if they keep selling they'd risk losing Redknapp. I think 'arry is trying to hold levy to his word by repeating what he said, which ignoring the same was said about Berbatov not going. I'm not sure he's going anywhere. If he does, I'm not sure what that means for Spurs
Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid
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If Chelsea slammed in a £40m offer at this stage and the player submitted a transfer request, they might just rock the boat enough to make it happen. This would give Harry a war chest and time to find a replacement.
If they dither around until the last day (Berbatov style), Harry will walk.... assuming he isn't HMP by the end of the summer.
If they dither around until the last day (Berbatov style), Harry will walk.... assuming he isn't HMP by the end of the summer.
I think Spurs are in a bit of trouble.
Harry's comments suggest he wants the club to go out and spend big on players to show Modric the club has big ambition and that they can be as good as the likes of City and Chelsea. But he talks about a big contract offer being put in front of Modric and that being what he wants.
So if Modric was to stay surely he'd want just as big a contract at Spurs. And without champions league money are they likely to be able to give Modric a big wages bump and sign top quality players too? No.
They'll be lucky to hold on to their best players this summer and will most likely have to throw money at them to do it. But they are unlikely to stay without making a couple of big big signings as well
Harry's comments suggest he wants the club to go out and spend big on players to show Modric the club has big ambition and that they can be as good as the likes of City and Chelsea. But he talks about a big contract offer being put in front of Modric and that being what he wants.
So if Modric was to stay surely he'd want just as big a contract at Spurs. And without champions league money are they likely to be able to give Modric a big wages bump and sign top quality players too? No.
They'll be lucky to hold on to their best players this summer and will most likely have to throw money at them to do it. But they are unlikely to stay without making a couple of big big signings as well
He makes a good point about who is calling the shots about Chelseas transfer targets maybe Roman is going to pick the team officially this year!
As a manager you want to keep your best players. Harry will be judged on results not Levy. The chairman is more interested in financials.
Yeah, but back then Spurs hadn't just been in the Champions League. Redknapp is serious about trying to maintain their status as one of the top clubs and feels that letting Modric go would unravel everything. The Berba and Keane sale/not selling didn't have as big implications on the future intentions of the club.
It's just not a simple matter of throwing money at Modric. Then other players such as Bale will look for parity.
Harry has cleverly boxed in Levy.
It did. They sold their best 2 players who had carried them that season
They just did quite well using the money they got in and that took them to the next level
Selling Modric for £30 million and spending it on 2 more talents like when they signed him would be exactly the same. But they need to once again use the money quite well
And having just played in the champions league, but then not qualifying last season, is even more of a reason for players to want to leave.
So yes then.
When the big offers come in he'll want a pay rise whether Modric leaves or not.
Hold on a minute. How the feck do you know that?
Remember the Rooney saga. Didn't we read a statement from from one unhappy player who wanted to leave the club. An what was the respond from Sir Alex and the club? And what was the respond from the posters on RedCafé?
Why should Levy and Lewis be judged differently???
Fair play to Levy to make such a bold statement.
Not so. Levy has never issued a statement as strong as:
"... none of our key players will be sold this summer..... In respect of Luka Modric, we are not prepared to sell, at any price, to Chelsea Football Club or any other club. ... we shall not enter into any negotiations whatsoever, with any Club regarding Luka. ... We now consider this matter closed."
Redknapp calling up the media for a chat? Why I never.I can't remember any manager who whores himself to the emdia the way Redknapp does. It's uncanny.
He will be in for a great surprise if he thinks stroking the collective knob of the British press for so long will help if he should ever get the coveted England job.
I see he has now taken to parodying himself.
What has the Rooney saga got to do with this? If you look at the statements from SAF they were very different from the Spurs 'he's not for sale' etc.
Rooney would have been sold if SAF and the owners didn't convince him to stay. There's no point keeping an unhappy player, it's unsettling to the club and the dressing room.
All this bollocks about pride etc is rubbish. Tottenham can't offer him Champions League football this season and there's no guarantee in the next few seasons either. He's approaching his peak as a player and who would blame him for looking to move on?
Tottenham have good bargaining power with the length of the contract and with the transfer fee they'll receive they'll be able to strengthen the squad and put in a better challenge next year.
Yup. For all of Redknapp's blathering on about what a t'rific lad Modric is, if he forces the issue he will go.
He should keep his mouth shut when it comes to other team's affairs whatever his opinion may be.
Redknapp is the worst culprit when it comes to that.
why is it a good point? Why should Tottenham's manager bother to comment on how Chelsea choose to structure themselves?
It's not like Ancelotti was in charge of transfers when he was the manager, so there is nothing new here really.
Exactly, but Harry's attitude is 'if we give up now and let all the players go we'll slip back into mid-table mediocrity, but we need to keep our players and sign a few more top class players to get back in there as soon as possible'.
If he lets Modric go, it sends out all the wrong signals. It wouldn't surprise me if Van Der Vaart and Bale then decide they want to leave. Also, it becomes far less likely top players would want to join.
I doubt that for 40 mill or whatever they'll get for Modric, Harry would be able to go out and get two players in that will get them to Champions League again. Especially in this market, and given that the type of players he'd need to sign (top class players) would be deterred by the signals given out by the Modric sale.
You are looking at this from Modric's perspective. And you laugh about pride and think it's rubbish. Future will tell my friend. I wouldn't dismiss Tottenham's ambitions in this moment.
No, if you actually read it I addressed both sides.
I never dismissed Tottenham's ambitions, but players moving is a fact of the game. We lost Ronaldo and have arguably become a better side since, the same could happen to Spurs if they invest wisely. Assuming they already have a reasonable transfer fund, adding 30-40m would be a real sign of intent and they would be able to sort out their weaknesses from last year (right mid, goalkeeper, centre forward) as well as find an adequate replacement for Modric.
Pride doesn't come into it, or at least it shouldn't, if you are a businessman. Hubris is the downfall of many.
Spurs don't need to sell Modric in order to add "30-40m" to their transfer budget. They can easily gain this much - and possibly more - from selling various fringe players, such as:
O'Hara (already gone for c.£5m)
Bentley
Keane
Naughton
Hutton
Dos Santos
Kranjcar
In addition, they have gained record income this year - mainly due to the CL and much improved sponsorship deals.
As I've already said, if Levy wished to sanction it Spurs could easily afford to spend 30m+ on a single player this window. Selling Modric is not part of this equation.
we'd give you back carrick?...
They should flog him and reinvest. No point having a 40m player when your squad is like Spurs - i.e. Decent but with lots of gaps and well of a CL place.
There wage bill would need to explode if they want to keep a CL quality squad.
There wage bill would need to explode if they want to keep a CL quality squad.
I agree with your main point but football isn't always logical. T'ham isn't in the same position as United. We are one of the best teams in the world and our ambition is to hold on to this position. When Ronaldo left us we still had a great squad who only needed a few adjustments to be competitive.
For a team like Spurs it's different. They need to hold on to their star players to have a chance to attract other very good players to join them. Look at City and you see how difficult it is to attract the very best.
Modric is one of the best midfielders in the EPL. He's only 25 years old and have at least 6-7 years ahead of him at the highest level. They also have Bale. If they can attract let's say two or three more stars over the next two seasons they have a pretty good team. Probably good enough to challenge for a CL place.
If they loose Modric then they have to start all over again. And what about Bale. What would he think?
Sometimes you have to make a statement. A intention of ambitions. To players, supporters, media and future transfers.
This is what Daniel Levy is doing. With Joe Lewis approval. And it's now when pride come in to the equation. These are big wealthy boys with pride and ambitions. Tottenham isn't their main business. Football is a hobby for them.
So wait and see. This is not over yet.
You don't get him for 12 years though, you get him for 4 or 5 when they sign the contract. When they sign their next contract the fact there's no transfer fee is taken into account so you have to pay more.
Agree. This is a retarded logic.
1st there's salary involved, so that 1.5m,3m a year is bollocks. Next - buying a 20 years lad for 20m pounds doesn't give you any guarantee that he'll be worth even the same amount after an year or two. It depends on injuries, development, whether he'll fit or not etc.
In Carroll and Henderson cases you're looking at big gambles, as they have had 1 good season behind their back before being bought for crazy figures.
Modric maybe 26, but he's established player in a top English club and established at national level. You know what you get for your money. Of course there's still a risk whether he'll fit or not, but it it significantly lower than the aforementioned...
I don't really see how losing Modric is more important then us losing Ronaldo, who was at that time probably the best player in the world and involved in 50+ of our goals.
You are making it sound as if losing Modric will suddenly make Spurs a mid table side which is ludicrous. They have a decent squad, that needs improving. Perhaps they wouldn't have been in this situation if Lewis and Levy had supported Redknapp more in the summer, rather then panicking and trying to obtain a top striker in the January window.
The statement of intent really should be 'if you don't want to play for us, then leave, the club is bigger then one player and will move on to better things'. The club never wins in the situation Levy has put them in, players have the power.
If it ends up like the Berbatov saga, he'll end up hurting the club as this will run all summer, the player will leave right at the end of the deadline with no time to find a replacement.
we'll get Modric after we offer them cash plus Berba.
If Modric wants out as desperately as it appears he does he'll leave, end of the day you cant have a seriously unhappy player on your hands who dosnt want to be there its just a recipe for trouble, Levy can say what he likes if Modric is determined to make it happen spurs have little choice.
They've always been a selling club anyway so all this guff about "if we sell luka what does that make us", it makes you nothing new to what youve been for decades arry.
They've always been a selling club anyway so all this guff about "if we sell luka what does that make us", it makes you nothing new to what youve been for decades arry.
I swear i started that rumour last week when i suggested it on here!Lazy journalism though, anyone could come up with that lets face it i did.
Lazy journalism though, anyone could come up with that lets face it i did.
its all speculation mate.
but imo, the fact Berba has not been 'offered' a new contract or at least has not signed one tells me he won't be here next season. It may be Spurs or elsewhere.
Also Wellbeck has been promised a lot of opportunities.
Rooney, Chicho, Owen and....?
Job definitions.
Why would Modric prefer a move to Chavski rather than us?
I would have thought he has a better chance of silverware with us, especially in Europe...
I would have thought he has a better chance of silverware with us, especially in Europe...
Because we're not in London?
Money rules.
Maybe his wife prefers 'sunny' london to 'rainy' manchester
Manchester is 'rainy' compared to London, the South East is dry relative to the rest of the country.
If he wants to live in the Home Counties then good luck to him.
I don't tend to be too definitive on these things as football can always surprise you, but I am extremely confident that this will never happen!