World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids

What has USA, Australia, Japan or Korea done to feck up their election campaigns? Except not bribing the votes, obviously.
Bribing my foot. They had all hosted the tournament and they couldn't rely one each other for votes. Meanwhile Qatar hadn't hosted it before and could rely on trying to win votes from South America, Africa and Europe. When we add to that the fact USA is USA. Their chances of wining ahead of Qatar were far from great.
 
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The only football fans moaning about going to Russia & Qatar are you lot. You think the football fans in the Middle East don't count as much as you. Is that it?

I'm not surprise you believe in that bullshit of ''merit only'' picking for hosting. If things were done your way a world cup would never have come to Africa. Or USA even.
Sure I believe they should be picked on merit.....so do FIFA or they wouldn't have selected any criteria. Only trouble with FIFA is that weren't controlled enough to prevent personal prejudice and corruption from getting in the way of objectivity.
 
Sure I believe they should be picked on merit.....so do FIFA or they wouldn't have selected any criteria. Only trouble with FIFA is that weren't controlled enough to prevent personal prejudice and corruption from getting in the way of objectivity.
If they did as you say then there wouldn't be any point in voting. Fifa would just pick and chose who they wanted to host tournaments & there'd be nothing remotely fair about that. Democracy has it's price too. It ain't fun to be on the receiving end of it.
 
Bribing my foot. They had all hosted the tournament and they couldn't rely one each other for votes. Meanwhile Qatar hadn't hosted it before and could rely on trying to win votes from South America, Africa and Europe. When we add to that the fact USA is USA. Their chances of wining ahead of Qatar were far from great.

When was the Australian World Cup? We're talking about football, not rugby you know.
 
That vast majorty of the bemused and angry headlines are from your press. But I'm sure you haven't noticed.

Unlike you I read newspapers from around the world, why don't you have a read of what the global media has been saying and not use a blog that everyday clogs up my email account with ten players Chelsea are going to sign.
 
Erm what..you feck up your own election campaign and now it's the fault of the process that you don't get elected?

The voting system is very clearly flawed and wide open to corruption.

When Fifa have a problem with the freedom of speech, therein lies another major issue.

The issue here is not the British media.
 
Nothing wrong with Australia's location for the Olympics...it's not moved since then either.

To be fair, timezone is a bit of an issue, but if Fifa cared about timezone so much, surely they might as well just rotate amongst Germany, Italy, Spain, France & England. Nothing will ever go wrong.
 
If they did as you say then there wouldn't be any point in voting. Fifa would just pick and chose who they wanted to host tournaments & there'd be nothing remotely fair about that. Democracy has it's price too. It ain't fun to be on the receiving end of it.
What are you saying now? You're actually agreeing with me.

Isn't that exactly what FIFA have just done....picking and choosing who they want.....and there's nothing remotely fair about it, you're right. That's what I've been saying all along.
 
The 2022 race in comparison was just about sentiment. That is Qatar was always going to win.

Why the hell would Qatar win a vote based on sentiment, by 22 people who are supposed to be thinking about what's right for football, and football teams and football fans? I could understand if the US would fall behind, as would Korea and Japan, but surely Australia would win more than ONE vote?

Seems like the English bid team were promised votes on the day leading to the actual voting. So you can't really the claim people broke promises because of the media revelations. They made promises after those as well. They are just third rate politicians.
 
I don't agree at all. I have little doubt prior to their stupid press opening their months, England were going to take Russia to the wire. And beat them there. The England bid team are not lying when they tell everyone they were promised votes yet almost at the last minute people turned backs on them. The 2022 race in comparison was just about sentiment. That is Qatar was always going to win.

I assume you just mixed up the word 'sentiment' with 'money'. :D
 
What happened to the Spanish bid then? Their's was very good and would have been a worthy winner and their press said nada.

The Spanish bid was a no hoper for a long time, it was not a good bid at all and had so much going against it - only due to being better on the political side (their tie up with Qatar) did they even get any support.
FIFA always made it clear that they didnt really favour joint bids - in fact I never understood why it was a joint bid when they could easily have done it on their owen.
They also hosted relatively recently and economic issues in Sportugal didnt help either.
But the main issue was the same as the English bid in the end - no legacy.
 
SSN are now saying that in the first round Platini voted for Holland. In the 2nd round he voted for Russia despite Holland still being in the running.

Ruddy twit can even make his mind up who he wants. That or he recieved a fat envelope in the middle of the voting process.

That is what scares me, once Blatter stepped down Platini is tipped to be his successor.
 
SSN are now saying that in the first round Platini voted for Holland. In the 2nd round he voted for Russia despite Holland still being in the running.

Ruddy twit can even make his mind up who he wants. That or he recieved a fat envelope in the middle of the voting process.

That was done for the specific purpose of knocking England out in Round 1 - it is very obvious when you think about it.
 
SSN are now saying that in the first round Platini voted for Holland. In the 2nd round he voted for Russia despite Holland still being in the running.

Or the idea was to take England out as soon as possible. Once that happened, he (and one more) could vote for Russia.
 
So why the need to actually ban two of the voting members on the eve of the decision then?
What. You'd have preferred them to wait?

What did the English media do wrong? Expose corruption?
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Are you kidding me Brad? Seriously:lol: You DO NOT understand that you press went out of its way to reduce those who were likely to vote for the England word cup bid? For no other reason other than the selfish one of boosting ratings and newspaper sales?

It has EVERYTHING to do with the process being bent to feck. That's not to say England would win it if it wasn't, and lets be fair revelations last year showed we were perfectly happy to play a form of the game ourselves, but to deny that corruption infests this whole process is so... so... well, typically you Rubberman
Then only thing bent is that some of you actually believe you dense prss were doing something noble. When they fecked you over good and proper. But trust you to blame it all on Fifa and the process rather than yourselves. You lot are as bad as politicians who lose elections down here.
 
Or the idea was to take England out as soon as possible. Once that happened, he (and one more) could vote for Russia.
That is why it was stupid for the British press to go after allies of their nation's bid. With obvious enemies like Platini in the mix. Minus the press intervention England would have cleared the first round piss easily.
 
Then only thing bent is that some of you actually believe you dense prss were doing something noble.

Let me get this straight:

The British press outs corrupt officials.

Fifa bans them.

Fifa officials then blame the press for the failure of England's bid.

And you think the problem is the the British press?

Do you not think the problem just might be a flawed voting system and corrupt officials?
 
Let me get this straight:

The British Press outs corrupt officials.

Fifa bans them.

Fifa officials then blame the press for the failure of England's bid.

And you think the problem is the the British Press?

Do you not think the problem just might be a flawed voting system and corrupt officials?

It's like they are blaming the reporters for letting everyone know that BP spilled some oil in the Gulf of Mexico. I can't figure it out either.
 
well you have little knowledge of "kickback Blatter" then ;)
I do. But I have even greater knowledge of sentimental Blatter. Who brought about world cup rotation to take the world cup to Africa and back to Brazil. Not to mention being instrumental in helping USA win the 1994 world cup over Morroco due to 'breaking new ground ina footballing desert' or whatever he called it at the time. Thanks to that version of him the Qatari are very happy indeed.
 
I do. But I have even greater knowledge of sentimental Blatter. Who brought about world cup rotation to take the world cup to Africa and back to Brazil. Not to mention being instrumental in helping USA win the 1994 world cup over Morroco due to 'breaking new ground ina footballing desert' or whatever he called it at the time. Thanks to that version of him the Qatari are very happy indeed.

Right, 1.4m Qataris are happy whilst how many hundreds of millions are furious?
 
I do. But I have even greater knowledge of sentimental Blatter. Who brought about world cup rotation to take the world cup to Africa and back to Brazil. Not to mention being instrumental in helping USA win the 1994 world cup over Morroco due to 'breaking new ground ina footballing desert' or whatever he called it at the time. Thanks to that version of him the Qatari are very happy indeed.

Blatter sells to the highest bidder...end off.


the old pedo will whore his own grandaughter.
 
Let me get this straight:

The British press outs corrupt officials.

Fifa bans them.

Fifa officials then blame the press for the failure of England's bid.

And you think the problem is the the British press?

Do you not think the problem just might be a flawed voting system and corrupt officials?
The problem is that corruption is considered to be accepatable at FIFA and we are very norty for mentioning it.

We have to be punished.
 
Blatter sells to the highest bidder...end off.


the old pedo will whore his own grandaughter.

Maybe he should make it clear next time, the next World Cup in Europe - held at Chelsea. Abramovich will fund all the bribes himself and have all 64 games played at Stamford Bridge.