Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid

If he does go, I hope the Spuds fleece Chelsea for all they're worth.
 
I'll be surprised if Levy let's him go for less than 37/38 million - Andy Carroll/Torres in mind
 
Carrol is 22. Say he retired when he is 34. 12 years. Roughly £3m a year.

Henderson is 20. So over 14 years yuo are looking at £1.5m a year roughly.

Modric will be 26 soon so over 8 years considering that player I would say about £4m a year ergo £32m.
 
Commadus said:
Carrol is 22. Say he retired when he is 34. 12 years. Roughly £3m a year.

Henderson is 20. So over 14 years yuo are looking at £1.5m a year roughly.

Modric will be 26 soon so over 8 years considering that player I would say about £4m a year ergo £32m.
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Bebe is 20. He's got 15 years. 4 million a year. Worth £60m.
 
Harry Redknap on Modric on Five Live:

"The chairman makes the decision on sale of players. He's said no and cant go back on that now."

"Chelsea aren't only club in for Luka Modric."
 
Commadus said:
Carrol is 22. Say he retired when he is 34. 12 years. Roughly £3m a year.

Henderson is 20. So over 14 years yuo are looking at £1.5m a year roughly.

Modric will be 26 soon so over 8 years considering that player I would say about £4m a year ergo £32m.
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That's a retarded logic.

Actually I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
 
Commadus said:
Carrol is 22. Say he retired when he is 34. 12 years. Roughly £3m a year.

Henderson is 20. So over 14 years yuo are looking at £1.5m a year roughly.

Modric will be 26 soon so over 8 years considering that player I would say about £4m a year ergo £32m.
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:wenger: don't know where you're getting at, but valuation is/should be based on discounted future incoming cashflows, not future expenses... Other than that, the market for footballplayers (due to the difficulty to allocate the clubs future incoming cashflows to a single player) is just plain and simple supply&demand, most of the time resulting in paying over the odds because club financial 'experts' have no clue and no voting rights in these matters, which are subject more to manager & chairman ego than to business rationale...
 
KM said:
That's a retarded logic.

Actually I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
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You are fecking retarded. They discount the players cost over the lifetime of the player. Taking 34 as an average age a player will retired you can spread the cost of the player for accounting purposes.
 
The problem for the United supporters, especially the less mature among us, will be that if Modric goes to Chelsea does it mean that we were out muscled again financially and what will that mean for the other targets we are fighting for? I think if he signs for Chelsea before we do anything substantial in the market it will be panic on here!
 
I couldn't bother reading through the last 15 pages. Do we have a chance of signing him or does it look like he's Chelsea bound?
 
'Redknapp told talkSPORT: "It's a happy thing to have a player like Luka Modric, who has suddenly turned into a £50million, £40million player and everyone wants him.

"We're lucky we've got him and we aren't selling him, that's what the chairman says and that's good enough for me.

"The chairman has made a statement. He can't backtrack on that. He means that - I know he means that. Luka's not going.

"Daniel has made that statement - he can't come out and suddenly sell him. Everyone will go, 'What's the use of listening to what he says?' He can't sell him. He's said he's not going to sell him and that's good enough for me.

"Daniel and Joe Lewis own the club. They're not selling Luka - end of story, as far as I'm concerned.

"It's not easy to keep a player who's not happy but the chairman has said we're not going to sell him so we've got to stand by that now. He can't be saying that and then we sell him.

"If we sell Luka Modric where are we going as a football club? We'll have to accept then that we're a middle-of-the-table team that will finish in the top half next season and really that's not what the chairman wants, it's not what I want. It's not, most importantly, what the fans want.

"You've got to keep your best players. I don't see Liverpool wanting to sell Steven Gerrard or Chelsea wanting to sell Frank Lampard, John Terry or any of their top players. Arsenal don't want to sell [Samir] Nasri so you've got to keep your best players if you want to be successful.

"He's such a great player for us we just don't want to lose him. He's a great guy, top-class boy and obviously his head's been turned a little bit by the fact that he's wanted by all these clubs and he could probably go and get a fantastic contract.

"It's difficult but we certainly don't want to lose him. Daniel's made the statement and I'm sure he's determined to stand by what he's said."'
 
Franq said:
:wenger: don't know where you're getting at, but valuation is/should be based on discounted future incoming cashflows, not future expenses... Other than that, the market for footballplayers (due to the difficulty to allocate the clubs future incoming cashflows to a single player) is just plain and simple supply&demand, most of the time resulting in paying over the odds because club financial 'experts' have no clue and no voting rights in these matters, which are subject more to manager & chairman ego than to business rationale...
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The players have a book value. carrol was £1m on Newcastles books. I understand about discouting future cashflows and that but you cant attribute x amount of income to player y but you can attribue their cost to player y.

It's nothing other than some way of looking at the cost of a player another way.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
If he does go, I hope the Spuds fleece Chelsea for all they're worth.
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Why? It's not like we have a set budget where spending more wipl mean less to spend on someone else. All us spending more will mean is that Spurs have more cash to replace Modric with.
 
I would be suprised if Spurs held onto him. I don't think they have ever kept hold of a player that a club has full bloodedly come in for in recent times.
 
Commadus said:
The players have a book value. carrol was £1m on Newcastles books. I understand about discouting future cashflows and that but you cant attribute x amount of income to player y but you can attribue their cost to player y.

It's nothing other than some way of looking at the cost of a player another way.
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valuation (future) is not the same as accounting (past):

A) when a company (club) decides to invest in a specific asset (a footballplayer) it needs to determine whether their investment will generate more future income than the costs associated with the investment (otherwise they would be losing money for nothing)

B) bookvalue is still based on historical cost and not future costs. If a club were to capitalize a player upon purchase, its 'bookvalue' would be transfer costs only, which will generally be written off on a straightline basis. (depreciation on capitalized transfer costs + player annual salary = true annual costs of a player)
 
modric has put spurs in a weaker position by going public about wanting to leave - i think spurs would be mad to sell him for less than 35 - he was Fergie's player of the year last year

I cant imagine us not making an inquiry given Fergie's opinion on him

and its daft to value players purely on age - modric is 25 and already a brilliant midfielder

all carroll has achieved is a decent season in the premier league and potential

I remember Marcus Stewart of Ipswich having a much better season a few years back - what happened him
 
SteveJ said:
'Redknapp told talkSPORT: "It's a happy thing to have a player like Luka Modric, who has suddenly turned into a £50million, £40million player and everyone wants him.

"We're lucky we've got him and we aren't selling him, that's what the chairman says and that's good enough for me.

"The chairman has made a statement. He can't backtrack on that. He means that - I know he means that. Luka's not going.

"Daniel has made that statement - he can't come out and suddenly sell him. Everyone will go, 'What's the use of listening to what he says?' He can't sell him. He's said he's not going to sell him and that's good enough for me.

"Daniel and Joe Lewis own the club. They're not selling Luka - end of story, as far as I'm concerned.

"It's not easy to keep a player who's not happy but the chairman has said we're not going to sell him so we've got to stand by that now. He can't be saying that and then we sell him.

"If we sell Luka Modric where are we going as a football club? We'll have to accept then that we're a middle-of-the-table team that will finish in the top half next season and really that's not what the chairman wants, it's not what I want. It's not, most importantly, what the fans want.

"You've got to keep your best players. I don't see Liverpool wanting to sell Steven Gerrard or Chelsea wanting to sell Frank Lampard, John Terry or any of their top players. Arsenal don't want to sell [Samir] Nasri so you've got to keep your best players if you want to be successful.

"He's such a great player for us we just don't want to lose him. He's a great guy, top-class boy and obviously his head's been turned a little bit by the fact that he's wanted by all these clubs and he could probably go and get a fantastic contract.

"It's difficult but we certainly don't want to lose him. Daniel's made the statement and I'm sure he's determined to stand by what he's said."'
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Harry putting a lot of pressure on Levy.
 
He said the EXACT same thing before Berbatov :lol: Obviously a slightly different scenario as Berbs/Ramos conspired to make it happen, but still.
 
£25 million is a very serious offer for a player who wants to leave and may well put in a transfer request when it comes to it.

There's a reason Chelsea started at 25 million and its because he's not worth 35. If City came in for him and he was interested in listening to them, they might become desperate enough to pay something like that. Thats probably what Spurs are hoping for
 
Franq said:
valuation (future) is not the same as accounting (past):

A) when a company (club) decides to invest in a specific asset (a footballplayer) it needs to determine whether their investment will generate more future income than the costs associated with the investment (otherwise they would be losing money for nothing)

B) bookvalue is still based on historical cost and not future costs. If a club were to capitalize a player upon purchase, its 'bookvalue' would be transfer costs only, which will generally be written off on a straightline basis. (depreciation on capitalized transfer costs + player annual salary = true annual costs of a player)
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Point A is hard to determine for footballers.
My point is looking at the transfer cost only and using straight line - which is the easiest to do.

If you want to factor in wages then I will wait to see what Modric is going to be paid. Carrol us on £80k a week and not sure what Henderson signed for.

Yes I am only looking at it from one perspective of cost and not all of the costs just the transfer value as even if you add in wages - don't players also get signing on bonuses.

The price Modric will go for will not be based on some calculation more its what Chelsea will ultimately pay for him but they will consider just how many years they can get out of him.
 
Someone clarify this.

If a player puts in a transfer request he loses some form of bonus?

If he doesn't put in a transfer request then what does he gain?

If Modric has come out with his statement then he should back it up by putting in a transfer request.
 
Redknapp on Radio Five this morning


Manager Harry Redknapp has urged Tottenham to show wantaway midfielder Luka Modric that he can realise his dreams with the north London club.

The 25-year-old Croatia international stunned Spurs supporters by declaring he wants to leave White Hart Lane, and will have enraged some by announcing Chelsea as his preferred destination.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy responded by ordering the Blues to drop their pursuit of the player, insisting he was not for sale "at any price" to any club.

Redknapp now wants Tottenham to bolster their own squad and prove to Modric he does not need to join "a bigger club" to win silverware.

"I think we have to show him our ambition, which we will do," Redknapp told BBC Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme.

"If we can add one or two good players to our squad there's no reason we can't have another great season.

"So Tottenham could be a great club for him to stay with for the next few years. That's what we're hoping for."

Modric's comments came days after Tottenham rejected a £22million offer from Chelsea - a bid ridiculed by Redknapp - and the Spurs boss confirmed on Sunday that other clubs had also expressed interest.

"Chelsea are not the only club that have been in for him," he said. "There have been other clubs - top, top clubs.

"But if Tottenham are looking to go anywhere we can't be selling Luka. We have to do something to keep him at the club.

"We can't afford to sell Luka Modric if we want to be a successful club."

He added: "He's a fantastic lad. You'll never meet a better lad than Luka. I suppose he's seen a massive contract and the chance to win the Premier League and play in the Champions League and that's what he wanted.

"But we want that as well. We want to get back in the Champions League and we need him to help us do that.

"If Daniel's saying no he really can't be seen to be going back on that now. He's made a very strong statement. I wouldn't see Daniel backtracking on that at any price."

Modric has reportedly also attracted the attention of Manchester City and Manchester United, but Chelsea would appear to be the player's preferred destination as he would like to remain in the capital.

Redknapp admitted the bid from Chelsea had been difficult to comprehend given they are still without a manager following the sacking of Carlo Ancelotti last month.

"It is very, very strange and difficult to understand," he said. "But this has been going on for quite a while, not just this week. It's been going on for the last three or four weeks, since Carlo Ancelotti lost his job.

"Somebody else at Chelsea is choosing the players - not the new manager."

Jermain Defoe has also been linked with a move away from White Hart Lane - with some suggestions of a shock switch to rivals Arsenal.

"I didn't see that," Redknapp said of such speculation. "I couldn't see that one happening."
 
At the end of the day, after whats been said by Redknapp and Levy if they sell Modric shits gonna go down
 
Pretty sure they said a lot worse during the Berbatov and Keane transfers. Threatening to submit dossiers detailing tapping up and whatnot. Then they sold both players with small "Apology fees" on the top of it
 
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