told the club he was sticking to his guns and gone off to find another club who'd have paid him an absolute wedge mainly helped by saving tens of millions on a transfer fee.

It's just not going to happen, and i'm willing to put good money on Wayne Rooney still being a manchester United player come September next year.
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He probably will be here next season, but should he decide to start fannying around again in the future, we'll be in a much more secure position in regards to setting a fee, less pressure to sell and that sort of thing.

I think the disrepect and "I'm bigger than the club" mentality he's shown is such that the damage has been done and a sale can't be ruled out in the future if Fergie can't rebuild the reletionship or feels he's got too big for his boots. The mistrust will take a long time to subside IMO.
 
Some surprising names of people who voted 'Boooo'. Seriously, what the feck? Mongoloids.

And some unsurprising names too of course.
 
WireRed said:
He probably will be here next season, but should he decide to start fannying around again in the future, we'll be in a much more secure position in regards to setting a fee, less pressure to sell and that sort of thing.

I think the disrepect and "I'm bigger than the club" mentality he's shown is such that the damage has been done and a sale can't be ruled out in the future if Fergie can't rebuild the reletionship or feels he's got too big for his boots. The mistrust will take a long time to subside IMO.
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I genuinely think that if SAF bought into the "i'm bigger than the club" thing and actually believed it to be true then we wouldn't be where we are today with this.

It's all opinions though isn't it
 
jgraham said:
I genuinely think that if SAF bought into the "i'm bigger than the club" thing and actually believed it to be true then we wouldn't be where we are today with this.

It's all opinions though isn't it
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I think it was important to end all the hoo-ha once and for all, it was also crucial to strengthen our hand knowing the lad isn't the sure fire "for lifer" we all assumed and hoped he was.

I might be cynical or overly suspicious but not for one minute do I believe that Rooney will fulfill the length of that contract and we all live happily ever after.

The example I'll site is Beckham, he signed an extension in 2002 and a year later was gone and the contract meant nothing except power to United in the transfer negotiations. I think the same cracks between club and player are there after the goings-on of this week, and I think Rooney leaving in 1-2-or 3 years is a distinct possibility. Could be wrong though.
 
WireRed said:
I think it was important to end all the hoo-ha once and for all, it was also crucial to strengthen our hand knowing the lad isn't the sure fire "for lifer" we all assumed and hoped he was.

I might be cynical or overly suspicious but not for one minute do I believe that Rooney will fulfill the length of that contract and we all live happily ever after.

The example I'll site is Beckham, he signed an extension in 2002 and a year later was gone and the contract meant nothing except power to United in the transfer negotiations. I think the same cracks between club and player are there after the goings-on of this week, and I think Rooney leaving in 1-2-or 3 years is a distinct possibility. Could be wrong though.
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Rooney is completely a different animal from Beckham. Rooney doesn't live the Holywood lifestyle that Beckham does. Rooney's relationship with Fergie will be fine. IF Rooney does leave it will be because of us not being able to compete for the biggest prizes.
 
Rams said:
Rooney is completely a different animal from Beckham. Rooney doesn't live the Holywood lifestyle that Beckham does. Rooney's relationship with Fergie will be fine. IF Rooney does leave it will be because of us not being able to compete for the biggest prizes.
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I know, but I'd say the situation on the face of it, seems worse, worse in the sense that Rooney has held the club to ransom and more disgustingly come out and publicly questioned the club and indeed by that token, Fergie. This has probably brought about more unwanted attention than Beckham's lifestyle ever did.

I could be a million miles off the pace, and SAF and Wayne are fine already and all is hunky dory but I think that it's unlikely that's the case or that it will be the case any time soon.
 
WireRed said:
I know, but I'd say the situation on the face of it, seems worse, worse in the sense that Rooney has held the club to ransom and more disgustingly come out and publicly questioned the club and indeed by that token, Fergie. This has probably brought about more unwanted attention than Beckham's lifestyle ever did.

I could be a million miles off the pace, and SAF and Wayne are fine already and all is hunky dory but I think that it's unlikely that's the case or that it will be the case any time soon.
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Rooney and Fergie are both working class i.e. common as muck northern people, they have similar backgrounds. 2 common street fighters. You can sort of see that they respect each other. With Becks and Fergie... jesus..
 
Rams said:
Rooney and Fergie are both working class i.e. common as muck northern people, they have similar backgrounds. 2 common street fighters. You can sort of see that they respect each other. With Becks and Fergie... jesus..
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I don't think it matter's too much what their background is...by questioning the club, Rooney questioned SAF. I agree that Becks and Fergie had a personality as well as professional clash, but it makes no difference if your a gay icon, who loves his Armani, from London, or a working-class Northerner who's never been seen outside a chavvy tracksuit, the fact of the matter is Rooney's actions this week created a lot more of a shit-storm by itself than Beckham ever did and I'd also wager, Rooney's words cut deeper into Fergie's psyche than anything Beckham ever did either.
 
WireRed said:
I don't think it matter's too much what their background is...by questioning the club, Rooney questioned SAF. I agree that Becks and Fergie had a personality as well as professional clash, but it makes no difference if your a gay icon, who loves his Armani, from London, or a working-class Northerner who's never been seen outside a chavvy tracksuit, the fact of the matter is Rooney's actions this week created a lot more of a shit-storm by itself than Beckham ever did and I'd also wager, Rooney's words cut deeper into Fergie's psyche than anything Beckham ever did either.
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I think Rooney and Fergie get along fine. Rooney has apologised to Fergie and Fergie respects that. I think Fergie won't take it personaly.
 
Im glad he is staying but I really hope the Old Trafford crowd let him know clearly that he needs to prove himself to us all once again and its not going to take just a goal.
 
Complete balls up. Won't boo, but would rather not see him in a United shirt again.

Hope he is off for big bucks in January TBH, although that wouldn't make any sense.
 
Some oddballs have opted for boooing him

Strange

Oh and why on earth do people keeping blabbering on about selling him now he has signed a new contract.

Are you simple?
 
TheReligion said:
Some oddballs have opted for boooing him

Strange

Oh and why on earth do people keeping blabbering on about selling him now he has signed a new contract.

Are you simple?
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On Sunday Rooney's agent briefed the press that Rooney would not be signing a new deal. On friday he signed a new deal. On wed Sir Alex said "we will put this to bed tomorrow". By thurs evening the Mirror had the story that Rooney was signing a new deal (interesting timing don't you think?). Sir Alex stated that he wouldn't sell Real Madrid a virus yet Ronaldo still departed. There may yet be more twists to this tale.
 
kundalini said:
On Sunday Rooney's agent briefed the press that Rooney would not be signing a new deal. On friday he signed a new deal. On wed Sir Alex said "we will put this to bed tomorrow". By thurs evening the Mirror had the story that Rooney was signing a new deal (interesting timing don't you think?). Sir Alex stated that he wouldn't sell Real Madrid a virus yet Ronaldo still departed. There may yet be more twists to this tale.
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He signed a contact today which lasts 5 years

Did you miss that?
 
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