Manchester United vs. Wigan Athletic, 20/11/10

This for me except I think I'd play Hernandez because I want to see him and Rooney play together.

I can understand that given that Macheda change the game against Villa and also scored two for the Italian U21's I think confidence will be high for him.
 
We rushed Rooney back from injury last time and he was a shadow of himself. Liverpool continually do that with Torres and Arsenal are doing the same with fabregas.

I hope Rooney plays nothing other than a brief 10 minute spell against Wigan.

Berba and Hernandez to start as they had a rest this week so should be full of energy. Nani should be rested as well.
 
I can understand that given that Macheda change the game against Villa and also scored two for the Italian U21's I think confidence will be high for him.

I certainly wouldn't object to Macheda starting, I'd be perfectly happy with either of them, I'm just quite keen to see Rooney and Hernandez working together.
 
This is a game where Berbatov SHOULD start. It is an easy game and this is a sort of game where Berba can score pretty easily and get his confidence back up.

I think it's about time we stop mothering Berbatov, why is his confidence down?? he scored a hattrick against Liverpool and should have been on a high instead has played poorly in every game since. What do we have to do to get him playing well consistantly have all the players give him a cuddle every day in training and tell him how they all know how great he is. I have defended him but he has had 2 & half years nearly if he wants to play he has got to start earning the right.
 
I think it's about time we stop mothering Berbatov, why is his confidence down?? he scored a hattrick against Liverpool and should have been on a high instead has played poorly in every game since. What do we have to do to get him playing well consistantly have all the players give him a cuddle every day in training and tell him how they all know how great he is. I have defended him but he has had 2 & half years nearly if he wants to play he has got to start earning the right.

Except he hasn't been playing poorly every game. Him not scoring doesn't imply that he was poor. In fact he has been quite good in many of the games he hasn't scored in despite not getting his name on the scoresheet.
 
Except he hasn't been playing poorly every game. Him not scoring doesn't imply that he was poor. In fact he has been quite good in many of the games he hasn't scored in despite not getting his name on the scoresheet.

he has been pretty poor to fair, he did play well at the start of the season but he is drifting further and further back into old ways.
 
he has been pretty poor to fair, he did play well at the start of the season but he is drifting further and further back into old ways.

The past game or two he has been kind of poor but the ones before that where he didn't score, he was pretty involved.
 
The past game or two he has been kind of poor but the ones before that where he didn't score, he was pretty involved.

Eh? Berbatov's bad run is much more than just 2 games. He's been shit since the Stoke game and there have been 6 or 7 games since then.
 
I can see Rooney being 'eased' back into this one, scoring a muted goal. Feels like it never happened. A tough 2-0, dare I even contemplate thinking about a draw. Should be positive. A good win and possibly draw a few more points from Chelsea.
 
Rooney maybe on the bench and Rafael and Giggs are doubts according to Fergie.
 
How can a dead leg leave Rafael still a doubt?

There are complications with any injury. Think Neville's still injured, and since O'Shea's played 90 minutes midweek, that probably indicates Brown at rightback. Any news on Rio?
 
BenHibbs

Sir Alex says United also assessing Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling (both got groins strains) ahead of Wigan's OT visit #mufc


ffs
 
BenHibbs

Sir Alex says United also assessing Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling (both got groins strains) ahead of Wigan's OT visit #mufc


ffs

Four from Brown, Evans, Vidic, O'Shea and Evra should be able to cope with Wigan, shouldn't it?

Caldwell, Boyce, McCarthy, Cleverley (of course) all out for Wigan. Not too sure about Wigan's South Americans and jetlag as yet.
 
Kiko will be riding high after that goal against Villa. Might be worth building his confidence a bit.

If we don't stuff these cnuts I might implode.

They are fecking wank.
 
Kiko will be riding high after that goal against Villa. Might be worth building his confidence a bit.

If we don't stuff these cnuts I might implode.

They are fecking wank.

Macheda does his best work from the bench, has he even scored a senior goal for United starting a game?
 
Seeing as Berba and Hernandez never played any interntiaonl games. Those two i expect will start with Rooney on bench.
 
Talk that Nani may also be rested,

I'll go for:

Van der Sar
O'Shea
Brown
Vidic
Evra
Fletcher
Carrick
Scholes
Park
Berbatov
Hernandez

Subs:
Kuszczak (please)
J. Evans
Fabio
Gibson
Obertan
Rooney
Macheda
 
Rooney ready to return?

Wayne Rooney may make the bench for United on Saturday against Wigan Athletic, despite not having done any football training this week.

Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed this in an interview with MUTV on Friday morning. It follows the 25-year-old forward's return last weekend from Nike World Headquarters in Portland, Oregon, where he'd been focusing on intensive conditioning work.

Rooney arrived back in Manchester after United’s 2-2 draw with Aston Villa and, whilst again focusing on fitness this week, he could play some part against the Latics. Sir Alex told MUTV: "Wayne's done a week of intense work, so he’s not done a lot of football work. We need to assess that a little more closely. He could make the bench, but I don’t think he’ll start.

“[We sent him to America] to isolate him in an intensive situation so the concentration was purely on the training. He went to the Nike World Headquarters and it’s a good set-up. I’ve taken the team there myself. So it was a good platform for him to get into intense training.”

Sir Alex also said that United’s medical team would need to assess the fitness of defenders Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling, who both picked up groin injuries whilst away with England. “We don’t have any serious injuries or anything like that,” said the boss. “We have to consider Rio, he came off for England with a groin strain, and Chris Smalling picked up a groin strain in training.”

The Reds will make a late decision on the readiness of winger Nani, who only returned to Carrington today (Friday) after his midweek international exploits with Portugal. However, the winger, who turned 24 this week, should be fit to play. However, the same cannot be said for Rafael and Ryan Giggs. Rafael has a dead leg and might not be ready to play against Wigan, while Giggs will not be rushed back as he has already once aggravated a hamstring strain.
 
I don't understand the mentality of resting Nani, surely SAF must realise he'll be fecking my FF team right up?
 
Nani's been playing lots of games, definitely needs a breather now and we have got Arsenal and Chelsea soon.

I'm hugely awaiting Rooney's reception tomorrow when he walks out at OT. Gonna be fun other than the game ending in a routine 4-0 probably (i've got a fiver on that)
 
Cleverly:

Tom Cleverley admits his first forays with Manchester United first team during their preseason tour of America in the summer was a bit of a culture shock.

The England Under-21 star is currently on loan at Wigan Athletic, but during the summer and on the back of a hugely impressive spell in the Championship with Leicester City and more prominently Watford, the 20-year-old caught the eye for the Red Devils in the US with a superb goal against the MLS All-Stars.Cleverly suggests the attention Manchester United received overseas was an eye opener as was playing in front of 70,000 fans, but most pertinently the midfielder recalls the remarkable technical ability of some his vaunted Old Trafford colleagues, notably Paul Scholes and Dimitar Berbatov.

The attacking told the National: "I saw the attention United get worldwide and thought, 'Wow!' But I still felt like a kid in a team of men.

He continued: “We played in front of 70,000 in places like Houston and it went well for me,

"I was playing alongside Scholes, who has brilliant technique and never gives the ball away. The passing is the difference at United.

“There are so few mistakes and the control of players like Dimitar Berbatov in small spaces is unmatched.”
 
feck sakes still got injuries woes, we can never get cleared of it :(
 
I hope we give Kiko a start up with Berbatov. A goal against Villa and then 2 in midweek for Italy U21's will surely mean he's buzzing.
 
Did Park have an international game?
 
van der Sar
Brown Vidic Evans Evra
Nani Carrick Scholes Park
Hernandez Berbatov
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Amos; O'Shea, Smalling; Fletcher, Obertan; Macheda, Rooney​

Thinking something more like that now. Vidic, Nani, and maybe Evans / Park played international games, the rest should be fresh. O'Shea, Smalling, and Fletcher on the bench to take a break, but they would probably come back in against Rangers anyway. Rooney will get on at some point hopefully, Bébé could also make the bench.
 
:( I don't want Wes to play. He was rubbish against Villa...I'd rather O'Shea play.

I hope Obertan gets a start. He deserves one for his good performance against Villa.
 
:( I don't want Wes to play. He was rubbish against Villa...I'd rather O'Shea play.

I hope Obertan gets a start. He deserves one for his good performance against Villa.

Wes was shit against Villa to be fair. I feel he needs games and hopefully he'll get them because we all know how good he can be at fullback when given a run in the side.