I agree , but we can all see where this is going.
How many on here would be shocked to see it played in winter
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I agree , but we can all see where this is going.
How many on here would be shocked to see it played in winter
I also agree with everything you said , but if Blatter wants it played in winter ,who is gong to stop him.
Mind you he wont be around for that long , will he ?
Sky is reporting that Blatter expects the Qatar World Cup to be played in January
That not going to go down well with most people.
Sky Sports | Football | World Cup 2010 | News | Blatter expects winter World Cup
That not going to go down well with most people.
Sky Sports | Football | World Cup 2010 | News | Blatter expects winter World Cup
Part of a quite interesting article in itself but this bit questions the legality of the vote/bid if the WC was to be held in winter.
The major European leagues will cause enough fuss for them not abandon the January WC idea.... hopefully...
Imagine a WC where Prem, La Liga, Bundesliga & Serie A teams refuse to release players...
The major European leagues will cause enough fuss for them not abandon the January WC idea.... hopefully...
Imagine a WC where Prem, La Liga, Bundesliga & Serie A teams refuse to release players...
But they cant refuse to release players can they?
You'd have to shut the leagues down for a couple of months, at least a couple of weeks before and after the tournament, it would be a nightmare. feck off Blatter.
They've 11 years to sort it out. Awkward, but I don't see why the Euro leagues cannot be reorganised for that period.
The Middle East deserves to get the WC at some point, and I think rearranging the leagues for that period is fair enough.
The Middle East deserves to get the WC at some point, and I think rearranging the leagues for that period is fair enough.
Well then can, but there would be suspensions for the players if they did. If I remember correctly it's a 2 game ban for even missing a friendly match, so missing a whole tournament would probably wipe out the rest of the season. There'd be ways around the bans, such as the Premier League playing 'exhibition' matches between teams full of suspended players and taking the results as though they had occurred in real matches, but neither side would want it to get to that stage.
Nevertheless, it's surely something that should have been pointed out BEFORE the vote? The kept on claiming everything will be fine because of the airconditioning. Suddenly they admit it's not enough, but only after Qatar already won the vote?
I hope UEFA and the big leagues don't just accept it. The whole thing was corrupt beyond belief before, now it's just disgusting.
I hope UEFA and the big leagues don't just accept it. The whole thing was corrupt beyond belief before, now it's just disgusting.
Those 4 leagues hold the future of FIFA in their hands.
If those leagues refused to release players there would be no WC and no FIFA (as we know it) left at the end of it all. FIFA know that and so do the leagues.
Sadly/glad Fergie won't be around for that to happen - he'd be furious and forfeit the season as a mark of standing up for right.
I was fine with it going in 2022 after the initial shock, but this is down right cheating. We were told they chose the bid because Qatar could do all this brand new technology and it was going to be wonderful, nothing needs to change because what's in the bid book is what they're going to do.
Now we have two bloody changes: Changing a time honored period of time that the tournament is played when we were told that wouldn't be the case. And now we're hearing reports that FIFA is saying it's OK for Qatar to now invite other Middle Eastern countries to host games? F*CK THAT.
What's the point of a bloody bid book if you're not going to follow it? We might as well have put we're actually going to host ours on the Moon, build fantastic space ships and have nude lady aliens are entertainment - then just change it once we've won it.
And the Middle East can host the tournament in the summer - just not in Qatar. The weather is doable in other countries. I hope some journo somewhere is working day and night to open up a whole corruption case on this travesty.
I was fine with it going in 2022 after the initial shock, but this is down right cheating. We were told they chose the bid because Qatar could do all this brand new technology and it was going to be wonderful, nothing needs to change because what's in the bid book is what they're going to do.
Now we have two bloody changes: Changing a time honored period of time that the tournament is played when we were told that wouldn't be the case. And now we're hearing reports that FIFA is saying it's OK for Qatar to now invite other Middle Eastern countries to host games? F*CK THAT.
What's the point of a bloody bid book if you're not going to follow it? We might as well have put we're actually going to host ours on the Moon, build fantastic space ships and have nude lady aliens are entertainment - then just change it once we've won it.
And the Middle East can host the tournament in the summer - just not in Qatar. The weather is doable in other countries. I hope some journo somewhere is working day and night to open up a whole corruption case on this travesty.
Which countries exactly?
Also is the heat in Madrid or Texas any different to the heat in the middle east? The heat is an issue but millions of people live throught it every year and its not a problem.
Heat in Madrid or Texas is nothing compared to a summer in Qatar
There is a profound difference between living in the heat and playing proper football in the heat. Also, the constant heat in Qatar is higher than in Madrid.
I'd of put it in Saudi Arabia if it had to be Arabic.
Have you ever experienced temperatures approaching 50 degrees? You cannot cross a street without soaking yourself in sweat and wearing yourself out. It would be akin to visiting a sauna.
Saudi Arabia is far too dangerous to host a tournament in with thousands of westerners arriving, not to mention their cultural attitudes toward women.
If football clubs and associations weren't so bloody spineless and consumed by greed they would do well to give FIFA the road and set up a rival association.
It is a shame right now that TV rights deals don't extend that long to say we are already contracted out. However saying that it won't just be the likes of the European Leagues doing what they can to block this, you will have the likes of BskyB as well - they won't take kindly to their sports lineup being decimated during the middle of the season.
Then of course there are the long time sponsors of the Champions League who have been around for years - they won't take kindly to it either.
Then of course there are the long time sponsors of the Champions League who have been around for years - they won't take kindly to it either.
The reason we play the game over the winter (south of Europe) is because the summers are hot and dry -- Portugal case, reaching 40 C. Then people go on vacation and the stadiums would be empty, clubs would lose money.
FIFA changing the rules to suit their poor decision. Huge surprise there.
What a joke
I can't see this happening. The clubs are around Europe won't stand for it.
Ultimately, they pay the players millions a year to play for them, not Fifa.
need more proof Blatter got paid?
For anyone who wants to read my rather lazy opinions on it...
Walking in a Winter Wonder World Cup. | FootballFanCast.com
Walking in a Winter Wonder World Cup. | FootballFanCast.com
Can't someone just kill Blatter?
...and as a bonus that russian scum at Chelsea.
I´m getting sick of international football!!!!!
I wonder if Sepp and Michel get paid by the statement(by other Gulf countries) to help push Qatar towards allowing it.Those mocking Qatar's footballing ability may wish to watch there ongoing match against China, absolute walkover.
China is ranked 79th by FIFA's rankings, though I'm willing to argue their validity with England ranked 6th.
It's the equivalent of Ukraine (France are the direct comparison but France are in a false position as it stands) dominating Spain.
Spain? When did China become the best team in Asia?The 12th placed Asian team beating the 6th placed Asian team is equivalent to:
France beating Croatia (12th v 6th in Uefa).
The 12th placed Asian team beating the 6th placed Asian team is equivalent to:
France beating Croatia (12th v 6th in Uefa).
What has "in Asia" got to do with it, I'm doing a world wide comparison.
26 rankings between 79th (china) and 104th (Qatar)
25 rankings between 1st (Spain) and 26th (Ukraine)
Would you be surprised if Ukraine battered Spain?
Don't you think my comparison makes more sense?
12th placed AFC team v 6th placed AFC team compared to their eqv in Uefa?
Obviously the nearer to the top you get, the difference in quality is more apparent.
By your logic, it's also comparable to Malta (163) beating Kazakhstan (137).
No your comparison makes no sense.
And indeed it is comparable to Malta beating Kazakhstan, because it is an exact equal.
Why not? Comparing the 12th best team v the 6th best team in each confederation* surely makes more sense than just any teams with 26 places between them.
* In the confederation that have lots of teams, ie not S America.
Anyway, we won't really be able to see how Qatar are doing until they come up against one of those 3 in Asia, the rest of them are all pretty dreadful.
Also, if you look at the points system of the Fifa ranking.
There is about 130pts between China and Qatar, but over 1100 between Spain & Ukraine.
There is about 130pts between China and Qatar, but over 1100 between Spain & Ukraine.