RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011

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Dalglish has been off the saddle too long. You were lucky to get a point today, your defending was Championship level. Everton were playing triangles around you. LFC are going to have to work incredibly hard and get a bit of luck to finish top half of the table this season
 
Good on the players, I say.

I would have done the same.

You also think Daglish can lose the rest of his games, because he's "earned the right" to do so.

Shouldn't Hodgson, as the manager of your club, have by default "earned the right" to ask your players to play to the best of their ability.

You can just admit your staggering double standards and we'll move right along, if you'd like.
 
... and the disconnect is complete.

you guys are just WUMming by now aren't ya. Time to call it a night.
 
... and the disconnect is complete.

you guys are just WUMming by now aren't ya. Time to call it a night.

Those were Sam's quotes.

"Good on" Hodgson's players for not performing.

Meanwhile, Daglish had "earned the right" to lose every single game.

You may well disagree with him, but that's what the man said.
 
stubborn and contemptuous of the press in general. Perhaps if he had been more vain, he wouldn't have gotten himself embroiled in those spats with Ferguson and the FA.

It became clear over his brief stint here that Hodgson managed us for the acclaim moreso than real ambition. He never fecking stopped talked about his LMA award, how brilliant everyone thought he was, how 'famous' a victory was against no-mark teams and even the day before he was sacked how it would be 'quite the coup' be to beat united. As crazy as it sounds to say about a manager, I think he genuinely rated accomplishment in football based on what people wrote about you in the papers. When we beat Bolton, he underlined what a fantastic victory it was because 'everyone's been singing their praises'. That's how he sees football.

It is also symptomatic of his complete lack of winning mentality. He was like a kid from Kansas who goes to Hollywood to become an actor, gets invited to a few parties with all the celebs and is overjoyed that he has now 'made it in hollywood' since that stuff was all he wanted out of it in the first place.

That's because the supposed "best fans in the world" was baying for his blood since day 1, he never even given proper support from the fans, not to mention financially. Sure some older scouse claims they'll support their manager, give him equal time and chance, but he never have one, which is why he resort to all his mumbo jumbo about being in the business for 30+ years, LMA, etc. It's a stupid move, but it stems from the fans lack of support.
 
Hodgson was playing defensive football because the defense is complete shit and needs massive cover from midfield. That's why he said they played "too offensive" after the Blackburn loss. He was right.

Now Dalglish is playing "Liverpool football" with a team not equipped to do so and the results will be terrible until he follows Woys lead.

It's just not a good squad. The only way they can save themselves from embarrassment is to park the bus.
 
I still maintain their team is not bad enough to be where it is in the league. They basically only have a slim chance of making Europe this season unless they win Europa League which is very doubtful given the strong competition in there, they are closer to relegation than they are to top 4 and playing some of the worst football in a while. With a good manager and a couple of transfers they will be back competing for top 4, I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon given how the club has been managed so far.
 
I still maintain their team is not bad enough to be where it is in the league. They basically only have a slim chance of making Europe this season unless they win Europa League which is very doubtful given the strong competition in there, they are closer to relegation than they are to top 4 and playing some of the worst football in a while. With a good manager and a couple of transfers they will be back competing for top 4, I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon given how the club has been managed so far.

A couple? I'm looking at major overhaul, if they're serious about rebuilding it'll take 10 years before they can aim for top spot at best. Start blooding youngster, make them captain material, dwelve deep in the academy, major overhaul ala United in the 80s

Those players are not there anymore, it takes more than just idea to make them playing again
 
A couple? I'm looking at major overhaul, if they're serious about rebuilding it'll take 10 years before they can aim for top spot at best. Start blooding youngster, make them captain material, dwelve deep in the academy, major overhaul ala United in the 80s

Those players are not there anymore, it takes more than just idea to make them playing again

i agree

they need at least CB, LB, LM, RM, CM and a striker to compeet for thophies
 
They wont get Suarez.

1. He'd cost too much.
2. I doubt he'd move there given their current predicament.

1) Surely depends on how much Henry is willing to spend?
2) He plays at the moment for an inferior club in an inferior league. This move would at least put him in the shop window for bigger clubs. A stepping stone really.
 
1) Surely depends on how much Henry is willing to spend?
2) He plays at the moment for an inferior club in an inferior league. This move would at least put him in the shop window for bigger clubs. A stepping stone really.

If it's a shop window, then it's a sideways step? And unless he has guarantees they will invest further, he might not score as many goals and his star may wane in a struggling team.
 
1) Surely depends on how much Henry is willing to spend?
2) He plays at the moment for an inferior club in an inferior league. This move would at least put him in the shop window for bigger clubs. A stepping stone really.

You'd think Ajax would let him go for cheap in a world where Darren Bent costs 24m ? Their prize asset. I doubt Mr.Henry would be willing to spend anything in upwards of 20m, which wont cut it imo. The deal could have materialized with Babel moving in the opposite direction but as of now I dont see it.

There are already a lot of big clubs monitoring him, I dont think it would make much of a difference to his big club prospects. If anything, those chances might detoriate with moving to liverpool and playing the modern day "liverpool way" which as we all know is a dire brand of football played by some very very mediocore players.
 
If it's a shop window, then it's a sideways step? And unless he has guarantees they will invest further, he might not score as many goals and his star may wane in a struggling team.

It's sort of a sideways step, but I think Liverpool is still a step up from Ajax.

Your other point is very true, but I imagine he will be given assurances before joining about further investment into the team - I mean, it's the kind of thing you'd probably ask.
 
It's sort of a sideways step, but I think Liverpool is still a step up from Ajax.

Your other point is very true, but I imagine he will be given assurances before joining about further investment into the team - I mean, it's the kind of thing you'd probably ask.
The current team might be a bit shite, but Liverpool is still a massive club and shouldn't have any problems attracting players.
 
The current team might be a bit shite, but Liverpool is still a massive club and shouldn't have any problems attracting players.

I think we do. That said, we should be able to attract some quality players.

And apparently, Suarez would much rather play for us than spurs, so it's not like our standing has disappeared.
 
The current team might be a bit shite, but Liverpool is still a massive club and shouldn't have any problems attracting players.

I think they'll have lots of difficulty attracting decent players. Many of the players who have gone there seem to have had their reputation tarnished - there are hardly huge bids flying in for Torres.
 
The current team might be a bit shite, but Liverpool is still a massive club and shouldn't have any problems attracting players.

A name means very little when you have no finances, poor infrastructure and a fairly poor managerial setup/turnover. Putting it this way, unless they get City money, Liverpool will become a mid table team.
 
This thread used to be funny, containing quotes of spasticity from the forum mentioned in the title. Now it's just yet another place where Liverpool's state of affairs are discussed.
 
This thread used to be funny, containing quotes of spasticity from the forum mentioned in the title. Now it's just yet another place where Liverpool's state of affairs are discussed.

At last we agree on something...:lol:

Can't all these Liverpool topics be discussed in existing threads?

Surely there must have been some nonsense posted following their famous home draw over Everton?

Some record 'Kin Kenny's got, 2 losses and a draw...the Messiah has arrived...
 
They seem to hate Gerrard and Carragher on there purely because it's rumoured they had a hand in Benítez leaving.
 
Their logic is baffling. Gerrard had a far bigger hand in their silverware why Benitez was in charge then the fat man himself. He kept them in the games while Benitez did his best to lose them.

That, in fairness, isn't true at all. Gerrard's good form under Benitez was no coincidence - it was he who created Gerrard's best position.
 
There are not a huge amount of players that have come through the academy, he's simply bought in young players that can do the job. It's not as if Fabregas has been there since he was 12.

Yes but youth academies don't just start 8 or what ever ridiculous age. Getting players in at 17/18 and 19 are still youth products. Its the key point of development where as you're either hit or miss. Wenger has managed to bring out the best in some young players. Again, Liverpool or London... I know which i'd rather.
 
Just stop and think before you start trying to talk about football.

Spams, don't you understand? The genius that is Benitez not only invented the "defensive striker", but he also created the position of attacking midfielder who plays directly behind a single striker.

What a tic-tactical genius!
 
Spams, don't you understand? The genius that is Benitez not only invented the "defensive striker", but he also created the position of attacking midfielder who plays directly behind a single striker.

What a tic-tactical genius!

He also must have seen, with the benefit of foresight, that we already had 2 really good midfielders and could probably pair two top class players upfront together with a half decent result - the genius of inventing an entirely new position was a bonus.
 
He also must have seen, with the benefit of foresight, that we already had 2 really good midfielders and could probably pair two top class players upfront together with a half decent result - the genius of inventing an entirely new position was a bonus.


Inspired stuff. We are lucky to be living in the era of Benitez.

How we laughed, how we cried, how our game was changed by this tic-tactical genius.
 
That, in fairness, isn't true at all. Gerrard's good form under Benitez was no coincidence - it was he who created Gerrard's best position.

:lol:
 
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