Exactly! 68, 99, 08, and not a single one against Borussia Mönchengladbach, Brugge, or Roma either.
RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011
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We could say we won our 1st way before they did, but we don't, because it's irrelevant.
Bringing up the long gone past to cover up the problems and a massive decline in the current team is useless, and, I would have thought, pretty depressing for Liverpool fans when they see how far they've fallen.
aided and abetted by the back pass - they were masters at it
i didnt know where to post it, it's not thread -worthy but it made me chuckle so here it comes:
couldn't happen to a nicer lot
couldn't happen to a nicer lot
You see, that's funny!
Do these RAWK gimps have, like, a general forum where they call each other gayers all the time as well?
I'm sure that they have something for off topic chat, yes. It's just that the CAF is rather infamous for it. This is one of the best places on the whole Internet for talking bollocks, and also for insights from some very clever people.
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson accuses Liverpool's under-performing players for getting Roy Hodgson the sack - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk
That should cheer them up.
Have been saying it for weeks, far too easy too pin all the blame on Hodgson.
Torres for one needs to take a long hard look at himself.
If he suddenly turns it on now Dalglish is in charge it doesn't say a lot for his professionalism.
That should cheer them up.
Have been saying it for weeks, far too easy too pin all the blame on Hodgson.
Torres for one needs to take a long hard look at himself.
If he suddenly turns it on now Dalglish is in charge it doesn't say a lot for his professionalism.
Like the email on the Guardian podcast last week that asked if 'Hodgson was the worst pool manager since Barrymoore'.
They're all saying "Sell Skrtel" today
When Senior Fatty was there, Skrtel (sp?) was the best defender ever.
When Senior Fatty was there, Skrtel (sp?) was the best defender ever.
RAWK blaming refs? Who would have thought it!
They're all saying "Sell Skrtel" today
When Senior Fatty was there, Skrtel (sp?) was the best defender ever.
RAWK blaming refs? Who would have thought it!
not really, he's been subpar since Rafa's last season.
A worse player now then when we first signed him. Don't know what happened to him but he's not good enough anymore.
That's a nice no-win scenario.
Here's a thought - if he suddenly turns it on now, it might be because we'll be playing to his strengths and making use of him as something other than an isolated battering ram.
You think he's been a model professional then?
Sounds like you're setting up the perfect no lose scenario.
Hodgson is to blame, yeah. Just keep saying it enough and it will come true.
Sounds like you're setting up the perfect no lose scenario.
Hodgson is to blame, yeah. Just keep saying it enough and it will come true.
I've always said that Skrtel is vastly overrated by Dippers.
I thought Agger looked decent when he joined your lot though - injuries seem to have plagued his career though.
More bitterness:
For feck sake, give it a rest! There is no conspiracy against Liverpool Football Club!
For feck sake, give it a rest! There is no conspiracy against Liverpool Football Club!
No, I think the players collectively have to shoulder a fair amount of blame. And Torres is no exception. He's looked among the least interested under Hodgson's tenure.
I think it's simplistic to say 'oh, new manager and now he's playing well. how professional'. Tactics, service, confidence and the general motivational qualities of your manager play a huge part and if he does start to play a lot better, I think it will primarily be down to these factors moreso than him simply deciding to turn up for a new manager.
thought of always asking you this. what was your opinion on Roy when he came in.
Do you not see the irony in your statement ? You wanted a coach to be fired because of his incompetence whereas his players weren't doing everything they could to help their team ? How can he be blamed then ?
Let's blame him for his shit tactics, shit signings, shit media utterances and general defeatist and vain approach to the job.
Blaming the players doesn't detract from the fact that there's blame enough to go around for Hodgson to still be woefully inadequate in the job.
When will they realised that 2 managers after, they can't do no shit with the players Rafa left them. It's not about tactics, but personel wise that's as far as you can go.
If he's their messiah, surely his squad can do better than being in a relegation battle, oh yes... if not for their LFC tradition bla bla bla, they're just another relegation team floating around the cut off zone.
If he's their messiah, surely his squad can do better than being in a relegation battle, oh yes... if not for their LFC tradition bla bla bla, they're just another relegation team floating around the cut off zone.
Not my first choice but I thought he would do a job and provide stability. So I was cautiously optimistic.
But I was wrong, he did neither and, by October, I wanted shot of him.
That's a good point. The players were/are shit, but Woy was always out of his depth in all areas there.
That will be one of the good things to come from Dalglish as manager, previously all the blame was Hodgson's, and with Dalglish being untouchable in the minds of most Liverpool fans, the ire will fall right at the players.
We saw a bit of this imo after the defeat to Blackpool
I know this is a LOL @ Scouse thread, but if i'm being serious there's something rotten with the current liverpool squad, so deep that it stinks. It really seems that the players have decided to not give a shit... at all.
They really lost the passion, hunger, or even pride as a football player. No "mentally healthy" footballer will not be fired up after one humiliating defeat and another, last season they have shits load of shit (really shit) performance and I don't see passion or anything in the next match, it seems that nobody cares what happens anymore.
I don't think you can fix that without resorting to radical measure.
Kuyt - The most overrated winger who's second touch is a tackle, seriously i don't know what's so good with a tracking back winger when he's the source of the lost possession in the first place.
Torres/Gerrard/Cara/Skrtel/Cole - Didn't bother giving any shits of any fightback at all, they're just counting their days
Agger/Maxi/Jovanovic/Babel - Overhyped and overrated, they're nothing but a good squad player like our Park and Brown, they do their part over the season but being first teamer they're still lacking
Other than "big names and past glory" their only player worthy of even being fielded are Reina and Lucas. And that's about it.
Agger/Maxi/Jovanovic/Babel - Overhyped and overrated
There's not much hype or overrating about any of those, particularly in that two were free signings and Maxi's the only regular of theh bunch.
There's not much hype or overrating about any of those, particularly in that two were free signings and Maxi's the only regular of theh bunch.
Maxi is decent, should be a squad player but we don't have any better.
Agger is a very good player perpetually plagued by injuries.
Jovanic, Babbel, Skretl - shit.
Cole, Torres, Carra - all looked out of sorts.
Kuyt I think is finished as a player as this level. He's lost too much.
Gerrard has been playing fairly well this season and can't be faulted for lack of effort either, even if he hasn't been a world beater. There are limits to what you can do surrounded by dross. But certainly an improvement on last season.
What we really really need is a top class centreback and a top class central midfielder. That will go a long way towards alleviating the worst of our ilness. And then a top class wide player and a quality squad rotating striker (I'm thinking Crouch level). I think that would put us back on par with the top 4 contenders.
We're still another centreback, quality leftback and a good midfielder and another quality wide player short of a title challenge though.
FSG are gonna have to put out some big money over the next 18 months (including this window) if they want us solidly back in top 4 contention.
Agger is a very good player perpetually plagued by injuries.
Jovanic, Babbel, Skretl - shit.
Cole, Torres, Carra - all looked out of sorts.
Kuyt I think is finished as a player as this level. He's lost too much.
Gerrard has been playing fairly well this season and can't be faulted for lack of effort either, even if he hasn't been a world beater. There are limits to what you can do surrounded by dross. But certainly an improvement on last season.
What we really really need is a top class centreback and a top class central midfielder. That will go a long way towards alleviating the worst of our ilness. And then a top class wide player and a quality squad rotating striker (I'm thinking Crouch level). I think that would put us back on par with the top 4 contenders.
We're still another centreback, quality leftback and a good midfielder and another quality wide player short of a title challenge though.
FSG are gonna have to put out some big money over the next 18 months (including this window) if they want us solidly back in top 4 contention.
He never was.
The Liverpool Way.
Only scousers could spin not trying as being the best thing for the club.
What is the Liverpool WAY, Skausers?
deluded if you think that.
He was never a forward at this level
How would you describe Rafa's character at the helm?
stubborn and contemptuous of the press in general. Perhaps if he had been more vain, he wouldn't have gotten himself embroiled in those spats with Ferguson and the FA.
It became clear over his brief stint here that Hodgson managed us for the acclaim moreso than real ambition. He never fecking stopped talked about his LMA award, how brilliant everyone thought he was, how 'famous' a victory was against no-mark teams and even the day before he was sacked how it would be 'quite the coup' be to beat united. As crazy as it sounds to say about a manager, I think he genuinely rated accomplishment in football based on what people wrote about you in the papers. When we beat Bolton, he underlined what a fantastic victory it was because 'everyone's been singing their praises'. That's how he sees football.
It is also symptomatic of his complete lack of winning mentality. He was like a kid from Kansas who goes to Hollywood to become an actor, gets invited to a few parties with all the celebs and is overjoyed that he has now 'made it in hollywood' since that stuff was all he wanted out of it in the first place.
Get off your high horse, all you were missing was 'Meester Fergusson' and 'EVerton are a small club', and saying 'You'll never walk alone'.
Benitez knew how to play the fans, and you blokes were writing Harry Potter eulogies to the Spaniard.
Benitez knew how to play the fans, and you blokes were writing Harry Potter eulogies to the Spaniard.
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